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Iran attack could be 2nd Holocaust, Gingrich warns
Yitzhak Benhorin
Published: 20.07.07, 19:56
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31. what is coming for Israel? J.R. Church who...
Rivka   (07.21.07)
publishes "Prophecy in the News" newsletter and magazine believes Isaiah chapter 17and Ezekiel chapter 38 wars between Israel and Syria, Magog (Russia), Iran and a lot of other Moslem nations is very close to happening. When Magog and his band attack Israel from the north, those armies will be almost entirely destroyed by an earthquake in northern Israel and a plague like nuclear heat (eyes melt, etc). America or Canada will also be attacked because Gog of Magog will also go UP (North) to the land of unwalled villages to take a spoil in cattle. There are few cattle in Israel, so that has to be America or Canada. ISRAEL AND AMERICA WILL WIN. Damascus will be destroyed. Iran will be defeated. HOWEVER, after that, America will collapse, the notable horn of Daniel ch. 8 will break. DO NOT FEAR WHAT IS COMING. ISRAEL WILL WIN. After that another war will happen in a few years the Messiah will deliver Israel from, after many people are killed. They will watch from heaven if they love Hashem.
32. #15. Shir, is something wrong?
Persian CAT   (07.21.07)
I advise you to seek medical help for your condition. You are advocating terrorism anainst Iran by admiring that notorious Zionist terror group Irgun just because some Iranian creep found you creepy enough to follow you around?!!! There must be a name for your condition but I can't think of it now.
33. Newt is looking for deep pockets
Persian CAT   (07.21.07)
You know what I'm talking about. The American people are not going to contribute to this poster boy of corruption. So, who's left? You tell me. Hosein Obama on the other hand KNOWS he is not going to be nominated, so he's decide to line his pockets buy making a couple of "speeches" about you know who. I'm just saying.
34. to #13 You are wrong!
jason white ,   afula,israel   (07.21.07)
We need to use the neutron bomb on teheran and qom. The main iranian military bases should be destroyed.
35. GUILIANI vs GINGRICH
RCA ,   USA   (07.21.07)
I have always liked both Gingrich and Giuliani. Both are bright and fiesty arm twisters who usually know what they want and have the skills to get it that done. One distinguished himself on Capitol Hill and the other distinguished himself in the jungle which were the streets of New York at the time. Both men are pragmatic, yet both have different styles. Guiliani has the ability to see both sides of an issue. Gingrich is more of an ideologue. Guiliani will not tolerate nonsense, while Gingrich will strike a deal. As Mayor , Guiliani was closer to the people. As a Senator, Gingrich had a select constituency. Up to now, I have been supporting Guiliani. Untill Gingrich throws his hat in the ring, he is not in the game and can talk all he wants. If Gingrich enters the race and it comes down to Guiliani VS Gingrich I will have to see them fight it out and then decide who gets my vote. Gingrich, I feel can be too conservative for his own good. Guiliani, for that matter, has a few obstacles that can be made political hay out of by his enemies which I think should be irrelevent. But such is politics. The only Democrat I could ever support in the race would be Joe Lieberman, and he is not running. Hillary would be a disaster for the US. The secret service charged with protecting her while at the White House as First Lady can't stand her. She wasn't called the "ICE LADY" for nothing. Obama is probably just a nice guy who happens to make convincing speeches, but has no record, no experience, a questionable Islamic background, and plenty of charm and money. How that will play on the world stage is anyones guess. If it comes down to Guiliani vs Gingrich there will be some hope for the future.
36. No I´m not a racist
Shir ,   Finland   (07.21.07)
I only have problem with Iranians. Unfortunately not all israelis see through you and what kind of people you are. And # 23 I really couldn´t care less of how many girls you get. No classy girls date iranians. Readers, well Jewish readers should pay close attention to these iranians writing here. They live outside Iran, perhaps have even had to leave their country because of the government. But are they dissidents? NO. Do they criticize Iranian government? NO. And these people have got no reason to be afraid, they mostly live outside Iran. They only try to make excuses for iranian politics and government. And you STILL can´t see through them.
