B"H Hamas no more recognizes Israel than it does Fatah. In fact, demolish Fatah is its stepping-stone to atacking Israel on behalf of Iran, so Iran does not have to face Israel's response to its nuclear threats. Fatah is in serious trouble here. It is not a question of a two-state solution anymore. It is a question of if there is a state solution anymore. Hamas is not a state of its own but is Iran in different clothing. That is what this boils down to. It is not a Jewish problem or an Arab problem. It is a dependence problem versus independence problem. The Holy Land itself is being subjugated by those who dispise its independence and responsibility. This is not a win for Israel at all although Hamas can talk it out to make Israel feel more confortable. This is a very bad development and measures need to be taken to throw Hamas and all who support Hamas out before Hamas devestates Fatah because Hamas does not truly recognize ANY local government. It came to power by election to destroy the democracy, an inconsistency, and it needs to go if democracy is to be sustained in the region. Otherwise, it is just an Iranian puppet government running the show on the Mullah's behalf. Quote: "Nobody's going to abandon the Palestinian people to the mercies of a terrorist organization and the most extreme elements of the terrorist organization. We're certainly not going to participate in this extinguishing the hopes of a whole swath of the Palestinian population to live in a Palestinian state," he added.

Some Friends

Add the "dumb and dumber" team of Bush/Condi and 30,000 visas for our Saudi "friends" from 9/11-and you have a disaster. Tell Condi to deliver 40 fully armed B-52's (we have hundreds laying around) so you can do that carpet-bombing your wise Rabbi suggested- or stay out of Israel.This isn't just stupid, this is Treason.

and rice are our friends? They train terrorists to kill Jews and they are our friends? They sell advanced weapons to the arabs and they are our friends? They shake hands with you and stab you in the back at the same time.

and so did hamas...the difference is the word realized what the nazis were about and almost all joined up to defeat them (albeit a bit too late for many) the EU and UN seem to want to bend over backwards to accomodate hamas and pretend they are democratic and want peace I will not live under the "peace of Islam" and wouldnt wish that upon even my enemies

If yes,after this new,forget about it. Their job was up to now to delude Jews in the thinking they were our friends,and deluded Jews leaders believed them! We must learn not to be that naive anymore!

US will support and recognise Hamas as Fatah Falls. Condi will surely make a press release soon conveying the US support to the Hamas because of DEMOCRASY BULL S !

You are right Keren. Israel should have nothing to do with the US and should stop accepting the 1.8 billion dollars a year it gets from the US in military aid to make it the dominant military leader in the region. Compare that amount to the 59 million given to Abbas! You must be naive!

Isn't it time that Israel learned? The latest munitions sent to Abbas from Israel and America are now in the hands of Hamas. The Palestinians get tens of billions in aid from the Arab world, from the EU, America and Russia. Israel at least pays back the aid it gets from America... in medical breakthroughs where the US is given the patents, and in technological advancements, etc...

The madness continues even after it has all been exposed as a major failure. And Israel rearranges the deck chairs on this Titanic instead of jumping off this ship of fools.

Sure US Israel commits suicide for Abbas. NATIONAL STRIKE TO FORCE ELECTIONS no more kadima and Labor they have messed up everything.

#6 Jack Bauer plays the Nazi card by stating that Hitler came to power as a result of a democratic election. Actually, Hitler didn't have a majority in the 1933 election and his party had fewer votes than in the previous one. But people of other parties, such as von Papen, thought they could control Hitler in the cabinet, and therefore surrendered to his demand to be Chancellor. Furthermore, the real road to power for Hitler was the "emergency decree" power of President von Hindenburg, which is exactly the same emergency decree power that President Abu Quisling Abbas has exercised in dissolving the elected government.

The longer the training lasts ,the more the Arabs can milk the USA for money&goods which can be sold in the Suk. Look at the AFFIRMATVE SHOPPING going on in Gaza THIS VERY DAY . The same as what went on in Baghdad . But dont worry Shrink wrapped pallets of new crisp dollar notes will be shipped in courtesy of US taxpayers to replace it And of course a "DEMOCRATIC " election is sure to follow .-Give me Liberty or give me death but meantime we milk USA for what we can and the suckers will keep coughing up .

Train them how to protect corrupt ministers? How to steal people money? How to get drunk and torture their own people and be unable to fight? Gaza is a lesson for those guys and for their trainers who spent all of the money for nothing. US and Israel should respect the Palestinian democratic choice in 2006 election instead of supporting corrupt thieves.

well you seem to think I support abbas? I dont...and dont support anyone who stands against the jewish people. Hamas,Hezbollah, fatah, islamic jihad, iran, syria,etc... I consider them all to be enemies of Israel. My point was that just because someone says the word democracy dont expect a rosy outcome. The word democracy literally means people power, so do you think current Israeli leaders represent the peoples wishes? Bottom line is that both hamas and the nazis were involved in "democracy" Neither refused to use the system to gain advantage for themselves.....so the actual process differed slightly? so what? does that change anything? They both are bound to destroy the very system that allowed them in the door. I think they are both the enemies of the jewish people and should be seen for what they really are! what card am I playing? whatever card it is it trumps leftnik refusnik runawaynik givawaynik bs