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Concentration camps may charge for entry ticket
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Published: 31.05.07, 09:45
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1. Why not let visitors pay only for the guides?
Suzanne   (05.31.07)
2. At least this time they wont take all your possessions when
you go there ,   Only small fee-Alan   (05.31.07)
3. We could ask BAYER to sponsor Auschwitz
(05.31.07)
4. Sponsors
M. Hartley ,   Atlanta, US   (05.31.07)
Maybe I. G. Auschwitz, I mean I. G. Farben, should foot the bill for, at least, Auschwitz.
5. #2 - 'Alan'
Righteous Zionist ,   Israel   (05.31.07)
Your cynical remark could be construed at antisemitic. If is you will laugh in self-congratulation at my talkback. If not, I think you lack taste. Museum fees are one thing - paying host countries Germany and Poland to see where ones families were murdered by them is something beyond the level of economics.
6. tickets
K. Tyson ,   Mobile, AL USA   (05.31.07)
Selling tickets seems to lend itself to a festival park atmosphere. Surely there is another way to raise funds?
7. WHY NOT - IT MUST BE KEPT UP FOR GENERATIONS
Andrew ,   Miami,Fl   (06.01.07)
8. #5- Sorry if I offended>I dont think Im an Antisemite.
Alan ,   SA   (06.01.07)
9. Concentration Camps charge for entry
Jack de Lowe ,   Raanana, Israel   (06.01.07)
My wife and I were at Dachau a few years ago and I was asked to pay to park my car there. When I refused, it was clear they understood my reason. I think it is a disguisting that the Germany government doesn't provide the funds necessary to see that these jewish graveyards are not understaffed.
10. Re: #5
Greg ,   LA   (06.02.07)
"host countries Germany and Poland to see where ones families were murdered by them" Are you suggesting that Poland was one of the countries that murdered people in concentration camps?
11. to #10
kutuzov ,   new york   (06.02.07)
I think the germans knew exactly what they were doing when they put Auschwitz in Poland. They knew the Polish sentiment towards the Jews. As a jew from Russia, I can tell you that all of us know that in Europe, the places where jews were hated most were Germany and Poland.
12. #10 - Yip.
Righteous Zionist ,   Israel   (06.03.07)
Of course, there were concentration camps in Poland as well as in Germany. Any reliable history of the Holocaust will tell you that. Auschwitz is in Poland, for example.
13. Re: #11 - Kutuzov
Greg ,   LA   (06.03.07)
Yes... Poland always was the biggest antisemitic country in this and four other Universes. Probably THIS is why Jews lived there for EIGHT HUNDRED YEARS, isn't it? Because of that animal, horrible Polish antisemitism Jews did not move, did not run, but stayed there, in Poland. It make no sense to me, but hey, I am just a stupid goyim, what do I know? The one and ONLY reason why the camps were built in Poland is because there, in Poland, lived the BIGGEST number of Jews in whole Europe (I guess that's because of this horrible Polish antisemitism, don't you think?). It simply was a matter of economics. If you don't believe me, read words of your fellow: "- Does the fact that the "Final Solution" took place in the East say anything about the nations of Eastern Europe? - No, it has to do with the concentration of Jews. Had there been a larger concentration of Jews in the Balkans, the extermination would have taken place there. Since most of the Jews were in Poland and Russia, the main killing centers were in those areas." - David Bankier, Hebrew University of Jerusalem Got that, boy?
14. Re: #12
Greg ,   La   (06.03.07)
Damn. Strong facts. Why didn't I see that myself? There is Poland, there are concentration camps is Poland, therefore Poland must have been killing people in those camps! It is so clear to me now. Geez, man your IQ must be about 400, eh? In other articles's talkbacks some Jewish dude stated that an education there is the best. I reply that maybe it is but your history classes and your knowlegde sucks. You have just proven me right (I hate when I am always right!) You DARE say to me this: 'any reliable history of the holocaust will tell you that'?! Your ignorance, stupidity and insolence is overwhelming. Any reliable history, if you could read, will also tell you WHY Auschwitz IS in Poland. That is your problem, Jews. You take a word out of a context and build a new path of history, completely twisted and illogic and completely NOT in an accord with HISTORY, usually ending this history of yours with blaming Poles for holocaust and all of your miseries. This is just disgusting. You are pathetic.
