Put that in your pipe and smoke it ynet.

These British moonbats want to deny the reality of ISLAMOFASCISM and pull the 'ol "blame the JOOOOOO'S" WHY DONT THE ARABS and THEIR MOONBAT LEFTIST FRIENDS EXCEPT THE FACTS 1.THEY TRIED TO DESTROY ISRAEL AND LOST. 2. THEY HAVE TO EXCEPT RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEIR "REFUGEES" 3. ISRAEL IS HEAR TO STAY AND IF THEY REALLY WANT TO TRY...THIS TIME ISRAEL WILL KEEP FROM EGYPT TO IRAN IF THE ISLAMOFASCIST TRY.

The saddest thing about this whole situation is that rational discourse, using objective facts to support arguments and the truth, is no longer in effect in British Universities. One ould get a good understanding of what has happened by reading Orwell's 1984 in which a system developed that proclaimed lies as truth and truth as lies without objective reality. The organizers of this event, just by inviting a undistinguished academic fraud and self-hating Jew such as Finklestein and a notorious left-wing antisemite such as Cockburn showed that the debate was cooked. Ironically, by proclaiming this disgusting lie, the students have become Finklestein and Cockburn. In other words, they are trying to stifle pro-Israel supporters from excpressing their own opinions by accusing Israel-supporters of some kind of conspiracy.

Maybe that's why the BBC's own international poll states that 56% of the world looks upon Israel with disfavor? Because Zionists control the media? It's not enough that most people hate Israel with twisted ferocity, but now anyone who supports Israel must be accused of being "brainwashed" by the "pro-Jewish lobbies." And how annoyingly typical of Europe too...

Just in case the editors were wondering ... or the people who actually attended the for forum? May be they just didn't notice .... thats it.

But I believe its Israel's enemies that would JUST love debate to be silenced - TOTAL OPPOSITE.

Well I say thank God I'm not 100% American, based on the 'american' comments here..if I were, then i'd be just as blank-minded. Didn't think human could be so easily fooled into believing certain strategic opinions as though they were facts. One of those being that 'Israel is the closest ally to the US'. Ever wonder why the closest state would be israel? I'll tell u why..people of the world don't wanna be as co-operative with states that ally with Israel. hmm..Japan, u'll say? Well good luck!

How all these people can criticise Israel and then claim that somehow criticism is stiffled. One quick glance at a bookshop middle east department should dismiss any idea of "censorship". Has Alex Cockburn been prevented from spreading his lies? Has Finkelstein? Was Said? Is Massad? Judt?

Honest debate is the last thing they want. Quite the contrary, this is just another front in the war to delegitimize the Jewish state by shutting us up. It's an effort to distort reality & impose "politically correct" BS on the public. They want to promote propaganda instead of analysis - the premise being that Israel is always wrong while inconvenient facts are ignored. What they really want is that we cannot defend ourselves.

The problem is every time someone tries to criticize Israel they are called anti-Semite. Israel uses the word to avoid criticism of West Bank apartheid, of adventurous wars in Lebanon, of nuclear weapons critics, etc etc Mostly, we all want Israel to succeed, but on a sense of Justice since it claims to be a western democracy. Really, truely, if the Palestinian problem could be solved Israel could be a key player in fixing and building the Middle East. But they need to comes to terms with the simple fact that 95% of the people born in the West Bank do not wish to be a part of Israel. That's not anti-Antisemitism, that's reality. Most of the world wants to see a healthy Israel AND a healthy Palestine living side by side.

Some people on the internet call critics of Israel anti-Semites, but as to the ADL and most other major Jewish groups, they rarely attack people for criticizing Israel unless he or she says something uniquely immoral, generalizing, and wrong. Israel's foreign ministry doesn't go around calling everyone who criticizes Israel anti-Semitic. Claiming that the West Bank is in a state of apartheid is nonsense. The West Bank is not in Israel proper. The separation is based on location, not on race, and the only major forms of separation are a fence, (with walled parts only in which snipers and bombers are most prominent, and even these areas have big gaps for access points for Palestinian workers and stuff), license plates, which are used to differentiate between an Israeli car in the West Bank and not whether someone is an Arab or a Jew, and bypass roads, which are used so settlers can drive without close proximity to Arab villages where they would most likely be attacked by mobs (or possibly attack Arabs themselves). The South African apartheid was a true apartheid based on racial separation, and if you do any bit of research, you will see just how much infinitely more terrible it was than any bogus claim against Israel ever made. Adventurous wars in Lebanon is really too simplistic a term. If you've been keeping up with the Winograd commission and more you'll see why it was "adventurous"- and why the blame falls not on "israelis" but on Olmert, Peretz, and Halutz's refusal to follow plans by former chiefs of the army with better strategies, that could have wiped out Hezbollah from the back with a minimal death toll on both sides. The only nuclear weapoin "critic" that was silenced was Mordechai Vanunu, and he wasn't a critic, he was stealing information, technical, confidential information, and trying to release it internationally. That is traitorous, illegal, and he was justified in being put in prison. He's out now, anyway. It's true the people of the West Bank do not want to be a part of Israel. But Israel does not want the West Bank to become a part of it, either. The only people who want that are the idealistic mono-nation solution supporting ultra-liberals, and radical right-wing fundementalist Israeli Kahanists. Both of which are in the minority. I too want to see a healthy Israel and a healthy Palestine side by side, but unfair criticism of Israel is just that, unfair.

Most of the world wants to see a healty Israel and Palestine living side by side , you wrote . MOST , you are maybe right . But those who are NOT interested in this are the palestinians themselve . They want a Palestine from Jordan river to the sea , and that's the problem [ an actual minister in the pal. authority govenment declared it , not Israelis ]

Um, both of Finkelstein's parents are Holocaust survivors. His mother was in Maidanek and his father in Auschwitz. Statements like "he denies the Holocaust" display the willingness of a section of the Jewish population to say anything to deride Finkelstein, even if it's unresearched and downright invented. I am a Jew, and I am 100% pro-Israel (active in college-level AIPAC work and other various pro-Israel groups), but I think that the way some people are attacking Norm is just disgusting. His scholarly research is solid. Some of his points are too. Israel DOES commit human rights abuses, same as EVERY other country in the world. Norm's conclusions, however, I completely disagree with. It is a testament to the nobility and legitimacy of Israel that her citizens CAN question and criticize the actions of leaders. Bottom line, I don't agree with Norm's positions. To call him a "Holocaust denier", "self-hating jew", "anti-Israel" and "evil", however, is just ridiculous, especially since I would wager that none of you have ever truly met him. Disagree with him, fine, even rip his stuff to shreds, but do it in an informed and dignified way, as befits reasonable man, not in a haze of crazed hysteria. That only makes you, and your fellow supporters of Israel, seem to be exactly what much of the world thinks we are. I for one am offended and embarrassed that, to those people, you reflect me and millions of other Jews.

And you are a moron.

the people who say the debate is denying holocaust and accepting terrorism should watch the debate first. its on the doha debates website: dohadebates.com ur comments only show how u aren't ready to debate