Instead of being heroes and taking down the TRAITORS they cling to their seats

I suggested this over 20 years ago, when I was still a teenager. If they Palestinians want to be independent, so be it. But that means that we should be under no pressure to provide them with guns, money, jobs, electricity, or water. Close the border, I say. And if the people in Gaza can't survive, it is not our problem or responsibility.

Tough talk & certainly welcome. But, why are they still in the coalition? Both parties, IB & Shas are very good at making speeches but little else. Only actions count.

Throw the Oslo or flush it down the sewerage. Cut the crap of supporting the Pals, Take control of the borders, bomb the underground tunnels. Blanket bomb the Terrorsit towards the se and fish them out if want to save them. But Dont !The two State Solution is a bogus and nothing will ever come out of it.Tell Condi to stay away and Take the Temple Mount and Wipe the Gaza Terroist for good. Reinstate the Jews in their own land in place sof their choice. Rebuild the PA Civilains and REeducated them to be good citizens.They can FORGET about Palestinian state in Judea, Samaria, and the Gaza Strip . The PA's missed the BOAT long AGO and NO MORE BOATs. Yisrael Beiteinu MK Israel Hasson cam ALSO RESIGN WITH OLMERT< PERETZ AND LIVNI ! ENOUGH od MONEY TRANSFER to The PA DISUNITY TERRORIST ! THE CURRENT MK declare you ASSETS !

It's easy to understand the great frustration among Israelis, but throwing up your hands and giving up is no solution. The problem in Gaza is demanding new thinking but it's not more disengagement. On the contrary. Israel must tell the US to stop micromanaging Israeli defense, and then reverse the disengagement. The idea of statehood was well-meaning but unwise. Palestinians are not a nation separate and distinct from those of Egypt and Jordan, and so far they have not made any progress in their attainment of a culture leading to statehood. Israel must take charge of this situation because otherwise the US and the Arabs will do it for you. Israel must impose conditions and demand results and it needs to have a long-term vision so that this Gaza situation does not continue to deteriorate and present a chronic threat to future generations of Israelis. It's madness to continue to spend such huge amounts of money that do not benefit the population. Add all that up through the decades and it amounts to billions of dollars. What do Palestinians have to show for it? No infrastructure, no political development, no civic maturity, nothing. Wouldn't it make more sense to offer assistance to each individual family and offer relocation, if they so choose, to other Arab countries? Compensate them for the land, offer them scholarships, old age pensions, whatever they need to live productive lives. There would be lots of resistance, but things can't continue the way they are. There are other ways of solving the Gaza problem. To keep going back to the old two-state solution, or to turn your back to the problem, will not yield good results. Israel needs to create a good plan, and then ask for US backing. By being proactive, Israel may get good results. Pasivity and dependency on the US orchestration of the country's defense can only work against Israel's best interests.

The Pals have to grow up and take responsibility. It they want their own state it certainly comes with collecting their own taxes and providing basics out of that. I have never understood why we give them so much money that no other country would. However if we closed our boarders to them and told them to get on with it, we would also have to allow them to open their seaboard and boarder with Egypt!! also a frightening thought

Israel may want a disengament of Gaza, but Gaza is not interested in disengagement of Israel: The final goal of Palestines is not only a Palestine state, but the annihilation of Israel. Most people seem to ignore Hamas Charters, written in 1988, I have never seen them amended.

OK. Go ahead and disengage from Gaza completely. It should have been done long time ago. This would require allowing the Palestinians to build an airport, a sea port, collect their own taxes, and manage their border with Egipt independently. The price Israel will pay is very likely a war with the Palestinians within 5 years. The Palestinians want and need the opportunity to fight Israel on equal footing. This will be painful for Israel but, hopefully, will settle the accounts forever just like the Yom Kippur war setttled the accounts with Egipt. This is the price of so many years of misguided occupation; it will be hard to avoid this bill.

The world has been raising the double standards bar higher every year against Israel while the Arabs get away with the same 30 year old propaganda. Its time to treat the Strip (Aza) as enemy territory and force all of them to buckle and behave as human beings not Savages. That will bring about compromise. They understand brute force only but Jews are too descent and dont push the punishment as far as the Christian or Moslem world does. It is time to crush the terrorists and their supporters with real collective punishment. Cut off all Utilities !!

All this is very true, and the Arabs and the Palestinians have a lot to answer for , for their mainly self inflicted dire situation. How ever our hands are not entirley clean. Oslo also included stopping the expansion of the settlements. We didn't keep our part of the bargain, so whilst this certainly doesn't justify suicide bombing, or rockets from an unoccupaied Gaza, it is misleading to say we are totally in the right. I can understand Palestinian attacks on military targets in view of this, such as Israeli army bases or soldiers. They attacked civilians instead which is terror, and lost their moral standing.

