The Vatican stood in Silence while seeg the children of Yisarel being murdered trown into the furnace while their HEART STILL BEATING. This is the SIN of the Vatican Catholics of Europe and the Catholic World ! For the sins you commit agaist G-d you can seek forgiveness from G-d BUT for the sins you commit against the jewish people, only the Jews can forgive.Those died in the Holocaust are not there to forgive you any more. Live and be judged by the sins of Silence !

Obviously, the foxes at the VAtican are VEY EMBARASSED by the continuous request to open the Papal Archives to NON-VATICAN HISTORIANS for the period 1939-1945. The MONEY given PERSONALLY SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THE NAZI MOVEMENT by Pacelli to Hitler, i"s, in the early 20's when he was Apostolic Nunzio in Germany. “That the Vatican encouraged such investments and even donated money to Hitler himself cannot be denied. A German nun, Sister Pascalina, was present at the creation. In the early 1920’s, she was the housekeeper for Archbishop of the Vatican-Nazi connection. Eugenio Pacelli, then the papal nuncio in Munich. Sister Pascalina vividly recalls receiving Adolf Hitler late one night and watching the archbishop give Hitler a large amount of Church money.” “Sister Pascalina had absolutely no motive to discredit Archbishop Pacelli. She was his greatest admirer and remained his faithful servant all her life, even after he became Pope Pius XII. Her story has the ring of truth, all the more powerful because it admits the worst blunder of Pacelli’s career. It was Pacelli who later convinced the Vatican to invest millions of dollars in the rising German economy, money from the Vatican’s land settlement with Mussolini that ended the Pope’s claim of sovereignty over territory outside the walls of Vatican City. It was Pacelli who negotiated the Concordat with Hitler’s Germany and then had to deal with the consequences of his own mistakes when he became Pope on the eve of World War II. . . .” (From: The Secret War Against the Jews: How Western Espionage Betrayed the Jewish People; John Loftus and Mark Aarons; Copyright 1994 [HC]; St. Martin’s Press; ISBN 0-312-11057-X; pp. 83-84.)

Deadblamed, somebody stick to their guns!!!! Franco's not showing up, because he doesn't like facts will look much worse on him and the Vatican than it will on Israel. I can see the headline in Iran, already: "Israel lied to Rome about the holocaust." Stop trying to please all of the people all of the time and show some passion for what you know to be true.

MANNER; ONLY SHOULD THEY LOOK LIKE THEY ARE MORAL & ETHICAL AND WAX INDIGNANT WHEN THEIR IMMORAL & UNETHICAL WAYS ARE CHALLENGED. I LOST SO MANY RELATIVES, WE DON'T EVEN KNOW THEIR NAMES. AT THE TIME OF THE COMMON ERA, JEWS WERE 10% OF THE POPULATION OF THE WORLD, IT WAS THE ECONOMIC OPPRESSION BY THE CHRISTIANS, AS THEY PREVENTED US FROM SHARING IN THE ECONOMY AND THEIR MURDEROUS WAYS THAT DIMINISHED US. I WONDER IF CHRISTIANS WILL EVER GROW UP AND CHANGE. MOSHE

In direct contravention of papal edicts to do nothing for the Jews. Apparently, humanity is a far stronger force than religious dictation.

The Arabs preach that Jews are sub-humans to be murdered - in the present day - with anti-semitic caricatures and indoctrination of their children. The world currently has no will to risk its interests in the defence of Jews. How can the Jews be so sensitive to the wrongs of the dead, while completely oblivious to the threat posed by the living.

The whole behaviour of the Vatican is a scandal- The onus in upon them to divulge ALL documents and materials re Pius XII- and then the matter of his behaviour will be fully examined. As the matter stands, the pope at the time of the Holocaust unfortunately did not do anything near what could be expected of a moral person & religious leader- Catholics to-day should be interested that his behaviour should be examined- and oppose this undignified cover-up that the Vastican seems to be interested in. That the Vatican should have even thought of boycoting the Yad VaShem memorial meeting is sheer HUTZPAH.

And were are the Israeli's while the siege of Gaza and the West Bank is in force?

It is high time to stop treating this "church" as if it were a sovereign nation. It is not a nation, does not represent a people,. is unelected and represents a religion only. It's existence has historical roots, but these have evaporated in the mists of time. Its "government" legislates no enforceable laws (a crucial component of sovereignty) and has no secular meaning.

- and his church - is now very KNOWN! # 7: "completely oblivious to the threat posed by the living"?? It's the world that is 'oblivious' to the indifference - that is precisely why we, the Jews, are "so sensitive to the wrongs of the dead" - NEVER AGAIN! Observer, you observe! (We are acutely aware that "The Arabs preach that Jews are sub-humans to be murdered - in the present day - with anti-Semitic caricatures and indoctrination of their children.'

http://www.amazon.com/Hitlers-Pope-Secret-History-Pius/dp/0670886939 http://www.randomhouse.com/vintage/read/kidnapping/

Jewish children (grandparents or great-grandparents by now, if alive) from the churches or at least notify the families or the Jews of their whereabouts.

