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Report: US wants war with Iran
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Published: 16.09.07, 11:17
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31. #8Marcel: There are many opinions on what the white horse
Rivkah   (09.16.07)
might be. It could be Catholicism whose Pope rides in white cars and airplanes. The rider on the white horse has a bow but no arrow (weapon) which is like the Vatican that conquered many lands in name of religion through the armies of various countries that did the Vatican's bidding. The events in chapters in Revelation may not be in chronological order, irvin Baxter found on closer study in a study series called "Revelation Commentary." The beast that devours much flesh including three countries is a BEAR, not an EAGLE. A bear is a symbol of Russia which is more likely that beast. If the White horse is Catholicism and not something else, what is the Red Horse that takes peace from the world: Communism. What is the Black horse that causes both famine and plenty: Capitalism. And what is the Pale (Chloros is green in Greek) horse? Islam, most likely. Time will reveal a more clear meaning of the prophecies, but one thing is for sure: God is the deliverer of Israel. I can only hope America is a part of Israel (tribe of Joseph's son Manasseh who was told he would become a great nation and who was half Egyptian. The Great Seal of the USA is half Egyptian, a pyramid).
32. It's always nice to see the CIA leak this information
Steven Wilson ,   Anchorage, Alaska   (09.16.07)
to undermine its own country during a war. Or maybe it was a military official from the Democratic Presidential Committee. I could give a crap if they use some reason A#, Reason B# mentality over the next few months to bomb Iran. Just go ahead and bomb them already. The Iranians have had a fun time killing US soldiers over the years. It's payback time.
33. To #16 , Sandra
David ,   Italy   (09.16.07)
Sandra , you have the behaviour of an haughty teacher......but YOU have to study some more !!! Persians are not Arabs !!! Persians are not Semitics. You can find this information in many Elementary School books. And then , whoever says such things about the Holocaust....is Antisemitic ! No need of quibbles. Study , Think (if you can)....and only after open your mouth....ignorant "teacher"
34. #22 Hey mister(no I don't know it all) that scripture ties
into Zech:6-1-7. ,   Study, study,study!!   (09.16.07)
35. #22 idiot! the king of babylon always has been & will be
Iraq, & parts of the ,   old medopersian land   (09.16.07)
36. #22 Ya just can't make up scripture to fit your hate.!! Read
that 1 Cor:13 Love ,   chpt. yet? NOT!!!!   (09.16.07)
37. To # 16 , Sandra
David ,   Italy   (09.16.07)
Sandra , you have the behaviour of an haughty teacher......but YOU have to study some more !!! Persians are not Arabs !!! Persians are not Semites. You can find this information in many Elementary School books. And then , whoever says such things about the Holocaust....is Antisemitic ! No need of quibbles. Study , Think (if you can)....and only after open your mouth !
38. #35: I hope you are right that the king of Babylon is Iraqi.
Rivkah   (09.16.07)
But some believe that since America is occupying Iraq, the US President is a de facto king of Babylon. Exekiel chapter 32 describes a young lion nation whose multitude (military according to Strong's concordance) is destroyed by a sword of the king of Babylon. If the sword of the king of Babylon is Iraqi, it might be America's or Britain's or Israel or some other young lion nation's military that is attacked by Saddan Hussein' s wmd's that were taken to Syria. If the sword of the king of Babylon is American, then what young lion country is going to get their military wiped out by that sword? A RAM is a symbol of Iran (Persia). Is Syria a lion country? Damascus will become rubble from an attack or an earthquake. Egypt will become uninhabitable for forty years which must be a nuclear war. Is Egypt a young lion country since democracy there is recent after the overthrow of King Farouk by Nasser. This is food for thought.
39. #31 Rivka,White Horse
Marcel ,   Florida   (09.16.07)
Rome is described as a whore instead of the bride of messiah she claims to be in revelation. The rider with the crown on the white horse is in the conquering business as we see busy George going for #3 in his quest to bring peace as described in his nightmare vision. He is a wannabe messiah.,a fake prince of peace. He assumes to take God's place in bringing peace to and for Israel. He has succeeded in decieving a large majority of decieved Christian's and Jews who see him as their hero demogod on a white horse who will take care of Iran for them. They are in for major tribulation worse than tents because they trusted in a lie. This white horse rider Bush COUNTERFEITS theTRUE white horse rider of Revelation 19;11 who is known as THE WORD OF GOD.
