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HRW: Israeli strikes in Lebanon indiscriminate
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Published: 06.09.07, 12:55
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31. No Such Thing As A Clean War
Bill Foonman ,   Jacksonville, USA   (09.06.07)
It doesn't matter who hid what where. The bottom line is that this was a war and as long as Islamic terrorism exists and continues to spread its violent, barbaric doctrine, civilians will get killed. We can only hope that the once-beautiful country of Lebanon can somehow come to its senses and excise the Hezbollah cancer in its midst.
32. It's Your Fault Israel
Simon ,   Israeli Stuck in USA   (09.06.07)
If you fired aimlessly into southern lebanon like hezbula did into northern israel, you wouldn't be picked on by so called unbiased UN watch groups. The world is against us, and why shouldn't they be? We are the chosen people, we are better than every religion on earth. Memo to USA: Stop trying to force democracy down these Arabs throats. If they aren't willing to die for it, why are your soldiers? Now if you want to bomb them back 1000 years or so, maybe they can start over and do it themselves.......ah who am I fooling, they will never get it.
33. #29: Naher al bared
Jay ,   USA   (09.06.07)
Actually in Naher al Bared camp, the Lebanese army evacuated all civilians (40,000 of them) before starting to shell the camp. The Lebanese army was operating within the borders of its own country. The Lebanese army did not use their heavy bombing until the very last days, and suffered most of their casualties because they chose not to toss bombs from afar, and actually went in in the camp in targeted operations. The Lebanese army even allowed food and medicine to go in the camp to treat the insurgents wounded and feed their families. The Lebanese army did not target the civilians that were fleeing. The Lebanese army did not throw cluster bombs The Lebanese army did not plant land mines troughout the camp (the army is actually working on removing the mines put up by the insurgents) The Lebanese government is working on a plan to rebuild the whole camp and reimburse those that were affected by the bombing. In short, you cannot even begin to compare what the IDF did in the 2nd Lebanon war to the what the Lebanese army did in Naher el Bared, so get your facts straight before talking bud!
34. SICKENING
ZEV ,   US   (09.06.07)
WHAT ABOUT THE QASSAMS THAT TERRORIZE ISRAELIS EVERY SINGLE DAY? MORE ANTI SEMITIC PROPAGANDA.
35. HRW IS SO CREDIBLE! OFF TO DURBAN II!
stude ham   (09.06.07)
36. Hizbullah and Israel
Brenda ,   London, Canada   (09.06.07)
Human Rights watch slammed Hizbullah for targeting civilians. Now it's Israels' turn. A nation should behave better than drug dealers.
37. Roth...Jewish ? Useful Idiot ?
andrew ,   miami,fl   (09.06.07)
time to sit this guy down for a talk... he and noam chomski
38. Selfmurder attackers also kill indiscriminately - and ONLY
Helene ,   Israel   (09.06.07)
civilians.
39. #33
(09.06.07)
israel WARNED the lebanese civilians by THROWING LEAFLETS INTO THE CIVILIAN AREAS IN SOUTHERN LEBANON WARNING THEM OF AN IMMINENT ATTACK ON HIZBULLAH STRONHOLD. hizbullah kept these citizens in the houses it housed their terror cells and ammunition and tunnels because THEY KNEW that in this way these innocent people will be killed and they can use it for propaganda. it was a calculated arab move. nothing new. they do it all the time.
40. Dear Israel:
M. Hartley ,   Atlanta, US   (09.06.07)
The next time someone kidnaps your soldiers or kills your people and you have the unmitigated gall to retaliate, for crying out loud, try to live up the HRW's contentions and your name and level everything and everybody in sight and give them something to gripe about. Oh, and if they don't want civilians killed, have HRW tell the asshats to wear uniforms.
41. #19 I agree completely
rachel ,   usa   (09.06.07)
42. #33
israeli ,   israel   (09.06.07)
Naher-el-Bared was not evacuated by the Lebanese army. Its inhabitants fled, as Arabs fled from Israel whenever their own armies started the wars. And the Lebanese army did shell the camp with people still in it (except there was no Green helmet guy and other "Red Cross volunteer" to pimp the bodies for the cameras), if you care to examine more closely the scant press reports available.
