1. thank you israil believe me thank you israil
| rashid , |
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2. Israel agreed to tighten the Gaza's siege !
As Israel has full control on the Rafah crossing, as well as all other ground, sea and air routes, it is obvious that moving the crossing to Al-Oja is just tightening of the siege.
Then, why imports -including humanitarian supplies- are not allowed from Egypt ? Rafah Crossing has a terminal for the crossing of merchandise, but the agreement (AMA) states that Rafah Crossing may be used only for exports. Exports via Rafah are of secondary importance, at best, because most of the exports from Gaza are intended for Israel or for Israeli ports for transport to third countries.
http://www.btselem.org/english/Gaza_Strip/Rafah_Crossing.asp
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3. Let them back in? For what? To kill you?
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5. rashid, we were all worried about you...
Luckily, you didn't die of dehydration in the Sinai.
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6. Al-Oja means the twisted
.. and a twisted move it is, in many ways. Israel creted the humanitarian crisis on the Rafah crossing, and is now 'humanely' offering to solve it, albeit for her own interest. This move will guarantee full control over movement and access to the occupied territories, since Rafah was the only direct land route outside Gaza, not crossing Israel...
| Gazan , |
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7. Sk & Rashid, the love Affair Continiues.........
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8. Has Fatah taken over Israel? And the White House too?
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9. #6 YOU WILL ALWAYS FIND A WAY TO BLAME ISRAEL
FOR YOUR OWN MISGIVINGS AND DESTRUCTIVE DEEDS, IT'S IN YOUR NATURE NOT TO ACCEPT ANY RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR OWN ACTIONS, EVERYTHING IS THE FAULT OF THE JEWS ACCORDING TO YOUR LOGIC, SO WHY BOTHER EVEN COMMENTING WHEN WE ALREADY KNOW WHAT YOU THINK
| David P. , |
Central Coast, USA |
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10. #9 David P, then don't comment!
There are only two crossings for people into and out of Gaza; Erez in the north and Rafah in the south. Rafah was the only crossing, commercial and pedestrian, that Israel didn't have *direct* control over, although they did receive live video feeds of all that went on.
Now, Israel has complete control over all crossings (sea, air, ground) into and out of Gaza, so how the hell can we NOT blame Israel for our "misgivings" as you inappropriately called them.
6500 stranded civilians in the desert heat of the Sinai with no permission to go back to Egypt or to enter Gaza because there are 30-40 wanted men among them, 30 reported deaths, 5 incidents of pregnant women giving birth in deplorable conditions to non-citizen babies, are those newborns a threat to Israel's security? Is that humane? Is that even human?
Don't get me wrong though, that dog Mubarak is just as much to blame as his owner Olmert is.
| Khalid , |
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11. Let's see how many censors protect Jew-hating Arabs ...
It's amazing. I could write almost anything about the Haredim, and I get posted. But when it comes to Muslim killers of Jews, well that's another story. I guess I'll have to wait until an observant Jew takes on the censor role later today or tomorrow.
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12. Allowed freshly trained terrorists back in?
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13. #10 - Khalid, ask yourself why don't your brothers want you
Not the Lebanese, not the Jordanians, not the Egyptians... Nobody wants the Palestinians around.
C'mon. Stop blaming Israel. Look at your own conflict resolution style and your anger-managment issues first, before you blame others.
If you care for your own, show it. Use your money to improve the lot of your women and children, instead of using it for more weapons to kill Jews.
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14. Hey Rashid, you've very quiet, man. What's happening?
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15. #10 "LIVE VIDEO FEEDS OF ALL THAT WENT ON"
I guess those live video feeds, which are in fact delayed, didn't pick up the arsenal of crude weaponry which is being smuggled into Gaza from the Sinai on a regular basis for the purposes of war with Israel.
Sorry if I don't sob for stranded Arabs in Sinai which have the opportunity to experience first hand Egyptian brotherly hospitality, a cruel and unwelcoming reality.