37. oh great #25, #28
Shir ,   Finland   (07.21.07)
When it´s about palestinians, americans are doing nothing but inciting israelis to violence, even though palestinians don´t have the weapons to destroy Israel. When it´s about Iran, that is a REAL THREAT to all israelis and jews, then we get these naive dumb americans telling us how they are no threat at all. And of course, israelis are naive enough to believe them.
38. #4 and other American posters
phillip ,   NYC USA   (07.21.07)
Why are Americans so invested into attacking Iran now? The Jewish American posters are more concerned about Isreal than America. Americans need to feel concern for America. Not a land 4 thousand miles away.
39. Why would a nuclear Iran be any worse than a nuclear Israel?
Apartheid ,   Boston USA   (07.21.07)
The current regime tends to run off at the mouth, but its president's threats are as real as Israeli leaders monotonously proclaimed desire for peace. In reality the Iranians never do anything rash or stupid, while rashness and stupidity are the hallmark's of Israeli policy. Hasn't Israel already come perilously close to launching nuclear weapons at least once?
40. #24 Like cindy sheehan, u represent 0000.1% of us voters
Get a life will ya. ,   USA   (07.21.07)
41. #38 But if we don't take on the land 4,000 miles away there
won,t be an America ,   Look@the big picture   (07.21.07)
42. And of course ur terrorist leaders would never think of
lining their pockets ,   with corrupt money!   (07.21.07)
43. #32 your medical condition is called STUPIDITY!!
osama bil laden ,   will kill you all!!!   (07.21.07)
44. #39 Close only counts in horseshoes!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(07.21.07)
45. another idiot
Shir ,   Finland   (07.21.07)
AR from USA wrote: "If you believe in what is writtin in the bible you will see out of the major powers it was the iranians (persians) who were the good guys in that book. " Really? Cause in the book I read, it says that it was the Jewish queen Esther that saved Jews FROM PERSIANS who wanted to persecute all Jews. King Xerxes chose Esther to be his wife and queen. Soon after this the king gave Haman the Agagite, his prime minister, power and authority. When Haman would ride his horse down the street all the people would bow to him except for Mordecai, who would bow to no-one but his God. This enraged Haman, and he plotted against the Jews, making a plan to kill and extirpate all Jews throughout the Persian empire. He gained the king's approval for this plan in exchange for ten thousand silver talents. Esther told the king of Haman's plan to massacre the Jews in the Persian Empire, and acknowledged her own Jewish ethnicity. The king was enraged and ordered Haman to be hanged on the gallows he had built for Mordecai. The king then appointed Mordecai as his prime minister, and gave the Jews the right to defend themselves against any enemy. Not because it was the King´s will, but because of his Jewish wife. Now, what Bible are you talking about? AR: "They dont hate america or israel they hate what their governments do." Okay. So where are all the iranian dissidents? I see none here. I´ve never met one in or outside Finland. And there are lots of Iranians here. More than any other Middle-Eastern muslim people. "its not racist iran has the largest jewish community in the middle east outside of israel and for the most part they are happy to be there. " Some of them would certainly disagree: Under the Sassanid dynasty (226-642 C.E) Jews suffered intermittent oppression and persecution. The invasion by Arab Muslims in 642 C.E. terminated the independence of Persia, installed Islam as the state religion, and made a deep impact on the Jews by changing their sociopolitical status. Throughout the 19th century, Jews were persecuted and discriminated against. Sometimes whole communities were forced to convert. During the 19th century, there was considerable emigration to the Land of Israel, and the Zionist movement spread throughout the community. Before the revolution, there were some 20 Jewish schools functioning throughout the country. In recent years, most of these have been closed down. In the remaining schools, Jewish principals have been replaced by Muslims. The curriculum is Islamic, and Persian is forbidden as the language of instruction for Jewish studies. Saturday is no longer officially recognized as the Jewish sabbath, and Jewish pupils are compelled to attend school on that day. There are three synagogues in Teheran, but since 1994, there has been no rabbi in Iran, and the bet din does not function. At least 13 Jews have been executed in Iran since the Islamic revolution 19 years ago, most of them for either religious reasons or their connection to Israel. For example, in May 1998, Jewish businessman Ruhollah Kakhodah-Zadeh was hanged in prison without a public charge or legal proceeding, apparently for assisting Jews to emigrate. And don´t try to fool people by saying Iranian Jewish community is the largest in Middle-East outside Israel. Cause regardless of that there are few Jews in Iran. That just means that there are very few or none Jews in most Middle-Eastern countries. Does this sound HAPPY to you? You can call me stupid and dumb all you want AR. Cause you´re the one who ends up looking stupid. You just made it very clear, that we can´t trust americans.