Where do I apply for some of that disengagement??? I'm not greedy. I'll take cash or certified checks; Visa and MC welcome, too. A nice piece of property on the water - preferably in or around Eilat - would not be rejected, either. Let me try to bring this down to a level I understand: My neighbor doesn't like me and covets my garden. He invites a few friends and they start a serious, life-threatening ruckus. Being a feisty little sh-t, I go over there and soundly beat his -ss, subsequent to which and for reasons I no longer remember, I end up supporting his entire family. After a few years, I get sick of hearing, "occupation" as the end-all evil of the world, and I retreat from his yard, only to have him start the ruckus all over, while I, like some idiot, keep right on supporting his family. In the meantime, they all sit on their butts with their hands stuck out, whine to the world of their plight and collect money from left and right with which they promptly buy whatever they can throw at me, trying to break every damn' window in my house. I know that I must be missing a vital piece of this puzzle, so, somebody help me out.

Your husband (a wuss) has been afraid to take the necessary steps to (xxx censored) those neighbors, so 1) they don't threaten you anymore, and 2) they can develop their talents in a more suitable neighborhood. Why afraid? Because you and your family have been told that all of you, in spite of your sprightly condition at 60, and your children in the prime of life, you are not legally capable of making decisions and taking charge of the situation. They say that, which is false, of course, but for some reason you and your family go along with it. You need your in-laws, and your neighbors across the street, and those over there, in the next county, all of whom meet regularly, most often without your attendance, to discuss what to do with YOUR garden. You hold title to your land. In fact it has been in your family from time inmemorial, although it got squatted on by strangers every now and then. But now it's yours again. The plot thickens: A couple of your kids are kind of rebellious and have taken sides with your neighbors. This drives you up the wall, but what can you do, right? They are your kids, even though you often hear them on the phone plotting against you. So there you stand. Waiting to be told what to do. In the meantime, your neighbors are just about ready to strike at you and this time they've got big guns and some nasty goons from Hell's Angels on their side. Hairy and smelly too. But you wait for the committee to tell you what to do.... And in the meantime, you still provide those neighbors with water and electricity....

Ynet never publishes my talkback when I constantly urge everybody to visit www.jerusalemsummit.org. The plan is there. They advocate paying the palis to leave and how this can be incorporated AFTER they have left. Over 80% of palis polled said they want to leave and are being threatened if they do. Sure, how will the leaders be able to steal millions $$ if there is no one on Gaza -.West Bank---- the land officially and divinely sanctioned to Israel. Please visit the website and support the plan. The only sane, fair and himane solution for all. G-d bless Israel.

#1 Get rid of your "husband," if he's not worth a s--t. #2 Tell those kids they will forfeit everything for which you worked, if they don't stop the crap, and mean it. #3 Like hell am I gonna pay for next door's water and electricity. #4 To hell with the in-laws and neighbors. They're only waiting to see who comes out ahead. #5 I'm gonna sit in that garden with a double-ought shotgun, and if you want a piece of it, I'll make you damn' sorry you ever thought of wanting even one sliver of it. #6 It may take most everything I have and I may be outnumbered, but this is my frigging garden, and, so help me god, I will die before I'll say otherwise. As is the case with most bullies, they will back off, if you get across that you mean it.

I'm glad you got posted this time. Yes, I'm familiar with that website but I had almost forgotten about it. It's a great website and it's necessary to bring it up once in a while. Israelis have been fooled by their leaders and the meddling international community into thinking that there are two or three options for a solution and that they have to settle for the least destructive one, or the one filled with false hopes. In fact, there are other very good alternatives available with elements that would benefit everyone, Jews and Arabs. Those solutions would not benefit the PA leaders, who have no agenda other than the destruction of Israel, and whose official and unofficial cast of characters seems to be increasing constantly. First it was just Fatah, then came Hamas, and now I've lost count of how many groups and subgroups are operating there and benefitting financially and politically at the expense of the people. That leadership must be cleaned up. I have a very strong belief that if Israel were to stand strong in front of the US first, and then the rest of all meddling parties (EU, Russians, Arab countries, UN), and submit a good plan, well conceived and developed, and said "This is what we propose and this is why it is good for both Israelis and Palestinians". And if Israel really stuck to its guns, Israelis would prevail. It's a matter of maintaining their determination and have a persuasive plan. I'd like to say more about the solution here but I don't want to get censored myself. But I hope I managed to get the concept across.