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Al-Dura footage to air
Yaakov Lappin
Published: 20.09.07, 18:18
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31. You zionists fail to explain...
Zeal   (09.21.07)
How two other children were killed the same day. The names: Nizar Mahmoud Hasan Aida, 16, of Deir Ammar refugee camp, killed by IDF gunfire to his chest during a demonstration at Ayosh Junction. Khaled Adli Bassem al-Bazyan, 14, of Nablus, killed by IDF gunfire to his abdomen during a demonstration on the Nablus-Ramallah road. Or how the next day, five children would also be killed, the youngest of them 18 months old and killed by a settler. Were they also killed by Palestinian bullets, or was the video of Al-Durrah being killed intentional instead of covering that recent surge in violence? I'll give you a clue- only one of the eight children in these two days were filmed instead of more than one.
32. #28
Zeal   (09.21.07)
The two deadliest months of the last seven years were March and April of 2002, the months of the Jenin battle. Between 230 and 245 people died in each month, giving around 500 deaths. In addition, homes were collapsed, Palestinians were buried in the rubble, similar to Sharon's Qibya raid fifty years ago which took about sixty lives. Further, Israel has a known history of false flag attacks (see the Lavon affair, USS Liberty and Trojan horse operation), and it practically dictates US policy and media coverage in the middle east (that's where we got the hoax about Saddam's WMDs, that's how Israel's forty year old nuclear weapon stockpile was discovered only last year, and how Palestinian-Israeli conflict, the killing of children, gets little coverage- if they report a Palestinian's death, they make sure to include the army's rediculous justifications). Remember the Mossad's motto if you want to join them: "Through deceit, thou shalt do war."
33. What about Qana 2006 and Qana 1996? About 100 children died.
Khalid ,   Gaza City   (09.21.07)
Was that staged footage as well? What about Sabra and Chatila? Or July 2002 in Gaza City?
34. Is Enderlin a moron? Sure looks it:
Seva Brodsky ,   Jerusalem & Boston   (09.21.07)
quote: Reacting to Wednesday's court ruling Enderlin told Ynetnews he welcomed the decision. "I am very happy about this decision. From the start, our position has been that we will not release raw footage except through a judicial process. We will not release the footage to militants or private individuals," he said. "I'm very happy that it will be seen in court. I hope that this is the end of a smear campaign which has gone on for seven years, and which has been difficult for me and my family," he added. "People have accused us of staging an event which is an absolute lie. I am very happy at last to have the possibility (to show it)," Enderlin said. -- end quote Does he realize he makes no sense whatsoever and that he contradicts himself? There are so many things wrong with these statements that I don't know where to begin.
35. Yes, Khald (33), staged as well. Glad you asked.
sk ,   USA   (09.21.07)
36. 15,16: Ur recycled garbage won’t change history
Tony ,   FL   (09.21.07)
which states that mideast was peaceful until jewish terror groups started arriving in Palestine with the intent of expelling Palestinians and taking their lands in every possible way. We are not talking about 3000 years, millions of people remember those days and hundreds of millions can see what Israeli troops and settlers are doing in Palestine at the present time. Ur crap might have worked if people still depend on CNN, Fox news, ABC, NBC..... Today most Americans are fed up with this crap and turn to the Internet get the real story of "WHY THEY HATE US".
37. Al-Durra.Re 25&28
khader herzallah ,   amman-jordan   (09.21.07)
You always avoid answering the subject in question and talk about irrelevant matters,because you are like parrots,repeat blindly what your Govt and Idf tells you.Your media is more reliable than the above mentioned two agencies,I admit that your media has more freedom than owers when it tackles local affairs but not any subject has any thing to do with the Pals.What wakes you up after 7 years to talk about Al_Durra? It is the feeling of GUILT and you try to switch facts based on information dictated on you. Unfortunately you always forget the crimes you carry against the Pals especially their children.
38. #31 Nizar killed himself with suicide belt
Rehavam ,   Israel   (09.21.07)
And wasnt Khaled "14 boy" who buchered with knife 5 jewish woman in taxi cab? also arent u one of 5.000.000 Jenin "victims"? You sond like one. Dont forget "Mossad" killed "Jesus the fakinstinian" on the time machine.
39. #23
(09.21.07)
there was never a single aspache helicopter on the scene where al durah died. he died by palestinian bullets.