40. Failure to communicate.
Ethan ,   USA   (09.16.07)
What people don't seem to understand is that as much as the U.S. may lose by going to war, we will be protecting our nation's lives and those of our allies. Iran may have weapons, but no single nation in the world can defeat the U.S.A. For the most part, no one even knows about the technology and plans that the American government has or the special training our military has. The US wants war with Iran to protect our citizens, and those of our allies.
41. major strikes are needed benefit long term the region
zionist forver   (09.16.07)
Big aiirstrikes accross Iran is just wht the whole region needs. Iran is a growing threat not just to Israel but also thhe Gulf states, Turkey and Egypt. Bomb just the neuclear facilities you deal have done damage but a major set of airstrikes puts both the threat of neuclear and conventional wars out of the picture it will alsoi limit Irans abilities to retaliate. An operation like this would be contreversaial and would have some short term consequenses such as oil prices going up but in the medium - long term it will benefot the entire region The US has hundreds of fighter planes and cruise miissles on Irans doorstep so all the hardware is in place all thats needed now is a will to use it.
42. #39 Marcel: You may change your opinion as events unfold.
Rivkah   (09.16.07)
Daniel chapter 8 says the notable horn (USA) breaks into four parts and out of one of those nations comes the little horn. Alexander the Great could not be the notable horn because Greece was not a nation from the ends of the earth that touches not the ground (airplanes) in subduing the ram with two horns that verse 23 says is Media-Persia (Iraq-Iran). For George Bush to be the little horn, he would have to have a fierce countenance, be more stout than his fellows, achieve the kingdom by flatteries, be peace deceive many, and he would have to go into the rebuilt THIRD TEMPLE saying he is god when he is not. The Covenant with Death of Daniel which is a SEVEN year treaty that CONFIRMS another treaty and at midpoint the little horn goes into the rebuilt temple in Jerusalem making his false claim. IF RESOLUTION 666 of Javier Solana and the WEU (TEN nation military arm of EU) that was confirmed by the NEW ENPI (New European Neighborhood Partnership Initiative) is the Covenant of Death, and IF George Bush retains power over one of the four parts the USA as the notable horn breaks into, then it is possible he may be the little horn. But that is not likely since he likes the desire of women and has two daughters. The little horn does not regard the desire of women. Either he is a eunuch or a homosexual or he does not regard Jesus Christ who may be what the Hebrew idiom "desire of women" refers to. It was the desire of Hebrew women to be the mother of the messiah. I do not see George Bush as the little horn yet since his name does not add up to 666 as some other candidates for little horn do. It is too early to tell. I am still open to other possibilities on that, but you think it is George Bush which is your right to have an opinion. I cannot agree with that at this point since all the evidence is not in.
43. #42 Rivkah
Marcel ,   Florida   (09.17.07)
I agree with much of what you say. Good point on the notable horn not being Alexander. Nowhere in Revelation 6;2 does it call the rider on the white horses the anti-christ. By peace George has decieved ,destroyed many,in fact most of ISRAEL IS DECIEVED BY HIM. I think at this time he is a type,a very good example of the anit-christ. A false peacemaker for Israel counterfeiting the Prince of Peace . Messiah Jesus who alone will bring peace. An imposter to the throne who goes out and makes war to bring peace & democracy. truly someone who has seduced even the very elect.
44. sticking to business
tom ,   toronto, canada   (09.17.07)
the "iranian problem" is not with the iranian civilian population, but with the mullahs runnig the show, the physicists, and the revolutionary guard that supports the regime. although it's tall order, "regime change" in teheran could turn an enemy rogue state into an ally, with very little loss of life. the key is to support opposition elements inside iran, while using american forces selectively to cripple the decaying underpinnings of the regime. and then let the iranians straighten out their own country.
45. FU Terry
AR ,   USA   (09.17.07)
The shah was a tyrant you prick. Of course diplomacy was failed from the start. Bush wont even talk to them. How can you be diplomatic when you wont talk.