43. #12Nasrallah started it . He had prepared for it
rachel ,   usa   (09.06.07)
The proof is all the rockets they sent into Israel .....They were looking for a fight ......They lost ....now they blame israel..... Its all bull ....
44. #33, hmm, maybe you should get your facts straight
Danny   (09.06.07)
http://www.reliefweb.int/rw/RWB.NSF/db900SID/EKOI-73G5L9?OpenDocument http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,484733,00.html http://www.naharnet.com/domino/tn/NewsDesk.nsf/getstory?openform&08183B665ABC7DBDC22572E2002E6F35 http://asia.news.yahoo.com/070524/afp/070524022430top.html So much for evacuating all the civilians and not targeting them. As for "heavy bombing", the Lebanese army doesn't have a bomber force so technically you are right here. What they did instead is heavily shell the camp as you can see. Most of the IDF casualties were "because they chose not to toss bombs from afar, and actually went in in the camp in targeted operations". Exactly one of the 4,000 rockets hit a military target. Israel also "allowed food and medicine" and there were a few respites from the bombing during the war to evacuate people and Israel coodinated conveys that weren't attacked. The Lebanese army may not have "thrown cluster bombs" but then Fatah al-Islam didn't cover 1/3 of Lebanon with rockets. So there is "a plan to rebuild" the camp, ain't that sweet. Just like they have rebuilt the South. If I was a Palestinian living in Naher Al-Bared, I wouldn't be booking my move back just yet. As a matter of curiosity, given the above is common knowledge what "news source" did you get your "facts" from?
45. HRW did not check with these sources ???
CK Tan ,   Singapore, Singapore   (09.06.07)
- Jan Egeland (UN humanitarian chief & no friend of Israel) : "I heard (the hezabollahs) were proud because they lost very few fighters and that it was the civilians bearing the brunt of this. I don't think anyone should be proud of having many more children and women dead than armed men." - NYT : Christians said hezabollah were using their houses as shield. - The New Yorker : Sidon resident said it was common knowledge that bombs were often kept in mosques. - canada.com : doctor admitted his hospital was a rocket site; Lebanese resident denounced hezabollah for using villagers as human shield; Lebanese Red Cross team found rocket launcher remains inside village, including 1 deep inside an orchard and 1 lodged between 2 houses. - Sunday Herald Sun (Oz) : photos showing hezbollah using high-density residential areas for firing rockets and fighters in civilian clothing, etc. And even CNN (no friend of Israel) revealed that hezabollah controlled the places the MSM could go or see, or who they could interview. In other words, the terrorists STAGED the damages and their claims. A study of MSM lebanon war coverage by Harvard University reveals exaggerated accounts of incidences, damages and casualties, all arranged by hezabollah E.g. "Hizbullah limited access to Western reporters, "orchestrated" events and manipulated journalists with threats of expulsion if they violated its reporting rules. And the press largely complied with the restrictions that were "reminiscent of the Soviet era,".
46. Finally, proof of what the world already knew
Mr. Knowitall ,   Frostbite Falls, MN   (09.06.07)
It was very clear during the war that Israel pre-planned the war (admitted by Israel) and was looking for a fight and was using US supplied weapons to intentionally attacking civilians. All this report does in confirm what everyone already knew regardless of Israel's attempted denials, that Israel chose to attack civilians, was not deeply sorry nor regretted doing so and that Hezbollah did not use civilians as human shields as Israel tried to claim. At least now the truth has been exposed by an organization that is well respected by all except the war criminals and terrorists themselves.
47. #33 sorry Jay, in short get your facts straight!!
Mark ,   Georgia, USA   (09.06.07)
As has been pointed out everything you stated was wrong. 1) Pamphlets were dropped to notify the civilians to get out. They didn't because they are complicit. 2) HRW noted Hesbo did NOT dress in uniforms. 3) They didn't use cluster bombs because they don't have them 4) If another country attacks you of course your going to respond to that country, doesn't that make sense? Who else would they respond to, the Jordanians? 5) Don't hold your breath on them rebuilding. I'll believe it when I see it 6) I didn't know the IDF planted land mines? This is the first I've heard of it. Please document. Submitted for your approval...or not Mark from Georgia
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