The reason Israel insists on securing its borders is because they care about the safety and lives of its citizens. Hamas and it all it controls in Gaza has made clear their intentions and you wander why Israel isn't giving you more concessions.
| David P. , |
Central Coast, USA |
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16. #6: PLEASE stop WHINING
".. and a twisted move it is, in many ways. Israel creted the humanitarian crisis on the Rafah crossing"
First, as you are a bunch of jihadis, why should we care about your "humanitarian crisis"? You live only to martyr yourselves anyway. Second, YOU created your "humanitarian crises" by your complete lack of interest in building a decent civilian infrastructure.
", and is now 'humanely' offering to solve it, albeit for her own interest. "
OOOOh, how shocking! An Israeli government move that advances the interests of ... Israelis and not foreign killers.
"This move will guarantee full control over movement and access to the occupied territories, since Rafah was the only direct land route outside Gaza, not crossing Israel..."
Yes, but you forced Israel to take control because of the vast quantities of weapons that were being transported to Gaza. Do you think we don't all know this? Rafah was supposed to be carefully monitored to prevent such transport. Obviously, it was NOT monitored.
I congratulate you, Gazan, in managing a level not only of murderousness but of peerless chutzpah.
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17. Big Thankssss Israel , Long live peace death to hamas
Hi every body , IM a YOUTH AND eNGINEER FORM gAZA , whhat i can say those terrorists who blame israel shut up , and you know whats happen terrorist take control over Gaza and crossing , how can it opened and two sides of the international agreement are abcent , Palestinian presidentail forces and EU observers , Why Hamas wnat it to be opened , because they want to smuggling weapons and Alqaeda people in addition to Money , anothr time thanks israel , you should arrest those hamas terrorsit and prevent them from retun to Gaza , and open Erz crossing for standard people , they should be in a prison Hamas.
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18. Hamas Don't Care About Own People
Hamas do not care about their own people. They would rather watch them rot in the desert for the next 50 years.
| Semsem , |
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19. For the sake of security, peace was lost
The 6000 threats to Israel that have been stranded on the Egyptian side of the Rafah crossing are made up of mainly sick people receiving treatment in Egypt of which 28 died while waiting, women of which 20 gave birth while in waiting, children and yes, a bunch of men who would for sure carry a grudge.
| Gazan , |
Gaza, Palestine |
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20. #15 David, check your facts.
"I guess those live video feeds, which are in fact delayed, didn't pick up the arsenal of crude weaponry which is being smuggled into Gaza from the Sinai on a regular basis"
Maybe because the "arsenal of crude weaponry" are smuggled through tunnels and not through the Rafah crossing, genius! Which is why closing this crossing is all the more ridiculous.
Look, it's not obvious to you, but to us it is: Abbas, the Egyptians and the Israelis want the border closed so that the population can suffer and hate life under Hamas. It's a simple classic case of punishing the population so they turn on their leaders.
And I'm not asking you to "sob" for stranded civilians that are dying by the day, for that would take an ounce of compassion, which you and your like don't encompass.
By the way, you seem to be so frightened from Hamas, can you check when the last Hamas suicide bombing in Israel took place? Get back to me on that one. And while you're at it, I'll check when the last IDF attack that killed civilians was. But actions don't matter to you people do they? All that matters is rhetoric and threats, not actual deeds. Strange.
| Khalid , |
Gaza City |
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21. More lies from Khalid (20)
Do you have any proof that no weapons have gone through Rafah? Anyway, Caroline Glick has already written more than once about this, even if the government doesn't want to admit it. You are lying, Khalid. There is a reason why the Pals wanted no supervision of what they were doing--and it certainly wasn't to send pregnant women to Egypt to have their babies.
You're lying about Egypt's role as well. If Egypt wanted to pressure the Gazan "Palestinians" to rebel against Hamas, it certainly wouldn't have facilitated the use of tunnels to send weapons over to arm Hamas, would it?
But then guns don't kill people; people kill people. And you're lying by suggesting that the human bombs & other jihadis you are sending via Rafah are just innocents who want to work.
You're lying by focusing suddenly on Hamas and suicide bombing, rather than Hamas and Kassams. You lie in implying that Hamas & Fatah are somehow very different organizations. No, they are intermingled--basically two related families of murderous gangsters who do business with each other when profitable. This is how Hamas could so defeat Fatah in Gaza, even though, officially, there are relatively few Hamasniks. Members from the Fatah gang just switched sides.
