you have a point.you are a hard case on the internet.I am a genuine hard case.like I said earlier would love to kick your teeth in.the i.d.f. trained me well

They need to bring back the duel. If you insult a man or his family, then the man calls you out. Pistols at 20 paces. It might make people think twice before they open their fool mouths to exercise their "free speech" & incite with their words.

CONVIENTLY MISSING IN HIS (DE HARTOG'S) SELF SERVING APPOLIGY IS THE DISCRIMINATION THAT IS AN IMPERATIVE FOR AN ATTORNEY;THE REAL POINT: HIS RECOGNITION OF THE DISTINCTION THAT WAS MADE BETWEEN THE DESTRUCTION OF"THE SOUL",AS OPPOSED TO THE BODY ! WHO'S THE ATTORNEY/PROFESSIONAL MOUTH PIECE ? BEFORE HE SLAPS,HE'D DO WELL TO LISTEN ! HE REACTED RATHER THAN RESPONDED,SAD ! WHERE WAS HE DURING GUSH KTIF,DURING THE CONTEMPORARY UDENREICH ? HALLOCAUST SENSITIVITY,YEAH RIGHT !

if you are such a big man,as you seem to think you are why hide behind a name like NEMESIS?

Ok,Donny,you win..this is not the place to be childish,either one of us. I'm sure there are people that have more intelligent comments to make.

MK Cohen used fighting words. He got a fight. In my area use of fighting words gets a $500 US fine whether they lead to a fine or not.

AS NEMESIS SAID IT IS EASY TO BE A HARD CASE ON THE INTERNET.YES YOUR WIFE AND MOTHER ARE BITCHES BUT YOU ARE NOT GOING TO KNOCK ANYBODYS TEETH OUT.THAT IS MY JOB.

you are a menace because you lack discipline. The Haredim are at least as violent as Israel's hard Left, and their leadership is at least as corrupt. These sheep-like followers are a growing source of problems in Israel. No, MK Cohen should not have been slapped, but he should have been insulted and ridiculed. Cohen deserves no respect, and you, a dupe, and a violent, uncontrollable one at that, deserve no respect either.

Most kapos also lost family members. Losing family members does not make one immune from criticism. Virtually all Ashkenazim lost relatives.

Nemesis (in Greek, Νέμεσις), also called Rhamnousia/Rhamnusia ("the goddess of Rhamnous"), at her sanctuary at Rhamnous, north of Marathon, in the Greek mythology was the spirit of divine retribution against those who succumb to hubris, vengeful fate personified as a remorseless goddess.

To #23: #15 IN SUPPORT of the lawyer who slapped Cohen said this: "He's lucky. If it had been me,he would have a broken nose,not a slap in the face. - Nemesis" Now #23 let's look at your response to #115 for SUPPORTING the lawyer: To "#15 - YOU ARE A COMPLETE MORON.I WOULD LOVE TO GET IT ON WITH YOU . - donny" So your comment to #15 is that by what he (#15) said (wrote), that made you angry enough to call him a "moron" saying you would like to "Get IT ON" with him. Your logic escapes me. You are acting somewhat JUST LIKE the lawyer albeit at least the lawyer had legitimate provocation to strike Cohen. You on the other hand threaten violence without legitimate provocation. There was no threat or provocative comparison made by #15 as to you or your family. #15 was merely supporting the lawyer for his act (response) at what Cohen said about him. In otherwords, you call #15 a moron wanting to get it on where #15 is supporting the lawyer; therefore being just like the lawyer in that sense. You are just imitating the lawyer. But the lawyer has a good excuse for striking which you do not have. The lawyer was personally attacked. You were not... Between #23 AND #15 it appears with the warped logic being used, it is not #15 who is the moron.

#37 said: To: #29 "AS NEMESIS SAID IT IS EASY TO BE A HARD CASE ON THE INTERNET.YES YOUR WIFE AND MOTHER ARE BITCHES BUT YOU ARE NOT GOING TO KNOCK ANYBODYS TEETH OUT.THAT IS MY JOB. - donnie" Yes Nemesis is right...you, Donnie, are playing the hard case and tough guy on the internet. Donnie...the only job you probably really have is giving when you're on your knees.

he is a productive member of our community & Shul, he is not a hot-head, and he is one of the last people you would expect to fly off the handle. That said, it seems clear to me that he really lost control when he heard the German connection. It is sad that this happened, but I would hope he won't have to pay for what he clearly agrees was a very serious error. While I straddle the fence on the Religious Zionist vs. Haredi issues, I really think that a Frum guy with either type of beanie should refrain from calling the other "worse than the Germans" - regardless of the issue. It is not a question of freedom of speech, but rather of extremely poor taste. De Hartog blew it bigtime, but given the circumstances, I hope he doesn't have to pay a heavy price for his mistake. Chaim

BEING A MORON IS IN THE EYE OF THE BEHOLDER. DONNY IS MY NICKNAME.I AM VETERAN OF ELITE IDF UNIT AND COULD BASH YOUR HEAD AND NEMESIDS HEAD TOGETHER UNTIL YOU BOTH GROW UP AND STOP THREATENING PEOPLE.LIKE I SAID BEFORE,I WAS TRAINED VERY WELL.