46. 2nd Holocaust will be 2nd Coming. No Worry
john ,   nz   (07.21.07)
47. #39
t.i ,   Israel   (07.21.07)
Before acussing, let's have look at the map, many Islamic countries surronding us, without a strong army, we are will be vansihed. secondly, we are in front line agianst terrorism, we didn't invade other countries because we liked it but only because we were attacked by the terrorists everyday. I'm invite to read about 'the war of attrition', the efforst to get real peace between us and palestinians. I'm not say that my country didn't make mistakes but the source of the problem is Jewish entity in the middle east, the religion component is dominated since the Oslo accords. look if you prefer to overlook again, you will be attaked again, after saturaday comes sunday- this is the radical Islamic schedule's.
48. Philip #38 Since you asked...
Rivkah   (07.21.07)
In the Bible, Jacob blessed the two half Egyptian sons of Joseph and told Manasseh he would become a great nation (America) and Ephraim he would become a multitude of nations with the gates of their enemies (British Commonwealth). Notice the Great Seals of America and Britain are both half Egyptian with a Pyramid on one and a Sphinx on the other. How is it that the mostly white European descendants are part of ancient Israel? When ancient Israel was taken into captivity by the Assyrians, they escaped when the Assyrian army attacked Judah. They escaped over the Caucasus Mountains into Europe and Russia and became known as Caucasians. Thus there is a holy biblical tie of America (Manaseh), the British Commonwealth (Ephraim) and Israel in the Middle East. The Lord wishes for Israel to prosper and to be guarded by other sons of Jacob. The Bible says that God told Abraham that all the world would be blessed in his seed. When the Messiah comes in glory, he will judge the nations on how they treated the Jews. Do you want America to be a goat nation or a sheep nation in regard to how it treated the Jews? Christians must become Jews in their hearts to be saved, Jesus said; but few do. They have prefered to hate and murder the Jews, historically. Is the covenant with the Jews still valid? I believe it is because God blinded the eyes of the Jews, but not of other peoples. All other people must know the NAME of God to be saved (Jesus, Yeshua). Jews who are Jews in their hearts worship a title of God: Adonai or Hashem. If America becomes like Nazi Germany (many parts are) in persecuting the Jews, America will become a goat nation under judgment. American is the only friend Israel has at times in the UN. Why else with all the fornication and abortions and criminality and corruption do you think America has escaped judgment so far? Sadly, there is so much anti semitism in America today, it will not be long before judgment comes.
49. #38 Phillip cont'd...