By drawing attention to the issue at a time when they are trying to turn that pope into a saint, the situation totally backfired on the Vatican. Now they are against the wall having to explain once again the unexcusable. Keep up the pressure for the release of those secret documents. Never forgive, never forget!

Christians have done more for judaism than the jews have done for themselves. The Vatican itself was crammed with jews seeking safety during world war II. Why do the jews always use Christianity as their skapegoat of concenience?

SOME PEOPLE HAVE THE GAUL TO ACCUSE THE JEWS EVEN ABOUT OUR OWN DESTRUCTION AND DEFEND THE INDEFENSIBLE. The Number of Jews saved by Vatican is lower, much lower than the number of German Nazis, Italian and Belgian Fascists, Croatian Ustashi, hidden in and sent by the Vatican to Latin America. There was not only the silence of Pius XII, but also the large activity of Montini (Paulus VI), and a large number of catholic priests, bishops and archbishops (called RAT LINE network) to SAVE NAZIS AFTER THE WAR. Check: La otra Odessa - Uki Goni - Ed Paidos (Spanish) The real Odessa - English version

Some people have the hypocricy to say that Xtians did more FOR the Jews than Jews themselves. May be they should take into consideration that Europe, the heart of Xtianity, is the BIGGEST JEWISH CEMETARY ON EARTH, where MILLIONS of Jews were murdered since the beginning of Xtianity. Except for the extermination camps, there is NOT EVEN ONE ANTI JEWISH LAW adopted by the nazis that does not have a precedent in Canon Law! Catholics murdered Jews for canturies, and once the Protestant Reform came into being, Luther murdered and called for the murder of Jews too. Jews did not HUNT Jews in VIII Century France, in XIth Century Germany, in XII Century England, in XV Century Spain, etc., etc. Xtians did!

Christians were to blame for not speaking up. As a Chrisitian it is every Christians responsibility to speak out when his conscience says so. It is even worse when someone of the Pope's influence does not speak out. As a Christian it is my job to seek G-d's will and look forward to His promises to the Jews. Don't let your religious pride get in the way of condeming those who supposedly speak for Christians when they are wrong. Accept it, apologize, never forget it and teach our children how terrible that sin was.

Allowing the enthusiastically appeasing Olmert, Peretz and Livni to run your country for so long, allowing Peace Now to betray your birthright land for so long, allowing your human rights group to advertise your mistakes to the world for so long, the Jews have learnt nothing from history.

The Crusades and Inquisition are something you did TO the Jews, not FOR us. Setting the climate for pogroms and the Holocaust were done TO the Jews, not FOR us. Jeff, get real!

It's Interesting from here to watch as the townships and cities of the countries of the Continent begin to overflow with the sure and steady dirge of Islam's flow, as it seeps it's way throughout. History is being written over there. Now. Are you 'learning'? What have we not learned? Whereas our leaders are lame, and the self-hating, lefty do-gooders make more noise then ever (what the are good at), it has naught to do with 'not learning', after all, the IDF/IAF have 'learned' to defend their state in a manner revered and respected by all the Eurabian armies put together. Observe, Observer; watch this space: Never Again! The Jews are a resiliant and timeless lot. You havent been watching, Observer. They've tried to remove us from Earth many times, but we are here still. (Are you 'they'?)

frustrated to see it sleep-walking into its own destruction.

You probably don't [ or not want to ] know that Israel is a DEMOCRACY , that all those Olmert , Peretz and Livni have been democratically elected . You want Israel to become a fascist dictature , by not letting Human rights groups tell the [ eventual ] wrongdoings ? You probably did'nt learn anything from your history , you forget your hitlers , mussolinis , franco and salazars ! then there were no human rights groups , and there were also no Human rights . And all this without a condemnation of the highest catholic authority ?

christians have done more for Judaism than Jews themselve , you wrote . You are right , there were Jews hidden at the vatican , but thats all . No word of condemnation of the known holocaust . What have christians done for Jews ? I'll tell you : murdered millions of them ! and not only during the Holocaust . On their way to Jerusalem the crusaders murdered Jews . During the inquisition in Spain , in name of the holy church , the same , and so on during History . To much to tell . What have Jews done for themselve ? Look only at the State of Israel , and the realisations in all the fields of science done here . And this all amidst a very hostile environnement , and without much natural ressources .

When you place the human rights of those who want you dead above your own human rights, you're either an idiot or a martyr. Either way your heading for destruction.

The only thing you can learn from history is that nothing can be learned from history.... nothing is ever the same. So many mistakes are made from the good intension of historians trying to divert the flaws of the past without realizing the flaws of the now. Hell is a road built on good intension. Every moment is different... Every Occupation different. Only destruction comes from absolutes.

You don't know about what your are talking , and you can't read . Those HR groups can only denounce [eventual] wrongdoings i wrote . They can't act very much . Now saying that someone is an idiot , shows only your "high" level of intelligence . I'm sorry for you , and for you being an "European"

We only need SMART friends , not "observers" , who don't know about what they talk .

Catholicism. Just wanted others to know that is my personal opinion.