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Egyptians kill 4 Sudanese refugees at Israeli border
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Published: 02.08.07, 21:49
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31. # 4
Birdi ,   Israel   (08.03.07)
Nemesis, should you change your mind & come to Israel, your best way to enter our country is via a valid port of entry,like an airport or harbour. That is if you have the money for a valid airfare ticket etc !!!!!!!!
32. @9 they are helping human beings
Suzanne   (08.03.07)
just the way Jews should have been helped during WWII
33. to #6
(08.03.07)
Wishing you for the coming New Year that you and your whole family be in the same situation as these poor people AMEN
34. Mister 10
(08.03.07)
stop writing, you don't belong here. stay in America and shut up nobody here needs your comments
35. 14
(08.03.07)
What do you mean by "before WE are over run....... " Do you live here, do you serve the army, do you pay taxes. Go to hell
36. here's a story for you.....
(08.03.07)
during the lebanon civil war for 15 years, the muslims and palestinians fighting against the christian lebanese army in marjayoun (used to be a beautiful small town in southern lebanon which had churches and beautiful peaceful people...(christians), the palestinian refugees in lebanon and the muslims arabs entered the village, tied a baby's leg to the mother, the other leg to the father, and started pulling the mother and father apart untill the baby was torn into two pieces. this is doccumented and witnessed by many christians in what used to be beautiful southern lebanon. on that night, the christian lebanese secretly fled to the border with israel, flagged down an armed israeli geep and begged them to protect these christians....ironic, isn't it? these were the good old days for arab christians in lebanon before the islamists invaded lebanon from all of arabia and joined with the palestinian refugees in camps in southern lebanon to islamize lebanon and kill all the infidels....arab christians included. today, marjayoun and kalia and many arab christian farms and villages and towns do not exist. instead, you have a muslim arab population which confiscated, raped, robbed and mutilated the christian community and eliminated them from southern lebanon and all of lebanon. typical arab muslim behavior which shouldn't surprise anyone. if america and europe do not wake up and realize how muslims do things and what their goal is, it'll be way to late to even think about our reaction or contemplate being politically correct. americans are naive because they live protected and sheltered in our safe vacume and tghink it is great to demonize israel and its actions against these barbarians. however, what they completely do not comprehend or are not familiar with is the muslim mentality. this non comprehension and this naivite will make the usa and europe the second lebanon and it is just a matter of time.
37. Where are the Human Rights Activist Now
ben ,   singapore   (08.03.07)
What have they to say for the murdering of 4 Sudanese refugees by the Egyptians. What about the Guardian Paper, BBC, UNITED NATIONS HIGH COMM for REFUGEES ?WHAT HAVE THEY TO SAY? IS IT THAT THE COLOR of these Children of G-d DARK and black that their life is less important ? Now let the WORLD Community know the REASON why these children are running for asylum in ISRAEL but not to the surrounding nations.Israel please open the doors for rescue and temporary settlement until the so called CIVILISED WORLD NATIONS take these children of Sudan as resettlement to third country, giving them a decent home to live freely.Wher else can they run to now for protection if it is not to Israel. Take them if you must send the IDF to rescue the refugees.This is your duty with burden and it is the non- israeli accountrements too. But DONT FORGET the world will blame Israel for resqueing these sudanese refugees too. O bloody hell take them , give them what they need, who cares we are used to be castigated for everything under the sun. ben singapore
38. #36 - Lebanese - My first reaction was to say
Cathy ,   USA   (08.03.07)
Why don't these Christian Arabs speak out and tell the world... Then I realized you had not used a name at all, as signifying that you'd be afraid to be identified. A deliberate message that would be lost if you had used a pseudonym. So, I understand. There have been a few brave Arab souls that have spoken up, but people have families and don't want to run the risk of attracting attention and suffering from vindictive acts. This is all very sad. Islamists are making us censor ourselves. The UK uses the euphemism "Asian" when they really mean Muslim. The French use the term "youth", when they also mean rioting Muslims. We are afraid to publish some cartoons, lest they offend the Muslims. Once I watched an interview with the head of a cartoonist association in Britain, who was asked why they had published a cartoon of Sharon devouring a Palestinian baby, and why they did not publish anything offensive like that about Arabs, and he quite candidly said that he feared retaliation from Arabs but not from Jews.... But thanks to the Web we learn things that the mainstream media would not dare publish due to self-censorship.
39. #31..Birdi
Nemesis   (08.03.07)
I see you have purposley chosen to misunderstand,or are you maybe a "birdbrain"? Obviously meant that being shot by Egyptains at the border using the smugglers route would deter me from entering Israel by that means. By the way,I have visited Israel several times..via the airport.
40. Bravo #37
Chaya ,   Bat Yam, Israel   (08.03.07)
Certainly a long-term solution has to be found for these unfortuates. But until that time comes, if Israel is in a position to help and protect these people - temporarily - this should be done!!
41. #35
rj ,   temp in england   (08.03.07)
im Israel born,yes have paid taxes,yes have served in IDF yes i mean over-run by african moslems...we dont want it and dont need it...working in uk adn sending money to Israeli charities gives me ALL the rights to express my opions about MY country...
42. How do they know they are Sudanese"
Mark ,   Cincinnati, USA   (08.03.07)
I used to live and work in Sudan. The nilotic africans there are distinctive and can be easily picked out from other africans. I spot them immediately when I see refugees working in my country. To Julia, they are coming to Israel because they are being persecuted to death in their homeland, and in Egypt. They have a hope that maybe in Israel they will find those who will not have a callous heart and will help the helpless.