46. $46 But---they talk with the EU, UN, russia, and others &
lie. So why continue ,   talks w/ a deceiver?   (09.17.07)
47. #9, John-Ahmadinejad
DR ,   Florida, USA   (09.17.07)
No one is talking about invading iran. The US is well aware that it is stretched thin. We are talking about tactical air strikes that would cripple Iran's military and economic resources. And your anti-Israeli rants only show how dumb people like you are. Israel has nothing to do with Iran's nuclear progress. The whole world has warned Iran, but they are still defiant and we know where that gets you...HELL!!!
48. #43Marcel:It is difficult to say who the heros and villans
Rivkah   (09.18.07)
are at times. George Bush may also be the leader of the tribe of Joseph who is described in the Bible as the hammer of the whole earth. If Geoerge Bush is the hammer of Joseph which implies a military might of a tribe used by God in Jeremiah, he might be a hero. Why would God want Iraq (ancient Media or Babylon) to be judged by the hammer of Joseph? Babylon destroyed the FIRST TEMPLE in Jerusalem and this is the long delayed judgment of Babylon (Iraq) for doing that. The judgment will be for Babylon (Iraq, Media) to become uninhabitable forever. The depleted uranium tipped bullets and bunker busting bombs polluted the air, soil, and water with depleted uranium which has a half life of 10,000 years before it is half as toxic. Cancer rates have risen as have birth defects in Iraq and countries downwind like Kuwait. Will something else cause Iraq to become uninhabitable forever like dirty nukes? Possibly. But America (Manasseh) and Britain (Ephraim) which were two sons of Joseph who were told by Jacob they would become a great nation and a multitude of nations with the gates of their enemies...America and the British Commonwealth are JOSEPH and JOSEPH is described in the Bible as the HAMMER OF THE WHOLE EARTH. That sounds like a compliment from God for the tribe of Joseph (Manasseh and Ephraim). The rider on the white horse in Revelation has a bow (power) but no arrow (actual physical weapon or army) which is more likely the Pope who rides a white car and airplane. It could also be Adam who went forth to subdue the earth without a weapon. If the Pope is the rider on the White horse, then Catholicism is the White horse. Capitalism which is symbolized by Black is likely the Black horse that brings famine and plenty in the form of poverty and wealth. Communism certainly took peace from the world with a great sword and may be the Red horse. The pale (Chloros in Greek is green) may be Islam. There can also be many meanings since history repeats until the final unfolding which fits all the verses perfectly instead of partially. The judgments George Bush has brought on America are mostly weather judgments for insisting Israel give up land for peace when there is no peace. John McTernon's book "God's Final Warning to America" outlines some of the judgments of abortion and other sins and forcing Israel to give up land. The Bible says that Armageddon will be caused because God's land was divided up that He gave to his people (Jews who are Jews in their hearts) in the neverending covenant with Israel anciently to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. The Christians are a grafted on branch of the tree of faith with Jewish roots. The eyes of the Jews and only the Jews are blinded to the name of God, so they are exempt from knowing that name. They worship God by titles such as Adonai and Hashem which for Jews only, God accepts.
49. Marcel: A future SECGEN of the UN may be the little horn of
Rivkah   (09.19.07)
Daniel if the white horse is Roman Catholicism because a previous Pope (John XXIII?) gave UN SECGEN U Thant of Thailand the Pope's crown and ring long ago, giving Papal authority to the kingship of the UN SECGEN in perpetuity as Popes have done with Monarchs of Europe for thousands of years. If the USA breaks into four parts after the war with Iran (Daniel ch. 8), the little horn will come out of one of those parts. That is how your choice of George Bush could be a candidate, but his name does not add up to 666 by Greek or Hebrew or Biblical Numerics methods to my knowledge. William Jeperson Clinton (ancient spelling of Jefferson) adds up to 666 according to JR Church, as does Hilare Rodham Clinton (ancient spelling of Hillary). Last I read about it, Bill Clinton was the Undersecretary of the United Nations for the United States. His P.D.D. 25 which has not been reversed (Executive Order) changed the sequence of command if a US President dies while in office during a declared National Emergency: power goes to the UN SECGEN, not the US Vice President. Phyllis Schlafly, the President of Eagle Forum, says P.D.D. 25 has NOT been reversed under President George Bush. The UN Charter does not allow an American to be UN SECGEN, but if America breaks into four countries after the Iran war, someone like Bill Clinton from one of the new nations would be eligible to be UN SECGEN.
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