And you lie about "actual deeds" as well. The "actual deeds" that are relevant are that you and your buddies are lobbing missiles at Sderot daily, and when you have Katushas you will launch them farther. You are digging in underground Hezbollah-style bases, you are smuggling in weapons, and sending your murderers into Green Line Israel to kill people.
I believe in collective punishment. It was right for the allies to bomb Dresdent; it was right for the Americans to drop two A-bombs on Japanese cities; and it would be right for Israel to lay siege to you.
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22. #20 STOP PRETENDING AND ADMIT YOU'RE PREPARING FOR WAR
Bombings are being prevented b/c terrorists find it hard to get through the series of checkpoints and the security fence in Judea, Samara.
Gaza has always been sealed with a wall and therefore nearly impossible to penetrate into Israel. The constant barrage of Kassam rockets is a reminder to Israelis and the rest of the world that the Arabs in Gaza have one goal. Why should the Israelis make it any easier on you by freeing your travel options so you can plan and collaborate against Israel with ease.
Compassion, you demand Israelis have compassion for you, while your own Arab brothers and sisters keep you impoverished and hopeless for their own self -interest, fostering an army of pawns to reproduce for the soul purpose of sacrifice.
| David P. , |
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23. #22 David P: The Blind Replier. And a li'l somethin for #21.
Do you even read my posts before replying to them?
"Compassion, you demand Israelis have compassion for you,"
No I don't, I don't demand compassion from Israelis nor from Arabs. And what do you mean I'm preparing for war? How do you know this living in the "Central Coast"?
And sk? Nice name, loser. "Do you have any proof that no weapons have gone through Rafah?"
The Europeans were supervising Rafah Crossing. Are you suggesting they let Hamas smuggle weapons into Gaza? Ohh yeah it's those anti-semitic Europeans! They're in on it! The whole world besides the US is in on this anti-semitic conspiracy!
The weapons were being smuggled underground through tunnels, as your own gov't suggests, and why wouldn't they be?!
"There is a reason why the Pals wanted no supervision of what they were doing--and it certainly wasn't to send pregnant women to Egypt to have their babies."
Good one, sk. But wait a sec, didn't Israel withdraw from Gaza? Then why is it insisting to supervise? You people complicate everything, the reason Hamas doesn't want an Israeli hand at the border is simple: it would allow Israel to arrest any Hamas member that wanted to cross into or out of Gaza, that's it!
| Khalid , |
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24. Run out of material, Khalid? (23)
I've noticed that jihadis like you have only a small amount of material. The moment it is blasted away, your writing suddenly disintegrates as well, as you cannot come up with anything new on the spot.
So now you lead off with my nom de plume? You have no real response, of course, to either the general thrust of my TB or any of the individual points I make.
Oh, I'm not convinced you are in Gaza, by the way. Your writing is, though vacuous and dishonest, too idiomatic in its English.
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25. #20 khalid
the rfeason that no hamas suicide bombing occured in israel recently is BECAUSE WE HAVE SECURITY CONTGROL IN ALL THESE CROSSINGS AND A HUGE FENCE TO KEEP YOUR TERROPRISTS AND THEIR SUICIDE MISSIONS OUT. ALSO, ISRAELI ARMY INCURSION INTO GAZA AND WSEST BANK IS PRECICELY TO FISH OUT THE TERRORISTS AMONGST YOUJ SO THAT THEY MAY NEVER BE ABLE TO PLAN AN ATTACK OR ENTER ISRAEL TO EXECUTE IT. CAPISH?
SORRY ABOUT THE COLECTIVE PUNISHMENT TO YOUR CITIZENS THAT ARE INNOCENT. HOWEVER, THE LAST POLL TAKEN IN YOUR TERRITORIES SHOWED BIN LOADIN TO BE THE NUMBER ONE FAVORITE AMONGST YOUR PEOPLE, WITH HAMAS COMING IN SECOND......ARE YOU BEGINNING TO GET THE PICTURE WHY ISRAEL HAS TO BEHAVE THE WAY IT DOES?
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