40. Abu Zeal (31, 32)
sk ,   USA   (09.21.07)
You are still a newcomer here, and you have already managed to prove yourself a nasty--and utterly generic--Jew hater. Zeal, honey, you haven't said a single original or subtle thing so far. There's a good reason for that: you rely on Holocaust-denying & assorted Jew-hating web sites. Now, one can't blame mere ignorance. For example, you have falsely quoted Sharon and then hid when you were called on it rather than fessing up. When I write a response to you, you ignore it. (See below, #27.) http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3448896,00.html? Amazingly, you don't even try to dispute the Al-Dura hoax directly. Instead, you trot out other hoaxes, as there were strength in numbers.
41. #31
(09.21.07)
more than a thousand innocent israeli women, children, babies and adults were killed by suicide bombing missions by terrorists infiltrating israel. bombs on busses, markets, 200 dead during a pssover meal in a hotel, 2 dead in eilat the past year, mother and daughter killed and smashed with a gun in the head, ....need i go further? where is your outrage when 1,000 or more israelis were killed by suicide bombers in the past years? the only thing that saves us in the wall. get it? and the checkpoints no palestinians like because it stops them from murdering israelis. get it? where is your voice of outrage when it comes to israelis being murdered. we do not get into gaza to kill children. the terrorists bring these children into the battle zone so that they can use them for propaganda when they are killed by idf during a military operation. the terrorists hide inside residents' homes and stack weapons in mosques and hospitals knowing that we may target them. they want us to do it because then they can show the dead to the world. it is a game for them. a play for pallywood and for propaganda. a person like yourself cannot concieve of these kinds of barbarous actions because it is not in the nature of the civilized world to use children and human beings for propaganda by making sure they are killed. this is why you do not understand what and how the palestinians operate. i am a soldier and i saw everything and i know the truth!
42. Takiiya
Grant ,   USA   (09.21.07)
Takiya is defined as lying for the sake of Jihad and Islam. What you see here, and what you see in Pallywood, is just that. Muslims and Arabs kill more Muslims and Arabs than Israel ever has. Al-Dura was a hoax gone wrong, which the footage will show - more Arab liars like Baghdad Bob talking about how the Americans were being defeated. It's the Mid-east culture of story telling and exagerration - they don't care one bit for actual truth. And the truth is simple. The Arabs want to commit genocide on the Jews because they believe that the land is Muslim and only Muslim, and could not be partitioned in 1948. Qana 2006 resulted from Arabs firing behind the skirts of their women and children - that's how most of the collateral damage occurs - cowardly arabs using their kids as shields. Meanwhile, about 4000 Arabs have been killed by the IDF since 2001's intifada. Israel, if it wanted to, could kill 10 times that in a month.; The Arabs WANT to kill that many Jews, they are that evil, they just don't have the strength. Look at Hama, or the Lebanese siege of Fatah al-Islam or the Jordanian revolt that was put down.
43. #22
(09.21.07)
isrsaelis don't have respect to the agreements with abas??????? funny you should say that. does hamas have respect for its agreements with abbas, or did they murder and arrest the fatah people in gaza and killed them and threw them off the roofs. israelis don't respect the agreements with abbas? what agreements. we are not fightinmg abbas. we are fighting hamas. there are no agreements with hamas because of constant rockets they send to israel in the hope of killing as many people as possible. we don't have blood on our hands because we get into gaza and foil terror attempts and foil and kill all those that fire bombs on sderot, ashkelon and the negev cities. why should we stand by and let you fire at us? we will answer and the better one will come on top. stop firing at us and there will be no killings. period. as long as you try to murder us, we'll stop you in anyway available to us. and please3....keep your children in school or at home. please do not send them to collect the katyousha launchers so that they can get killed....unless you want them to get killed so that they can be also used for propaganda in gaza. shame on you. you palestinians are retarded. completely a stupid uneducated people that live in the 12th century. you are dirty, filthy and depraved and you are insanely jealous of what israel has accomplished while you live in your sewage and poverty because you are hateful, lazy and completely debilitaed by leaders and arab nations that have used you as fodder for decades and you let them. now suffer!
44. #33 - Are you testing us? Because you know the answer.
Global Citizen ,   Israel & USA   (09.21.07)
The children shouldn't have been there in the first place. You and yours always act so disappointed when your 'human shield' program is rebuffed. But you obviously don't care about your own as much as you do about destroying Jews.
