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Shas MK proposes 'rehab centers' for gays
Amnon Meranda
Published: 21.06.07, 15:14
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1. Nisim Ze'ev for Prime Minister of the truly JEWISH ISRAEL.
Miriam ,   Jerusalem   (06.21.07)
Finally a minister with the proper suggestion.
2. More Hypocritical BS From Shas
Bill Foonman ,   Jacksonville, USA   (06.21.07)
Shas MK Ze'ev states, "That gay people must be made aware of “how their lifestyle is destroying our existence." I would suggest that Shas' open support for the deferment from army service for those studying in religious institutions, has way more negative impact on Israel's existence than being gay.
3. MK Ze'ev's statement is true abomination!
David ,   Karmiel, Israel   (06.21.07)
Ze'ev's idea of banning Gay Sex is the true abomination. Regarding his idea of Gay Rehabilitation I would remind him that there were once "rehabilitation centers” for Jews, Gays, Gypsies and other "Untermenschen" in Europe and the most famous one was called Auschwitz! Ze'ev and Shas (remember they do nothing with instructions from the Rav Ovadia Josef) MUST answer for this and I trust that YnetNews will publish this! This is truly a Hate Crime. It is another act which will cause more and more anti-Semitism and hatred against Israel. It is time the Prime Minister came out of the closet and made public his standpoint of Gay Rights as well as those of Kadimah. The Voters can then choose whom to support.
4. Make him Heath Minister
Jerusalemite ,   Israel   (06.21.07)
Seriously: Nissim Ze'ev tells it like it is.
5. Build Rehab Centers for Homophobes.
Terry ,   Eilat, Israel   (06.21.07)
They need them a lot more than gays. There is something psychologically amiss with people who allow irrational fears & prejudices to so cloud their judgement that they can spout such idiotic ideas. What an obnoxious thing to say. Would he like it if someone said they should build rehab centers for Haredim - you could certainly make a case that their life-style is not too normal & that they should be helped to integrate into normal society.
6. Very good idea
Moses ,   JHB, South Africa   (06.21.07)
Thanks Ze've for a brilliant idea but just to add something; I believe that they have to be expelled from our holy land. Why do they choose Jerusalema not Sderot so they can demonstrate with Qassams? Mugabe(Zimbabwe President); once told them that even animals they are better than them because they know were to go for s*x. He was right even here in South Africa we see this nonses.
7. RE: Shas MK proposes 'rehab centers' for gays
Eric Mahr ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (06.21.07)
Kol Hakavod! It is about time that someone in government took a strong stand not just at coutering the debviationist and abberational behaviour of the radical gay movement, but also proposed a means of helping the poor individuals who are ensnared by this abberation with a means of curing the affliction. Gays are not deserving of extra rights since they have a disorder and do not constitute a "minority". In America Blacks and Hispanics were minorities and needed protection of the law. Gays do not fit this model. As the MK said, no one told them to go in or to leave the closet. But to flaunt their abberational behaviour continually in our faces is an afront to the Jewish People and progressive peoples everywhere
8. i am gald beileve me that the jewish imams
rashid ,   palistinian   (06.21.07)
start to see eye to eye with our imams, soon you are all going to join us with our great religion as preached by muhamad (pbuh) and follow him as well, only a matter of time believe me here in gaza we dont have this people like hormonsexual, here every man is healthy and well and women know their place in society i still not move to israil they dont want me so i will try to move to egypt, iblis someone get me out of gaza
9. Shas should build 'rehab centers' for themselves
Eric ,   Tel Aviv   (06.21.07)
As we have religious extremists who insist on having segregated buses, streets, and clothing police because women will distract the men. Maybe they need 'rehab centers' for these sex crazed religious men.
10. # 3
A true Jew ,   Israel   (06.21.07)
I think this MKs idea is very mild to what Hasem did to the sodomites. But then i guess you think that what Hashem did was a hate crime also. Times may change, peoples opininons and ideas may change, but one thing is for sure and solid and that is that Hashem never changes. The hateful thing to do is to let people continue in their sin, do nothing about it, and then watch as they spend eternity in hell when Hashem has done everything possible for mankind not to let that happen. However, he will respect their freewill to commit sin. That said, he won't tolerate it forever. And trust me the voters are going to come out in this election and change the leadership to one that Jews from everywhere can be proud to call Israel their home.
11. Rehab Centers
NYC Girl   (06.21.07)
This is an absolutely ludicrous proposition. First of all, people don't choose to be gay. Why would anybody want to deliberately subject themselves to the sort of homophobic rantings exhibited in some of these talkbacks? If the haredim want to open rehab centers let them concentrate on helping drug abusers and alcoholics. They're the ones who need help, not the homosexuals. And to Moses: If Robert Mugabe, a man who has nearly single-handedly brought his country to ruin, is your idea of someone who Israelis should emulate just because of his asinine pronouncement about homosexuals, your thinking has apparently been seriously compromised by your hatred.
12. MK Ze'ev is right - these people need help
Ari   (06.21.07)
13. Great idea! It's crule that they should suffer...
Jeremiah ,   Israel's Jewish Land   (06.21.07)
while at the as time tainting the Holy Land.