Rivkah   (07.21.07)
I forgot to answer your question about why America is concerned about the Iran issue. That is a real problem because after Iran is defeated, America will collapse into four countries. Daniel in the Bible in chapter 8 of the Authorized King James Bible said a he-goat (UN) comes from the ends of the earth to the west and touches not the ground (airplanes, ships) and it has a notable horn (USA) between its eyes. The notable horn could not be Alexander because Greece was not the westernmost nation and Alexander did not have airplanes. The he-goat attacks a ram with two horns (Media Persia or Iraq Iran) in great anger. When both are defeated, the notable horn breaks and becomes four countries. Isaiah chapter 17, Ezekiel ch 38, and Daniel ch 8 and Ezekiel ch 32 all describe the same war and its aftermath, in my opinion. The judgment of America for its antisemitism and other offenses to God begins to happen when the notable horn breaks. We should have less concern about defeating Iran in my opinion than in pinpoint strikes at nuclear production sites because America's fate is tied to Iran's. If Iran falls, America falls. That may be because there are 25,000 Jews and many crypto Christians in Iran God wants to protect. The war that is coming is NOT Armageddon. That comes later. You will know the world is three and a half years from Armageddon when a world leader goes into rebuilt temple in Jerusalem and says he is god when he/she is not. That may be sooner than you think because the NEW ENPI signed by the WEU (TEN nation military wing of EU), the EU, the Arab Alliance, and Israel in 2007 may be the Covenant with Death of Daniel since it is seven years long and will be reviewed mid point, just as the covenant with death is. Make peace with God, Phillip. Make peace with God. What will be will be. Take heart: a third of the people in the world will survive the coming wars. Only two thirds wil die. If you die, you can watch the events from heaven much more comfortably than from earth if you love the Lord and belong to his family and not to Satan's.
50. Iranians is the source for all the problems in Middle-East
Shir ,   Finland   (07.21.07)
It´s not just the current government. For decades they have financed any organization seeking the complete destruction of Jews. PLO, Hamas, Hizbollah, you name it. Iranians are responsible for all the lost lives of israelis in suicide bombings, ever since Hamas was founded. They would have neither money nor weapons to kill Israelis without the help of Iranians. Iranians have blood on their hands. Jewish blood. In fact there would be neither Hamas nor Hizbollah without Iranian backup. And what about the 1979 Hostage Crisis? Nobody forced them to do what they did. Was there an opposition in Iran trying to get you free americans? They humiliated you in front of the whole world, they desecrated your honor and you learned nothing? I saw a documentary of the whole thing, and it was a sad thing to watch. You care about people who have no regard for your lives. Guess that´s your choice then.
51. Thanks to Jimmy Carter for the situation in Iran today!!!!!!
Ayatollah Kohmenei   (07.21.07)
52. For #38, #47/48
Sadhasiv ,   Washington DC, USA   (07.21.07)
The difference is that Israel developped its nuclear weapons technology in-house, while Iran bought its from the thuggish mohajir A.Q. Khan of Pakistan. Pakistan is also known to have stolen (from West) and bought (from Red China) its nuclear weapons technology rather than developping it in-house. Not entirely tangential to it that India (like Israel) developped its nuclear weapons technology in-house.
53. Gingrich is nothing but a blowhard. His sweeping
Apartheid ,   Boston USA   (07.21.07)
generalities sound impressive to the uninformed, but he really doesn't know what he is talking about.
54. The existing nuclear powers are ignoring their obligations,
Apartheid ,   Boston USA   (07.21.07)
under the non-proliferation treaty, to reduce their nuclear weapons to Zero. That is the real problem. As long as their nuclear arsenals exist, other powers will be able to beg, borrow, buy or steal what they need to embark on the development of nuclear weapons. No one except the US developed nuclear weapons "in house." The others all relied more or less on previous nuclear powers. The Israelis got help from the French. Destroying Iran's Nuclear capabilities by military attack would only be justified if the existing powers were well on their way to eliminating their own weapons. Only then could a new nuclear power not be tolerated. Now is an opportune time to eliminate nuclear weapons. At this point in time the balance of power among nations would remain pretty much as it is now with or without nuclear weapons.
