1. He should have...
hit him twice for such an insult.
Not only do these DOSSIM pray to God all day for nothing and receive everything from the state, their hypocrisy knows no bounds.
It is your religious fanaticism and abject corruption that is destroying my Israel.
Such a dichotomy! Calling himself 'orthodox' and following God's laws while leading the most corrupt sector of Israeli society.
| Asaf , |
Tx USA/Tel Aviv |
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2. Kol HaKavod, De Hartuch
Cohen should be put on trial for incitement.
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3. Things you cannot say in Israel
Unless you're a leftist, of course.
| Kyle , |
Southpark, CO, USA |
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(07.10.07) |
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4. re:#2 ??incitement
any time someone in israel (especially one who is on the right religiously or politically) says something someone doesn't like, they arrest him for "incitement". please explain to me how you can possibly "incite" when there is no one in the room besides you and the person you are speaking to?
actually, i think MK cohen simply said it as it is. free speech needs to be protects and de-hartuch should be severely punished.
| david , |
new haven usa |
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(07.10.07) |
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5. Can any one decipher the intent of MK Hendel
" Few are those who could restrain themselves from slapping"
What in the world is he talking about
can we extrapolate
Few are those who could restrain themselves when seeing a beautifull woman ??? and thus Rape is OK ???
Violence is inexcusable period.
I hope Mk Cohen will file Charges against DE Hartuch.
and certainly when MK Cohens words were taken conveiently out of context. De Hartuch Fully understood MK Cohens words that Judaism without Torah is Doomed.
Exactly what the Natzis wanted to do.
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6. Look like MK Cohen has forgotten bout the holocaust.
While i do not justify the slaping, looks like MK Cohen does not have a good understanding and has no respect for the victims of the holocaust and their families. What he needs to do is attend some holocaust related workshops (not the one offered in Iran) and then decide, once and for all, whether Mr. De Hartog is really worse the the Nazis.
| Rami , |
Nazareth, Israel |
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(07.10.07) |
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7. David # 4 Free speech ?
So if saying to a Jew , who lost 20 family members , that he is worser than germans , is free speech for you , you have also to allow negationist to tell their "truth" . No , free speech is limited , there are some things you can't say , and certainly not in Israel .
Charidim are too often insulting police officers with those "nice" names of 60+ years ago . It has to be stopped . Enough is enough .
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8. Shake hands and give a good example!
| enzo , |
london,uk |
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(07.10.07) |
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9. De Hartuch said to Cohen he was a BEAST
And as such needs to banned bfrom Knesset, even before the slap
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10. Amnon De Hartog
I don't care how many of your family perished in the Holocaust. As a lawyer you know better than to assault a person. Especially an elected member in the Knesset.
Free speech extends both ways. You are free to say what you want and when somebody saids something you don't like you are free to slap them?
It's time to put those types behind bars.
| Gee , |
Zikron Yaakov |
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(07.10.07) |
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11. MK Cohen
What MK Cohen did is so disgusting that he should be compelled to resign his Knesset seat. After all, look at the commotion that London's Mayor Livingston caused when he did something similar. But to be baited by a religous man- is beyond disgusting. Although De Hartog should not have struck the MK, I would never punish him for it and I hope that he will not suffer for this incident. MK Cohen brought dishonor to the Jewish people by his words.
| Mitch , |
Fort Lauderdale USA |
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(07.10.07) |
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12. Response to #5
Rape is OK in Israel if you are the President and sexual harrasment is perfect if you are an MK. And of course, if you are corrupt you are automatically in the government or the opposition.
| Mitch , |
Fort Lauderdale USA |
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(07.10.07) |
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13. LIKE... ONE BLT ON TOASTED RYE...
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14. 6 Rami ,You are wrong
Pro rata more Haradim were murdered in the holocust. So that cannot be used as an excuse by Amnon De Hartog.
His actions were disgusting.
And just think about this for a moment. What was MK Yacov Cohen saying, it was that De Hartog was killing the Torah and I put it to you, that is something Hitler would have been proud of.
What would really be nice now, especially as we are in the 3 weeks is that the two kiss and make up.
Because at present the Yetzer Hara is the only winner
| S Judah , |
London |
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(07.10.07) |
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15. He's lucky
If it had been me,he would have a broken nose,not a slap in the face.