14. This Anti-Gay Rhetoric Is Political Manipulation.
Terry ,   Eilat, Israel   (06.21.07)
Just more political grand-standing from our crap politicians. This is political manipulation at it's worst. Those homophobes out there should really resent this attempt to curry favour & create a diversion so that you don't notice the other major failings of Shas. For example, why are they still in Olmert's lousy coalition? Isn't that damaging our country far more than a gay parade? Why did they support Peres for president? What kind of under-handed sleazy political deal-making was that? Now this corrupt politician comes up with an outrageous idea that he knows 100% will never become legislation. Why? Do you mean to tell me there is nothing more important to discuss in the Knesset? So, people - you are being used & manipulated, an appeal to bigotry, intolerence, & ignorance, by a sleazy politician hiding behind religion. How does it feel to be a dupe?
15. Terry, thanks for that comment!
Mike ,   Eilat   (06.21.07)
16. Build REhab Centres for Islamophobes and Arabophobes
English guy ,   London   (06.21.07)
That would take care of 95% of the Israeli population.
17. Centers needed for Shas and their ilk
Sidney ,   USA   (06.21.07)
These are ignorant, bigoted people who bring shame upon the Jewish people. At least some of them would benefit from a real education.
18. No...seriously
Charley ,   Jerusalem   (06.21.07)
Are these Shas MK's born this stupid or do they have to work for it? Do they realize that they make themselves look like total morons and the world laughs at them? Personally, I haven't stopped laughing. Truly stupid people amuse me, however.
19. To #8 Thanks for always making me laugh.
M. Hartley ,   Atlanta, US   (06.21.07)
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20. To #2 and #4
Josh ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (06.21.07)
#2 - How on earth does haredim not being in the army have a negative impact on Israel's existence? And think before you write, perhaps about whether or not you're ignoring any other groups or activites that limit the size of our army, and about whether it's more our numbers or our policies that determine our security. #3 - How on earth is murder comparable to psychological therapy? Since when is talking about proposing legislation a crime? Why is this a hate crime, and legislation against alcohol abuse, for example, not? And if you really want to live your life according to modish Western values and fears of anti-Semitism, you've negated your own Jewish identity along with any reason to live in Israel. So why don't you go do your assimilating somewhere else? It will be easier and you won't bring the rest of us down with you.
21. To #11
Josh ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (06.21.07)
What does whether or not people choose to be gay have to do with it? Since when is therapy only for things you choose to afflict yourself with? Do alcoholics really decide want day "I want to be an alcoholic?" What about people with phobias, promiscuity issues, pedophiles, introverts? Of course not. Yet therapy exists for all of them. That said, I don't understand how this MK could propose to FORCE people to do therapy; that would never work. But for people who want it, it's really not relevant how they got into the situation. Anyway, there already ARE people doing such therapy of their own free will, albeit not in "centers" like this and without funding from any government. I agree that the way this MK presents his ideas makes him sound horrible and suggests to me that his motivations may stem from a personal dislike rather than from Judaism. But the points that there is therapy, which doesn't always work, but sometimes does (like other therapies), and that religious Jews should start addressing homosexuality in a constructive way instead of just complaining about it once they find it on their doorstep, stand.
22. #16 - no, what we have here in Israel is....
English Guy ,   is an Idiot   (06.21.07)
moronphobes. So please, stay in Londonistan, and don't come crying when your buses and trains keep blowing up by your muslim friends.
23. Kick rabbis out of the Knesset and
Moshe ,   Ariel   (06.21.07)
build rehab centers for haredim. Free Israel!!!!
24. Hey #16 - there are fears and then there are healthy fears
Josh ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (06.21.07)
Being phobic towards Muslims and Arabs is not a problem, it's an appropriate reaction to people who have been conquering and slaughtering and oppressing everyone around them for over 1000 years. Get the power-hungry genocidal maniacs to cut it out already, and then we won't have anything to be afraid of!
25. Zeev: Go Into Christian Rehab And Change YOUR Orientation
David ,   Marietta USA   (06.21.07)
Hey, most of my best friends are Christians. Whatever possessed you to choose to be a Jew in this day and age when obviously, religion is a choice? Oh, I forgot, you were "born" that way! Yeah, right.
26. It's been proven
Hamburger ,   Hamburg   (06.21.07)
It's been proven by sceintists that homosexuals have simething different about their brain structure. This guy should've done his homework before bringing up such primitive ideas! But then again - it will suffice for Shas electors...
27. # 8 Hey Rashid, glad to see that you are safe man!!!!
jan   (06.21.07)
28. #16, Better yet, center for Jew-Phobes such as yourself
Tamar ,   Jerusalem   (06.21.07)
29. Rehab Centers
ben ,   singapore   (06.21.07)
Cant these Shas MK think of something clever. In the first place how these kind became MP's. Honestly I have been thinking about these Parlimentarians. You see the MK's are under estimating the Gaza CROSSING situation which is more important.I am not saying that the gay issue is not- important but it has been such a distraction in the last one week. Oi Come On Man WAKE UP. REHAP CENTER FIRST FOR THE ISRAELI MK's. You MK want to make the gays AWARE ? I think they make better MP's ( SOME at LEAST ) ! Talents come mingled to abormination too. I wont be suprise if the REHAP CENTER are filled with RELIGIOUS GAYS from the CLOSETS ; - ) ~.At least these Gays COme out boldly and show their self, the religious gay hide inside and do more damage. Bot deserve REHABLITATION. There is a need to set up psychologist,psychiatrists and social workers for all, Gays, anti gays, religious, secular bla bla bla....and i wont be suprise these professional people also join the gays. There are everywhere, I better check my children too, very suspicious already. I am also at shock ! I need to drink beer now, what a head ache, I just returned home from my special investigation. I saw enough.!!!! I need to recover from my shock nerve. ben singapore : - ) ~
30. Way to go rashid, #8 !
josephus ,   rome   (06.21.07)
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