15. The Holocaust Industry never ceases to amaze.
Bartley Kulp ,   Safed, Israel   (06.03.07)
Will they be giving childrens and seniors discounts? Can you bring your own food or do you have to buy what they sell at the refreshment stand?
16. #14 from #12 "That is your problem, Jews"
Righteous Zionist ,   Israel   (06.05.07)
"That is your problem, Jews" and your barrage of taunts is enough to tell the world that you are a malicious heckler, to say the least . You enjoy provoking and derive cruel pleasure from getting your victims, whom you no doubt envy, to argue back. The more angry you make them the bigger the laugh. Your prejudice is an age-old disease which no logic can cure. Am Yisrael Hai!!!
17. to greg
tired of idiots ,   all over the world   (06.05.07)
what u r is a simple minded, not even too offencive of an anti semite who is literate but doesnt have much ability to comprehend what he is reading. U r right-everything thats about jews and by jews and against jews is OUR problem-i dont get why an ignoramus of a goy like u keeps reading and sticking his nose into our JEW BUSINESS. after all-this is not only a jew site-this is an israeli website-what is a goy doing reading it? Dont worry greg-u r seen and percieved by everybody on here for exactly what u r--a jew hating kid who failed reading comprehension class:) ps: yeye-i cant spell to save my life-but at least i can understand the facts i read:)
18. Re: #16
Greg ,   LA, USA   (06.05.07)
Oh yeah, man. Saying that your anti-Polish post was nothing more but boorish and disgusting lie makes me a 'malicious heckler'. Barrage of taunts? Your dumb lying post deserved much more than only a taunt. I do not provoke. You did by saying with such a strong belief that Poland was killing people in German Nazi concetration camps built on her soil. Once again, this lie is DISGUSTING. "The camps were located in German-occupied Poland, the European country with by far the largest Jewish population, but they were most emphatically not "Polish camps". This is not a mere semantic matter. Historical integrity and accuracy hang in the balance. Poland was the first nation attacked by the Third Reich, which ignited the Second World War on September 1, 1939. Polish forces fought valiantly, but were overwhelmed by the larger and better equipped Nazi army that invaded from the west, and then by the Soviet army, an ally of Hitler at the time, which attacked from the east. Nonetheless, Polish forces in exile continued the struggle against Hitler, together, of course, with other Allied troops, until the war's end. And it should also never be forgotten that, in addition to Polish Jews, who were targeted for total annihilation by the Nazi Final Solution, other Poles, including political prisoners such as Professor Wladyslaw Bartoszewski, who spoke so movingly at Auschwitz on January 27, and who was a key figure in the Polish underground, were also seized by the Nazis and incarcerated in concentration camps. Any misrepresentation of Poland's role in the Second World War, whether intentional or accidental, would be most regrettable and therefore should not be left unchallenged." January 30, 2005 - New York - American Jewish Committee Executive Director David A. Harris Piece out, moron. VIVAT POLONAIS!
19. RE: #16 - cont.
Greg ,   LA, USA   (06.05.07)
I was laughing so hard at your BS post that I actually forgot to ask you couple of questions: 1. 'my victims' - who are they? 2. whoever they are, why in the name of GD, do I envy them and HOW did you read that from my post? I guess your IQ isn't 400 after all, it must be way bigger that 600, since you can read such a thing between the lines. Oh, one more thing: any reliable historian and any person who more or less knows history will laugh at your dumb lies - the only person who made a laughable moron of himself - is you. NIECH ZYJE POLSKA!
20. Re: #17
Greg ,   LA, USA   (06.07.07)
Oh - I do comprehend what I am reading: an innocent article about some German concentration camps willing to charge people for entry bacame a pretext to spread more lies about Poland. I am a Pole and when someone says that Poland killed people in Her (sic!) KLs, trust me: this is MY business, not a 'Jew Business'. A fact that I am revealing nasty lies and defending my country makes me 'a jew hating kid'? Interesting.