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16. Vyle actually said something sensible (3)
The Left pulls this "Nazi" biz regularly. If not calling people Nazis, they prattle about apartheid.
While the Haredi leaders fill me with scorn--they being godless and yet constantly claiming to be "trembling before god"--it is a fact that the Left should be shunned as well.
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17. MK Cohen said that his father never hit him so hard.
Maybe his father never hit him hard enough.
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18. Human nature and human rights
An MK can behave in a grossly insensitive and foul mouthed manner, which may be even criminal, and an attorney, who is a Treasury official, can lose control when confronted with savage provocation.
What's worse? I think the MK behaviour.
Who behaved better afterwards? I think De Hartog.
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19. Typical
Alot of "turn the other cheek" responses here.
When will the milksops,bleeding hearts ever wake up?
Dialogue doesn't work often and I guess it didn't work in this case.
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20. # 7 is mine
| charles , |
petach tikva |
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(07.10.07) |
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21. Some flags should not fly
B"H
Why is it a worse offense to fly the Syrian flags in Jerusalem to welcome the Syrian President?
Can we get the Syrian flags out of there, especially since the Syrian regime did not desire their presence there alongside the Israeli flag?
Why focus on the little insult instead of the big insult? Yes more sensitivity is needed. But this is the least of the insults I see being thrown out there. I would focus on removing the big insults first.
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22. Double Standards
If the situation were reversed and the UTJ MK was the one who did the slapping, all the talkbackers here would be demanding his execution.
De Hartog is the aggressor, not the victim. All you who are cheering what he did, should be ashamed of yourselves.
| Kyle , |
Southpark, CO, USA |
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(07.10.07) |
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23. #15
YOU ARE A COMPLETE MORON.I WOULD LOVE TO GET IT ON WITH YOU .
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24. 4 - Yes, Incitement
Cohen approached De Hartuch with the aim to provoke. Now that De Hartuch has apologized (he shouldn't have) let's see if Cohen is capable of introspection and will apologize for his callous, stupid and provocative remarks. If not, any severe punishment should be meted out to him. Free speech doesn't mean inflammatory speech, not in Israel and not in any other free society.
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25. They use it in every ocasion
Many times the haredi MKs through the Nazi comparison at people to get their way.
The slapping is not justified either, but they show no respect to all the millions of people who have very good reasons to be sensitive about this issue!
| Hamburger , |
Hamburg |
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(07.10.07) |
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26. to #24 and #7 - free speech
free speech is not dependant on whether you like or dislike what is being said. in the U.S. we have legal protection of free speech. i hope that israel should have it too. the only exceptions (in U.S. constutional law) to free speech are words that will directly cause death and injury. for example, a call to violently overthrow the government or a call of "fire" in a crowded movie theater. otherwise -we are free to say what we please. calling someone an S.O.B. is protected speech.
| david , |
new haven, usa |
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27. "CROCODILE TEARS"
It took him a while, but shrewd lawyer DeHartuch finally figured out how to turn himself from an agressor to a "victim."--A typical lawyer's trick, like that black murserer in the United Staes.
| bill handel , |
brooklyn, usa |
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(07.10.07) |
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28. #23..Donny
It's easy to be a hard case on the internet,isn't it?
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29. Free Speech or Not...
I'm one of the strongest advocates of and for Free Speech. Free Speech even includes allowance for "hate speech".
But with that said, I also believe where one exercises there Free Speech, if it is hate speech, then don't be surprised by the consequences. In otherwords, if a person was to call my wife or mother a "Bit**", granted you have the Free Speech right to say it, yet I'm going to exercise my right to knock their teeth out.
So I applaud this Attorney Amnon De Hartog for slapping MK Yacov Cohen.
Hartog should not apologize for Cohen deserved it. Maybe next time Cohen will THINK FIRST before opening his fool mouth.
| Darren , |
Tampa, FL USA |
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(07.10.07) |
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30. To #23 Regarding You're Calling #15 a Moron
You said to #15 the following:
"YOU ARE A COMPLETE MORON.I WOULD LOVE TO GET IT ON WITH YOU . - donny (07.10.07)"
All #15 said was this:
" He's lucky. If it had been me,he would have a broken nose,not a slap in the face. - Nemesis
Since #15 is right in what he said and I applaud his statement, it is not he who is the true moron, but you Donnie".
Donnie? Is that a girl's name?
| Darren , |
Tampa, FL USA |
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