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Racists among us
Tali Farkash
Published: 20.04.07, 07:49
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61. How convenient...
Ben Kasus ,   Israel   (04.20.07)
For Ms Farkash to happen upon this conversation at catch it in it entierty. Nothing else little kids would talk about on the steps of a shul on Shabbat, except something that would make a good smear article to write? Good thing your perceptive ears caught all that. Nice try though.
62. dos babes rule
(04.20.07)
63. racists among us
bear ,   zefat,israel   (04.20.07)
I'm an Ashkensi, but I wish I was as smart and had as deep a neshoma as sephardim and Temenin.
64. 46 - nice try to slander me
mike ,   israel (formerly usa   (04.20.07)
i'm a goy immigrant and proud of it. i'm also a christian and proud of it. and i'm against the rabbis because of their false teachings which point man away from the one true god and his clear teachings in the tanakh. but you won't see me going around tooting my own horn. you have to because there is no one else of any credibility to openly endorse your obscurantist views. you go ahead and continue with your slander me and display your hate for christians, if that makes you feel more "jewish". i guess you need to do whatever it takes. ps - you should add "enthusiastic christian-basher" to your list of credentials you sign off with. that'd be more appropriate.
65. And you are a member of this
Allan ,   US   (04.20.07)
racist community? why?
66. The "Author" is in need of a serious day job....
Al   (04.20.07)
Poorly written and pathetic in script. This wannabee writer can be used by a second rate news site like Ynet but in real Journalism she wouldn't get a copy girl job.
67. I never saw the word Sephardi and Ashkenazi
ben ,   singapore   (04.20.07)
in the Torah ???? I am told that I am a shephardi when I was 7 years old ,must I apologise ??? My wife prepared gefilte fish today. Too bad Shephardi married Ashkenazi already , must we apologise for your racism ideas ???? Our children what are they knows as in your prejudicial standards ? All three read Hebrew like drinking water speak 8 diffrent language, so much they apologise for being jews. My maids they read the TORAH and Talmud, it looks like the left the catholic church. O please get out of that Racism and stop pushing the blame on the Orthodox community ! IDIOTS !
68. ***** EMMMM
ben ,   singapore   (04.20.07)
The Prayer/ Music and lyrics: by Daniel Zamir (I) (am a pauper), riding a donkey Trying not to fall into The castle in the sand Of time that has ended Of everything that has passed Of what was, that was Of what will be tomorrow Will you laugh, will you cry Will you fall or will you rise Will you leave, will you come Will you want and hope If you try to always move in the direction of good If we hold on together and not let go And not surrender to all the evil surrounding us We will yet see Tel Aviv bloom And then maybe even there in Mea Shearim they will start to untangle the knots And join the celebration What has happened to me What did I have Heal me, save me Fair and modest one So what will become of us my friends Who knows until when When we go back to being together soon When we reach the end In our land of Zion and Jerusalem
69. racist comments
David ,   Baltimore, MD USA   (04.20.07)
My 5yo old daughter was told by several classmates (last year) that she wouldn't find a husband because she's dark skinned. We spoke to the head of the school. She did address our concerns but these comments (Shvartse etc) were all too common. We moved her to a MO Zionist Yeshiva and this is no longer a problem.
70. response to kiwijew 7
Mike ,   Somewhere Overhere   (04.20.07)
I essentially agree with the sentiment that you express in your post--i.e., that we are all Jews and human beings and rubbish attitudes such as Ms Farkas encounters among some Ashkenazim are a great shame.However, you perpetuate two "racial" misconsceptions in the language you use-1. you said you are "Aryan looking" as you are a giyyoret(convert to Judaism) from European ancestry. It is only because of the Nazi racist idelology that "Aryan" has become synonymous with "light-skinned and fair haired". The Persians and northern Indians are also "Aryan" and most of them tend to be dark-skinned.Secondly,you also seem to perpetuate the notion (which Ms Farkas alludes to) that it in an essential condition of "Ashkenaziness" to be fair-skinned as opposed to Sephardi and Mizrahi Jews.Also not true-there are many Ashkenazim who are very dark and swarthy & stereotypically Middle Eastern looking(again, "stereotype" being an operatiev word) and many Sepharadi/Mizrahi who are very fair.In the societies in Northern and eastern Europe (e.g., Germany,Poland) in which the general non-Jewish population was by and large lightskinned and fair,the Jews in general(who were Ashkkenazi) were usually perceived and depicted as dark and swarthy by the general population.It is ironic and sad that some segments of the Ashkenazi (haredi and non-haredi) population evaluate the worth and beauty of an individual by the degree of skin tone-but not uncommon.You can also look at other societies-Haiti comes to mind-where the lighter skinned descendants of Africans and French colonists discriminated against their darker, "purer" African brothers, all the while proclaiming themselves sons of Africa.
71. Naomi Ragen in training
(04.20.07)
Pretentious chin-on-hand pose says it all.
72. Blithering idiots among us
Aviva ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (04.20.07)
What a disgrace to the religious community this blathering yentel is. YNet's "token Haredi" whose only credentials as a "religious authority" are that she has spent $2000 on a custom wig.
73. Everybody's got one
John Cunningham ,   Haverford, PA, USA   (04.20.07)
Religions are like opinions, everybody's got one. This a paraphrasing of the expression opinions are like (we all know what), everybody's got one. I'll go to hell tomorrow, I'm too busy today.