43. Re; #6- Most of the them are Sudanese
Bartley Kulp ,   Safed, Israel   (08.03.07)
Most of them are Sudanese with roughly half of them from the Darfur region. It especially becomes morally are problem when we request for the Egyptians to crack down on the problem at the border and the result is murder. We do not need atrocities to be committed on our behalf. Bare in mind that we are even censoring the video of this atrocity so as not to offend the Egyptians. After all they have been so helpfull (sarcasm) in patrolling the border against infiltrating terrorists and weapons. You do not see Egyptians beating to to death terrorists at the border. This is probably because it is not politically expedient for them and they hate us anyway. I would like to add that they are not black. We can go on celebrating Yom Hashoah , which many view the state of Israels reason d'etre. We will proclaim remember. It is even a great photo opportunity for our leaders abroad. But if we can stomach Egyptian soldiers murdering people on our behalf it is all a load of B.S.
44. now, had they been....
Tracy ,   Texas, USA   (08.03.07)
Arab-looking, they'd have been stopped and given weapons before allowing them to cross the border! Arab/Muslims have never liked Black Africans, which is why they sold them into slavery. Nothing has or will ever change. There's nothing here for the liberal media to report. Why? Because there's no fun in not laying blame upon Israel. Unless you take the viewpoint that Israel 'just stood there and let 4 innocent people die'. Oops, I might have given the MSM an idea to run with. Watch, they'll leave out the nationality of the border soldiers who committed these crimes. Better yet, they'll just keep quiet. The death of a black African is just not that important to the media. Unless it allows for the involvement of celebrities to come up with a stupid concert to raise money to 'save the poor souls'. Truly sickening and sad. The four dead are in my prayers. Come on U.N., where's your compassion now?
45. Brutality of Egyptian soldiers...
Jim K ,   Omaha, USA   (08.03.07)
This kind of brutality is unconscionable! And the IDF soldiers watched in horror the beating deaths. But, may I ask, where was the display of horror when the IDF was used to physically, callously, with a kind of terroristic horror of their own at Amona, Gush Katif, and possible coming in Samaria and Judea? Violence is perpetrated horror against people who wish to be free to live real lives. There is no life under tyranny of any kind including Omert's and the IDF's. Somehow I cannot help but believe it is more atrocious when such acts are perpetrated against your own people. There is no shame within the hearts of those who commit such things whether Egyptian soldiers or Israeli. And there is no excuse for any of it in the eyes of Almighty G-d! When I see horror and outrage in the eyes and hear it from the hearts of the IDF when violence is committed against their own people, and refuse to participate in such evil, then I will accept their claim to being horrified by what the Egyptian soldiers did to these innocent Sudanese whose only crime was to seek freedom. If you, IDF, make excuse that you only follow orders and commit atrocities by the order of a black-hearted man as Olmert, you make yourselves, all of you, hypocrites. The Egyptian soldiers were just following their orders, too. It is always the innocents who suffer most. There just is no shame. G-d help us!
46. Not a fan, #34?
Cameron ,   USA   (08.03.07)
You inspire me to redouble my efforts. Truth shall ye free.
47. #38
(08.03.07)
no, i am not a lebanese at all, although i respect and love the lebanese christian arabs who have for centuries been peaceful tollerant people that have been decimated by the islamists in lebanon and elsewhere. I AM AN ISRAELI JEW that served in the army during this horrenduous time of the lebanon civil war and have communicated extensively with the christian lebanese soldiers on our borders.....which is now hizbullah land after the plo was dismantled there by the idf during that same war. poor people how they suffered, these christians. they lived in total terror of the islamists and their co-horts the palestinian refugees in lebanon. lebanese people have been the pearl of the mediterranian for so long before that civil war and prior to the islamist takeover of their country and government. they constantly asked our troops for aid and we sent them, to their shelters, food, blankets, gasoline for heat and military aid. for a long time we were the only one they had contact with and if we didn't enter to push back these islamists there would have been no christian live in marjayoun. you have no idea who you are dealing with. the barbarity of the islamists, the sheer backwardness and evil and no soul they possess. us soldiers would be in shock to see what they did to the babies and the older men and women. how they raped young girls and disfigured them and how these families ran to the border to israel to get medical help. and we accepted them immediately because we were humans.
48. Eygytians did you guys a huge favor
Border Jumper ,   Alfalfa Co USA   (08.04.07)
Did it ever occur to you `outraged` tree-huggers that if the egyptians HAD just stood aside and let the Africans FLOOD into your nation they would totally overwhelm you with 3rd worlders.... you ingrates?? I am not happy about anyone being beaten, but there are hundreds of millions of Africans all of whom are desperate to get out of their univesally hell-hole countries, BASICALLY ANYPLACE BUT AFRICA, and the flood will never stop with these people. Any first world nation lured into taking them will be destroying thmeselves. They can do you only harm and there is no upside or benefit to taking them..you will have them and their descendants as national ``dependents`` FOREVER. You fools better get down and kiss the feet of the Egyptian troops that for some reason were good enough to spare your nation from being overrun with a bottomless pit of trouble. Keep up this criticism, and hopefully next time they wil just stand aside and make these millions who cant seem to manage the least improvement in their continent, YOUR PROBLEM.
49. Blessing God to Isreal
David Hakim George ,   south Sudan   (08.27.07)
I cant give thanks to the Isreal solder and Student of Beer saver University. and also Student of Jerusalem University. for the wonderfull love of them to asked Isreal government to let sudanese refugees at the moment in Isreal may God bless all the people who have the love to sudanese refugees. in Isreal. and I to pray for them To God be Glory. Amen
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