21. to Greg
Pawel ,   Wroclaw. Poland   (06.09.07)
Greg, take a break They're liars, but I think enraging people every time you want to state something is not the way. It gives opposite result and you know that. Even if you're right. It will be long term process to change their minds. And for you our Jewish friends. Visit Poland, experience this legendary polish antisemitism and then spread your nonsenses. As Greg said, as long as you blame us there're will be Poles who defend our honor. Simply such BS needs straightening. Do you really think it's "sticking nose into Jewish Business"?
22. To Pawel
Greg ,   LA, USA   (06.10.07)
"It will be long term process to change their minds." Not quite. The process of these antiPolish propaganda started during WWII - spreaded by Soviets trying to turn world's eye away from Katyn murders (to those who don't know: Soviets were murdering Polish intelligentsia and army officers there, in Katyn >and other places< when they invaded Poland in '39). Poland, under communism regime did not bother to straighten her good name and say 'no' to these allegations and lies. To this day the history is tweaked, turned and re-written - usually blaming Poles for all atrocities: holocaust, killking Jews, antisemitism. I don't believe that Jews (well, I am generalizing here, I KNOW not every Jew thinks this way) will ever change their minds. The allegations and lies will achieve new level only. Soon you'll learn FROM THE BOOKS that Poles started the 2nd war, built KLs and were killing people there. This process of rewritting the History with Jewish version of history is already too deep. PS. How's Wroclaw? I lived in Swidnica (50 km away) for a long time :))
23. cd
Pawel ,   Wroclaw.Poland   (06.10.07)
maybe you're right. check this: http://polishpress.wordpress.com/2007/05/11/israeli-teenagers-are-a-nuisance-in-poland/ the discussion is even hotter than this btw Wroclaw's doing good. I'm amazed about its quick growth, and don't explain where Swidnica is:) I've just moved from Dzierzoniow:). Doing some research I found we even worked with the same people. E.g. Gieeraefefkropakom. take care Pawel
24. Czesc Pawel :)
Greg ,   LA, USA   (06.10.07)
same article, that you were reffering to is posted on this very site (well, not really THAT article, just info that Przekroj published it in Poland) : http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3402765,00.html Again, the fact that young people (tourists) from certain country behave like animals and protest of another country where those young men go to was finalized with, more or less, this: you (people of that second nation) are soooooo anti-blahblah, and you should shut up becaus you killed one MILLION people of 'the first' country (yes, I am being sarcastic, therefore 'the first' has double meaning). How were you able to find my humble person? 'Greg, LA' does not say too much.Also, I had never worked with, or for, gieeraef, I just happen to know the owners through my own contacts. They were and still are so nice to host this website for free: http://www.bazylika.org/ Dolny Slask RULEZ! :)) Trzymaj sie cieplo, panie Bracie! ~Grzes
25. czesc Greg
Pawel ,   Wroclaw.Poland   (06.10.07)
hej, polishpress is just translation of przekroj as I know. I found it trough ynetnews (i think so) In fact, Przekroj's article - wide commented in polish internet brought me here. And finding you was even easier. You wrote your email on some post here as you remember (same way we wrote host name of bazylika web site) I'm proud of myself :)) So you're not anonymous. Watch out (wrog nie spi:) to not be off topic: interesting that on polish sites folks' comments concerned on lack of activity of polish police, pointed beauty of Izraeli girls (those who met groups of Jewish teens in Krakow), and antisemitic posts occured hardly every. Sing of time? have a good week to all of you folks!
26. Pawel
Greg ,   LA, USA   (06.10.07)
Heja, I have not read the article's talkbacks that you posted yet but I am about doing so in few secs. Knowing the attitude of Jewish people toward Poland I don't even have to guess what kind of posts I would find there - I KNOW I'll find posts informing me that my grandparents built Auschwitz, that Poland was solely responsible for holocaust, that all Poles were doing nothing but collaborating with Germans etc, blah blah blah. Wroclaw, Swidnica, Dzierzoniow RULE!!!! Peace out, buddy :)
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