74. 6&7,Israeli peace activist Uri Avenery said
vijaya   (04.20.07)
in of his pieces that jews when they returned to Israel identified not with their semitic past but the European one.That persists.I have seen jews who refer to themselves as Europeans.In fact in 1896 the Austrian Jew,author of Der Juden Staat(The Jewish State) called for a Zionist state that would defend Europe against the barbarians(all non Europeans).
75. The Yemenites are beautiful people who remained
(04.20.07)
close to Torah during the exile. The Ashkenazim were ashamed of them and treated them like idiots. Even they made them shave off their payot! They stole their babies for adoption. Disgraceful!
76. Thank you No. 60 - I am with you.
Lena ,   UK   (04.20.07)
Shabbat Shalom.
77. Tali Farkast - When will...
an Israeli ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (04.20.07)
Thank you Tali. A very important subject too often hidden away. Very well put. One cavil - it happens in the secular section of our society too, I'm sorry to say.
78. Tali, open your heart not your ears !
Marcel Abel ,   France   (04.20.07)
79. Race Ranking
Democrat ,   Tel-Aviv   (04.20.07)
Tali is right - there is a racism in Israel. Like in Nazi Germany, also in Israel races are ranked according to their "quality" and "purity". Roughly speaking the rank looks as following(from top to bottom): 1) Ashkenazis(with internal ranking) 2) Sephardis(with internal ranking) 3) 1990's new immigrants( "= = =") 4) Druzs 4) Beduins 5) Other Arabs 6) etc'......
80. Guys !!! Just leave
King of Israel   (04.20.07)
Hello Tali ! I am Atilla Karagözoğlu what I would like to tell you is...? Benthammmmm, what was I was going to sayy :)))) *** jokes are from the skies !!! You all have great Shabbat and Week-end. See you monday I love you I am Your King, Tali you free...take me as friend. Kings are human also :)))))
81. where is my princess ?
King of Israel   (04.20.07)
nothing about Tali. I suppost to be The King look how I poor. shame on you Israel :) Atilla Karagözoğlu King of Moon
82. This is just colourism.
RK ,   Brampton, Canada   (04.20.07)
I am not Jewish. Far from it. But the more I see races (more like cultures where people come in many tones), colourism is rampant. I've sometimes been baffled at how South asian some Jews look while some look Swedish. But colourism is here to stay and darker folks should not exacerbate it by desperately seeking lighter only mates. Blue veins test, brown paper bag tests and fake blonde hair/blue contacts show a grotesque acceptance of this mindset.
83. Tali is nuts. Who cares about your narrow world and
Go away ,   USA   (04.20.07)
experiences?
84. LOOK HOW BEAUTIFUL YOU ARE TALI, G-D BLESS YOU THAT YOU HAVE
MOSHE ,   US   (04.20.07)
MANY JEWISH CHILDREN AS PROUDLY JEWISH AND BEAUTIFUL AS YOU. I HOPE MY SON WILL BE CHOSEN BY ONE LIKE YOU. SINCERELY, MOSHE
85. Racists Among Us
Meirke ,   Brooklyn, USA   (04.20.07)
You have to be pretty sheltered not to see the same type of elitism from Sefaradim. For example, in the US, Sefaradim are equally passionate about preventing such intermarriage. And I still remember my cousin in Jerusalem being told some 25 years ago that he was not welcome at a sefardic youth minyan. Get used to it. It took 200 years for galitzianers to marry litvaks.
86. To No. 1 (Brauner) Remember, Lilach Is Yemenite
Jeff ,   Cherry Hill, NJ USA   (04.20.07)
87. Come on Tali, stop writing nonsense.
Inyaki ,   Bilbao, Basque   (04.20.07)
This little girl must be sick.She needs a shrink, before she goes wild. Don't you have good pofessionals in the Yeshuv? She is crying for help.
88. Bad Ynetttt, I want Tali my e-mail friend or Your King goes
Atilla Karagözoğlu   (04.20.07)
I am serious. I mean as friend. publish this, poor MyYnet .) you know the poor news site :))) H......z :))))))
89. Yemenite? Pole?
Antonio ,   Haifa   (04.20.07)
These terms are as bigoted as they come, and she has the gall to accuse anyone of "racism"? (Well, it is really not racism, but subethnic bigotry, but we all know that Ynet is not an honest paper to put things as they are anyway) We are all Jews in Israel, not Yemenites, Poles, Russians, or whatever. Shame on you for your subethnic bigotry and these made-up or overexaggerated stories. Pathetic.
90. Jews, including Ashkenazi, are a Mediterranean people
Jake   (04.20.07)
and therefore on the 'dark end' of the Caucasoid peoles, i.e. a tendency toward being dark-haired and olive -skinned, with fair features and blondism being a minority characteristic. The most frequent genetic markers among Jews, both Ashkenazi and Sephardic, are very similar to various peoples of the Mediterranean Basin and northern Fertile Crescent, including south/central Italians, Greeks, Anatolian Turks, Armenians, Kurds, and Lebanese. Jews are less closely related to Arabian Bedouins and peoples of the southern Fertile Crescent, but they are very distant from the Trans-Alpine European peoples of Germanic, Celtic, and Slavic peoples. That includes Ashkenazim, and that is something they have to get used to. Abraham and the Hebrews were natives of Aram-Naharaim (modern Kurdestan, or northern Mesopotamia), which is not exactly Viking-country.
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