45. Re # 43
khader herzallah ,   amman-jordan   (09.21.07)
I will not answer you with the same language because I am a man of honour and self respect,I dont know what kind of a person you are.I will ask you one question:was muhammed Al-Durra the child of 8 years a Hammas,a rocket launcher ? Shame on you.You never handle the matter and answer it directly because you have no answer,you are nothing but a killer with hands full of blood ,repeat like a parrot what is dictated on you.
46. the base line
taher ,   jerusalem   (09.21.07)
it is not jihad or moslem terror .. it is the israil palastinian conflict .. till now many of the israilis and many of the people outside israil jews or christian believe that this land is a jewish land .. this is the illusion that kill many innosants ,children in palastin and israil .. but sure killing of the durra was a crime becouse of this illusion .. i know all the arabs and moslems believe that the palastinians are ocupied by the israilis ,, but many of them seek the two state solution ,, that israil prevent it by the setelments ,, but sure god wants judice to all his people not the jews only ... but humans do not do for this fair .. but for their benifits ..
47. 46 - completely wrong & a question for you
mike ,   israel (formerly usa   (09.21.07)
the baseline IS jihad islamic terror. you can't say that the canadian muslims who planned to behead the canadian prime minister were motivated by israeli occupation. those of us with brains don't accept that. and by the way, why do palestinians want to live in israel so badly? my arab wife's family and friends who lived in east jweusalem all moved into israel lately to live among the zionists, away from their beloved palestinian brothers. and when i talk to them they have nothing good to say about the palestinians. why? we all know but are you honest enough to say it?
48. #40, 41
Zeal   (09.21.07)
First you Sk: it is foolish of you to think that anti zionism is anti Judaism. Judaism is a religion thousands of years old whose followers are brilliant and with a long history of persecution. I do not deny the holocaust in any shape or form, believing it to be one of the worst crimes in human history. Zionism on the other hand is a nationalist movement that is causing great division between Jews and Muslims, whose religions are, believe it or not, quite similar. As for the Sharon quote, I told you to read the Hertzliya speech. Here's an excerpt: The execution of the plan in half a year is perfectly timed. At exactly that time the American election campaign will reach its climax. No American politician will dare to utter a word against Israel. The Democrats need the Jewish votes and money. The Republicans also need the votes and the money of the 60 million Christian fundamentalists, who support the most extreme elements in Israel. While we quietly prepare the big operation, we shall continue to flatter President Bush and praise his idiotic Road Map, without, of course, fulfilling any of our obligations under the Map. But we shall blame the Palestinians for violating it. Now for #31, four thousand seven hundred Palestinians have been killed by Israelis in the past seven years. This year, the number killed by your forces is perhaps about 250-300, the youngest of whom was just a fetus when shot in the womb of his/her mother. # of Israelis killed by Palestinians this year: 7. This shows a different story than the "self-defending" rubbish I read on US zionist controlled news.
49. #45
(09.21.07)
m. al durah was killed by a palestinian bullet coming from palestinian direction not from israeli tower direction. but then again we'll all have to wait to see the video analyzed and then we'll know the truth. if jews and israselis fought for seven years to take this movie from the french government, they must know what the truth is in that movie and want to show the world that the idf didn't committ this crime. otherwise, why would israel insist for seven years to get the movie back from the french journalist? if the movie was incriminating to us, why would we insist and fight for it to be shown? it is not logical. for seven years the french government refused israel request to see the "incriminating evidence". now that sarkosy, a jew, came to power, he also has an interest to see that israel is not smeared by a lie. what will you say to me if we indeed find out that the movie was doctored and that the evidence points to a palestinian bullet? would you have the honor to appologize to me for your smear campaign. the truth will speak for itself! let's wait and see. and by the way, i am not a jew. i am a christian arab educated in haifa university, living in nazaret amongst jews who are peace loving and generous. i do not have blood on my hands and all my army friends have no blood on the hands either. but palestinian and hamas/fateh have very much blood, jewish blood, on the hands.
50. #44
Zeal   (09.21.07)
Thank you for another ridiculous comment. Rubbish as usual. Tell me: where should these children be then? Where? This boy and his father were coming back from a car dealer and took cover near a wall when shots were fired. Now what captivates this film most of all is that this boy was killed in the lap of his own father. If the wall were to speak, it would cry before uttering any words. Just accept the truth: your murderous army killed Muhammad al-Durrah, the ambulance driver, Bassam al-Bilbeisi, and wounded Jamal al-Durrah in cold blood; the only difference between this incident and hundreds of other incidents is that you were caught on camera doing it. Had it not, the army would have come up with some bizarre statement as to why one of their soldiers killed this boy. And I’ve heard pretty bizarre, yet very convincing, excuses.