55. Shir (45) you are UTTERLY confused and incoherent.
sk ,   USA   (07.22.07)
First off, if you want to cite Jewish texts to blast the Persians, you could do much better blasting the Egyptians, no? It's interesting that Feiglin thinks, apparently based largely on the Bible, that there will never be peace with Arabs, but peace with Iranians is possible. Second, as a matter of history and ethnicity, Iran is much less wedded to non-Arab influences than any of Israel's other neighbors. Third, Iran does have some history of mullahs NOT running the country. Khomeini was actually quite radical in his rejection of this idea. And, unlike the usual Muslim country, there is some evidence that the typical Iranian not only hates the mullahocracy but also is willing to die to protest it. This cannot be construed as a Western separation of mosque and state, but it does somewhat lean in that direction. Iran's big problem was the invasion of Islam. This happened to Egypt, of course, but Egypt was fully Arabized. Fourth, it is ludicrous for you to single out the Iranians in your country, when Muslims throughout Europe (and in the US) are causing the same problems. May I suggest that you have such a rosy view of other Muslims because you do not bump into them very often? You complain about how Iranians don't denounce Iranian bad behavior. Right, like your blessed Pals (or any other Arabs) have that habit?! Fifth, in no way am I suggesting that the US (or Israel) should "partner" with Iran regarding anything. No, I think regime change is URGENT--and I'm not interested in making the regime change bloodless, either. Shir, it's time you look around and grow up.
56. Apartheid wants the West to disarm so that Islam can triumph
sk ,   USA   (07.22.07)
You see, the one advantage of nukes is that they allow even the pitiful French to have a capability against the Islamic enemy.
57. marc, #28
liraz ,   u.s.   (07.22.07)
your passion for what you believe in is noted. sadly, you don't realize that it's people who believe as you do who are a greater threat to the jews than iran could ever be. speaking of a second holocaust? we are being wiped out faster by your ilk than any other kind. please leave us alone. it's bad enough that you've adulterated our torah to suit your own fancies. shalom.
58. #30...
liraz ,   u.s.   (07.22.07)
and who, would you say, is this little horn?
59. #25 Roya
(07.22.07)
quote "..Ahmadinejad is against Zionism, but hasn't threatened war.. it's a complete misquote, here is proof:... " The problem is not that pawn Ahmaghinejad .. the problem is the whole ani-Israel and anti-human Iranian regim which is looking for Islamic supermacy in the world. Iran hasn't threatened war?! hasn't Iran threatened war against Israel? Who established Hizbollah ?who ordered Hizbollah to attack Israel? who is ordering Syria for an attack on Israel? Why has the Iranians have been teaching hatred toward Jews and Israel for 30 years to their children and in the media? Why is Iran inviting neo-nazis and all kind of international facist to Iran and giving them a signal that Iran will help and fund them financially if they use more aniti-semitism propaganda? Ahmaghinejad is just the speaker of the Iranian fascist regim. you Iranians support your fascist regim and you are as evil as Ahmadineja. You are trying to justify these fascists' actions and words becuase you have the dream of conquuring the world. The Shia terrorists who are killing Sunnies in Iraq and destroying the country are trained in Iran. Iran funds Hamas and suicide bombings against Israeli people. You don't even believe in the sanctity of life and kill other Moslesm because they are just different than you. Iranian fascist have too much oil money and money in the hands of evil people does not result in their people having better lives but is making them feel they have the ability to stablish Islamic rule in the world and change the whole world into a replica of Iran where the only thing they can do is injustice, stoning of women, prostitution, child executions, putting journalist and university students to jail for smallests complains. ...etc Its not only about Ahmadinejad's repeated announced plans for destruction of Israel, its also about many Iranian leaders saying the same words and actions for many years, and in so much support that Iranian people show for this fascism and repeated threats of their beloved government against Israel. Iranians support this fascsit becuase of their religious believes, the same way that supported killing of Iraqi women and children for eight years when Iran and Iraq were fighting and Iranian leaders kept saying that they accept peace with Iraq was against their religious belives and that killing Iraqi people was ok becuase Iraqi people were infidels. Iranians won't care about killing Israelis or Jews when their leaders tell them they are infidels and should be killed. Israel must defend itself against its enemies with all its strength or...
60. 2nd. holocaust
Richard Hanthorn ,   Phoenix, AZ - USA   (07.22.07)
If the Muslims would lay down their arms there would be peace in the middle east. If Israel would lay down their arms there would be no Israel. Dave
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