I THANK YOU FOR YOUR GRACIOUS WORDS.VIOLENCE IS NEVER A SOLUTION IN WORDS AND DEEDS.I SEND MY RESPECT TO YOU AND GOOD WISHES FOR THE FUTURE

liked your post about the duel.in final analysis,two wrongs never did make a right .haven knows theres enough tensions and violence in this part of the world without adding to it .although mk cohens words were unfortunate , an assault is an assault is an assault. de hartog had no right to lift his hands up.as an attorney,especially,he should not break the law.

I wonder what the reaction would be in the press if the tables were turned with the chareidi MK hitting attorney De Hartog. Would the Mk's from both sides of the political divide rush to cohen's defense? i highly doubt it. Cohen would have been branded a fanatic violent extremist and there would be calls for him to resign from the Kenneset from both sides of the political divide

Whew..guess I opened a can of worms there,didn't I ? With what I thought was a simple statement. Thanks for the support. Maybe what just happened between Donny and myself is what is happening between the Israelis and the Pals..everybody has to be the tough guy.

One more reason to make Israel a secular Jewish state.

"I don't care how many of your family perished in the Holocaust. As a lawyer you know better than to assault a person. Especially an elected member in the Knesset. " For saying this you should be slapped too. Being a Knesset Member demands obligations toward decency and honor. Cohen seems to be lacking both.

I applaud your analysis.you hit the nail square on the head.its a case of violence breeding or begetting further violence. in israel, people always shout and insult each other..its the culture .but to raise ones hands up is not acceptable here,and jail awaits for those who disobey as i know to my cost.so you all need to cut the insults and chill out, get a life

dear sk,i neither seek nor need your respect and you have some valid points,although the haredim can also be violent,they have a way to go before they can match the hard left as you call it.i can accept your insults but i do not agree that i am violent or that the idf lack dicipline.in de hartogs situation,he should have laughed and walked away.please search your soul before you accuse others

dear sk,i think you have got it wrong.i can accept insults and not respond in a violent manner which indicates,perhaps dicipline,more than you will know.why are you so anti haredi.whats the story ?

Ynet does it again, here is how the entire conversation went. The argument heated up when De-Hartuch called Cohen an "animal," and Cohen retorted by saying, "You're worse than the Germans; they wanted to destroy the body, while you want to destroy our soul." De-Hartuch said, "I'll smack you," the MK then said, "I'm waiting for that," and De-Hartuch delivered. MK Cohen fell to the floor, and was treated by medics on the site for bruises and high blood pressure. He was then taken to the hospital, upon the recommendation of the Knesset's doctor, where his condition was said to be stable.

Cohen's son Yehuda told Army Radio, "Here is a chance for the justice system to Israel to prove that it does not have a double standard. I remember a few years ago when someone threw tea on MK Yael Dayan of Labor - and received three years in prison!"

since when does a knesset member need to be decnt and honourable? SEND THE HAPPY SLAPPER TO JAIL.

Well I'm glad you got around to thanking me for if you hadn't I was going to come over there and beat you up!!!!! :) You stated that what happened between you and Donny is what is happening between the Israelis and the Pals...everybody has to be the tough guy. I'm not so sure about that for between the Israelis & Pals, the Pals act the tough guy doing tough guy things and the Israelis withdraw, give up land, release prisoners, fall on the sword when human shields are killed, hold "peace" marches, and hold "human rights" ralllies. If Israel wants to be the tough guy, then they need to do more than talk tough, for example, they need to carpet bomb and they need to launch the helicopter gunships when Hamas has a funeral procession. Such a funeral procession is a GOLD MINE for killing Hamas terrorists and their followers. Time for the West and Israel to take off the gloves and fight to win...kill without mercy against the enemy making no apology either to the enemy (Islamic fascists) or the leftist in the EU, Geneva, Madrid, America, and/or Israel itself. There is war and rumors of war for this summer. Israel needs to get tougher and the leadership that Israel has now is leadership in name only. God forbid if Israel gets into another war with Olmert still in power even with Donny and his IDF supernatural special forces training. But I'm sure before things gets too tough, Olmert will give away the Golan Heights. I wouldn't be surprised if Olmert gives away East Jerusalem as well. But that is just my opinion for what it is worth. I personally would like to see Bibi as Prime Minister. I hope for Israel's sake BiBi is in power as Prime Minister before the next war occurs.

As I stated in a related article about this just moments ago, there is a complete double standard when it comes to what the left and right may say in Israel. Firstly, this Attorney has a consistent record of Religion bashing. Secondly, it was mentioned perviously, (on Ynet) that he called the bearded Hassidic MK a BEAST. So who instigated the fight? He did! Secondly, why are leftists permitted to compare right wing Jews to Nazis, yet when the table is turned they get all hot under the collar? Bottom line is, he started the fight, committed an act of violence and should be arrested for his actions. The same way right wing activists would be arrested were they to lift a finger to a left wing member of knesset.

I agree...Israel in the past didn't used to just talk,they just acted. Now it seems the politicians are more worried about themselves than the good of the country. I also agree that Bibi is needed now...soonest. They must not give away the Golan for some Arab promise of peace..we all know what their promises are worth.