51. #37 (khader): huh?
sk ,   USA   (09.21.07)
You say that I "avoiding answering the subject in question," but it is precisely this subject (the Al-Dura incident) that I have dealt with, and it is also the subject you want to avoid in favor of some other subject. You somehow believe that I am manipulated by the US government and the IDF? Or the Israeli government? This is an odd cause-and-effect, as I have known about the Al-Dura fraud ever since the first Pallywood video came out, and I, along with many others, have been talking about it well before the IDF and the Israeli government started emphasizing the matter. You grant that our press is freer than yours, but then say that this just relates to local events. Right. Dude, you live in a monarchy fighting the Islamism and radicalism of a "Palestinian" majority. Who exactly is likely to be fed bull?
52. #49
Zeal   (09.21.07)
Interesting comment. You Zionists(does not have to be Jewish considering people like Bush is a zionist) just have to make lies whenever something you do fans outrage. For example, the Gaza beach blast last year: your army claims to have "investigated" and "found no shrapnel" and concluded that Palestinians did it. Why would Palestinians put bombs on their own beaches? Now a less known, but very similar incident happened on June 14th of this year. Five children aged 10 to 15 searching for scrap metal to sell (perhaps to feed their dirt poor families) attempted to salvage what a piece which they did not know was an unexploded Israeli ordinance. And all five children lost their lives that day. To say that the Israeli army has no blood on their hand is tantamount to killing these children a second time. Why, if every last drop of Palestinian blood spilled by Israelis were accumulate, it would be enough to completely stain every last Israeli flag that was or ever will be manufactured. However, as a US taxpayer, I have to pay you and your army for all this death and destruction caused by Israel. God willing it will end. Free Palestine.
53. #49
Zeal   (09.21.07)
Interesting. You zionists, (Jewish or not Jewish) just have to create some sort of conspiracy theory to absolve you from actions that cause outrage. Remember that Israel NEVER investigates incidents without clearing themselves of guilt or blame. Face it: an Israeli soldier shot and killed Muhammed al-Durrah in cold blood. It is even more foolish that you say that Israeli soldiers do not have blood on their hands. This is absurd. If every the droplets of Palestinian blood spilled by Israeli soldiers/settlers/police was accumulated, it would be enough to completely smear every last Israeli flag that was or will be manufactured with only a fraction of its entirety. At US taxpayer's expense of course. God willing it will end. Free Palestine.
54. #48
(09.21.07)
i hear you and i think your response didn't only evade a proper answer to my post but also you show poor knowledge and mathematical skills. believe me, sir, that the reason the palestinian terrorists only killed numerous israeli innocents is not because of lack of trying. god know only how much they try, plan, and try to execute sucide attacks against israel or how often they pray to allh that one of their katyoushas or missile will in fact hit civilian kindergardens in sderot and ashkelon so they can embolden themselves and claim a victory. the reason that many more of them are casualties of their terroritic intentions are two fold. 1. kasaams are erratic and fall where they may when they land. had they had more sophisticated weaponry and directive missiles, i can assure you that the death and devastation on israeli population will be in the thousands considering 4,800 missiles and katyoushas and mortar shells were sent our way in one single year. i am sorry, but we are not going to shoot ourselves in the head claiming that a katyousha killed us so that we can make you happy and even the death numbers on both sides. your logic here is very faulty indeed. are you telling us that if they have 1,000 death, we need to have the same figure to assuage your concern? believe me, the fact they are not succesful IS NOT from a lack of trying! considering we have anti terror ops in the idf which are experienced in incursions into palestinian territories to fish out the terrorists and the suicide planners via intelligence, we don't get in there to just kill people. we have an aim and that is to stop the palestinian factions and planner of terror bombs from executing 5their missions. also, we are trying to find tha launchers of kasaams in the area and who is sending them to sderot and ashkelon and the kibutzim in the negev with the aim of killing innocent people. the israeli people can do exactly what the kasam launcher peiople do and fire indicriminantelly into gaza as well WITHOUT REGARD TO WHERE THESE BOMBS FALL. we could do that but we don't because we do not pin point attacks on innocent palestinians, only on the terrorist and suicide bomb planners. also, are you going to hold it against israel because they suceed to curb the terror better by using ncursions, the wall and barbed wire? do you think we like to live this way? we are just as much enclosed as the palestinians are, believe me! it's not very encouraging and relaxing to wake up in the morning and during the night with bombs raining on citizens and their schools and children. they are shooting indiscriminantely to maim and kill, but we have pin point operations that exclude civilians. if these terrorists decide to hide in civilian homes and surround themselves with the population and their children, it is not idf fault if a tragedy occures. mothers that send their children on suicide missions into israel and celebrate their going away to heaven and paradise by giving parties the night before their children leave on their terror missions are notb the kind of people that will stop using children as human sheilds. this is how tragedies occure in the battle zone. just this morning, the palestinians in west bank refused to sheild a terrorist hiding from the idf in a house full of children and adults. they kicked him out of their house and idf captured him. idf didn't go into the house and killed an entire family to extract this terrorist out. fair minded palestinians know fully well that terrorist scum like these can only harm their families and indeed they made the right decision in giving the terrorist away to the idf.
55. #48
(09.21.07)
"us zionist contgrolled news"????? are you the modern day hitler that said jews controlled the entire banking, the usa government and the entire media and newspapers of the world? amazing accusation considering most news papers like sky, cnn, guardian, and various british news papers and most usa papers are NOT OWNED BY JEWS AND NEITHER ZIONISTS. are you now going to start blaming christians for owning the media with their pro israel biases. give me a break. most of us know that most newspapers are not pro israel and will accept any chance to bash it and the israelis. so, i do not see where this allegation of yours stand a chance to being accurate. let's deal with this this way. you don't like us not because of what youj claim wse do. you simply do not like us. hitler didn't like us either and made damn sure we will never have any newspaper to controll since he took very good care of our annihilation. i am not even going to lower myself and call you an antisemite. i will simply contend that you have no clue what is going on on the israeli side and have read too many papers.....you know, thise you claim are controlled by zionist jews. what a looser.
56. Enderlin
charles ,   petach tikva   (09.22.07)
He is happy that a court has obliged A2 to show the footage , he only wanted it to be shown in court . Well if he is so sure that he is right , that he and his family has suffered , why did he wait to show this footage ? Why did'nt he ask himself A2 to show this to the whole world ? Probably because he knows that there is something wrong with this affirmation that Israeli soldiers had killed this boy . But why did he it ? The same anti Israeli ideas as his colleague of "le Monde" , Georges Marion ? both Jewish , sad to say
57. #55
Zeal   (09.23.07)
You know, there is a study about Zionist-controlled media here in the United States. According to that study, in the first weeks of the Intifada, six Israeli and 85 Palestinian children were killed. Of the six Israeli children, all six were reported, and even repeated in the San Francisco Chronicle. Of the eighty five Palestinian children killed, only five were reported in that newspaper, giving Americans the false view that they are equal in killing. Further, let us consider the Gaza pullout: 01/05/05 On TV News: Ariel Sharon has said that he will use force if necessary to remove Israeli settlers from Gaza. Also shown pictures of 6 IDF troops that were injured in an attack close to the border. Sharon says there can be no peace with Palestine until its leaders control these attacks. What they didn't tell you about is that the IDF KILLED (not injured) 6 children that day. The news failed to report that. Every day is the same, more Palestinian deaths go unreported. Right now, Zionists are filling us with stories about Iran developing nuclear weapons even though Israel has over 200 atomic bombs and refuses to sign the non-nuclear proliferation treaty or allow UN inspectors; it is the right of neighboring countries to develop similar weapons to counter this threat, particularly Iran which was ravaged by the Iran-Iraq war, in which Iraqis used chemical weapons with impunity. Americans are left clueless about the Middle East. When my dad told his boss he was going to Syria, my boss asks "Isn't Hamas there?" My dad says "What?" His boss says, "No I'm sorry. Hezbollah." Just to prove that the stupidity- the media constantly makes these connections, they get the idea that a nation absent of war and conflict like Syria is evil. In the end, Syrian children will be the ones to pay. Free Palestine.
58. Tony, Jesus was jew
Cedric ,   France   (10.02.07)
...as his mother, father, friends, fellows...
59. #23
israeli ,   israel   (10.02.07)
yes, the IDF also used flying pigs. Very deadly weapons!
60. #33, eh, yes it was
Danny   (10.03.07)
Fake casualty figures were given out by Hizbollah which lazy reporters simply repeated despite the fact they could easily check with the hospital. Sabra and Shatila was carried out by your brotherly arabs. Just like the 400 dead in Gaza this year is down to your brothers. But I guess we only care when it is Jews doing the killing.
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