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Neturei Karta: Ahmadinejad wants peace
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Published: 25.09.07, 09:59
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31. What ? "Zionism is antithetical to Torah beliefs
ben ,   singapore   (09.25.07)
NONSENSE.!!!!if Israel is anti-thetical to Torah beliefs, today the al aqsa mosque will not be there. The Pals will not get to food and water - social- security net- and the human right activist will not be stationed there. Ther will not be a Labor Govt ! There will not be a court system that gives judgements for the Pals. There will not be pubic aded schools- Even Ynet will not be able to publish news of the Corrupt Practices of Isareli Politians. The issue on the PURCHASE of Property by Olmert would have found it way in this News in the last two days. Cut the crap! whoever say that Zionism is antitheatical to torah beliefs is taking nonsense. In fact the whole meaning of zionism has been fabricated with anti- semitism and anti- jewish agenda by the world journalism and one sided Arab Politics. The every fact the dafur refugees run for shelter to Isarel it self is the VERY EVIDENCE that the Torah Values and Torah Beliefs are there- The refugess dont find such torah beliefs or Truth in the Arab nations. They run to us for rescue because they know we hold the Law and we apply the Law Given to Moshe handed down to us to the whole world.That is the Truth Zionism based on Torah Beliefs, As such any idiots who say Zionism is antitheatical is making anti semitic remarks.such remarks are mans longest hatred toward Torah Judaism. Every aspersion related to zionism has been wrongfully crafted by tool of public realtion s and paid journalism. The Arab money buys papers, buyes public realtions practicioners and lobby the policy making bodies like the United Nations. Casting as persion to The land of the Torah is a lucidity written work of irrrational self- serving agenda of anti- semitism. such hatred has been woven into history- world history, european history, Isalmic teology, Islamic Extremist Thoughts- terrorism and isolated minds. It all a dangerous pathology of anti-semitism. The enemies of the Jewish Nation trying to capture the imaginations of innocent thinkers of all era from those days to date.trying to twist the truth of the The Real Zionism which is a Spiritual Value of common good od the human race the creation of G-d. Any one who say Zionism is antithetical is denying the very Moshe Rabiyanuh, denying the Great friend of G-d- Avraham. Denying the The Laws and the whole estological and historical perspective of the Torah of The lor G-d of Yisrael. ben singapore.
32. This is news????
Lou ,   New York,   (09.25.07)
Why does Ynet insist on giving a forum to these handful of lunatics. They are at the most about 10activists with a few more silent supporters. Its very rare for even the liberal media in the US to write any articles about them, but Ynet insists on writing numerous articles about these despicable individuals. Why??
33. news video
Tzviah ,   Jerusalem   (09.25.07)
Notice when reporter is speaking to ahmadinejad her hair is covered, but when she speaks to rabbis she uncovers it. It seems that she really knows what these "rabbis" are. they are frauds
34. Delusional, uneducated nuts!!!
DR ,   Florida, USA   (09.25.07)
That's all these guys are!
35. to # 16 , God Has NOTHING TO DO WITH THIs
Hiram ,   Paris   (09.25.07)
Dear # 16 ....leave God do his Godly work...for those who believe. You missed the boat ! God has nothing to do with it . What is at stake here is the fact that , just like it happens with some Islamist, we have to face a bunch of "Judaists" whose reduced vision on the world and the story of Israel ( and a clear understanding of the Jewish History ) is so blatantly blinded that they commit themselves with the Iranian butcher wihtout realising that they are being used for Iranian propaganda.....Mahmoud LOVES those neturei Karta...They LOOK like orthodox and therefore the general public will not make the difference when pictures will be shown around of the lovely loving Mahmoud embracing a bunch of beared Jews. Netruei Kaeta thinks just like any "Islamist" will think, and probably secretely approve of all the killings performed by Islamists against Jews. Sure, God has probably given his approval as a just punishment against "those who do not follow the way "...Mahmoud , who is a criminal , a dictator, but has a brain SLIGHTLY bigger than that of Neturei Karta, has understood ( Like Hitler did in his time ) what kind of support he can draw from images circulated such as one ambracing an "Orthodox" Neturei Karta is no more , no less than a propaganda tool in the hands of Mahmoud....Iran under the rule of the butcher of Teheran is no more no less than a dictatorship, like North Korea, and those who accept to be seen and heard glorifying Mahmoud should be considered as ennemy of Israel. Obviously again, just like Islamists have no properly digested the Holy Quran, Neturei Karta folks have no yet digested the teachings from the Torah. By God, Religion can really be "people's opium" and blind intelligence !
36. So what
Yaacov ,   Kfar Saba   (09.25.07)
Since the majority of the Israeli people has acceted to talk with Arafat, I don't understand shouldn't be the same for Ahmadinejad. Doesn't mean that I agree...
37. Charles #25 Neturei Karta ARE excommunicated from the Jewish
Moshe ,   London   (09.25.07)
world for at least a year now. Apparently, you haven't kept up with TRUE Jewish news.
38. The entire Jewish world have put a Cherem on these lunatics.
LEE ,   NY, USA   (09.25.07)
Including the Satmar sect, so why is Ynet giving them a platform? I guess its too juicy to pass up.
39. "AH-MA-NUTJOB"
Judith Sunseri ,   Madisonville,USA   (09.25.07)
And Judas betryed Jesus with a KISS!
40. Being Jewish Doesn't Make You Immune To Mental Illness
David ,   Marietta USA   (09.25.07)
41. abdullah . land of ISRAEL not your galut
charles ,   petach tikva   (09.25.07)
yisroel . If you don't like the modern state of Israel , leave . We don't need you . If you are not here , don't mix your nose in OUR , not your , affairs
42. ben
charles ,   petach tikva   (09.25.07)
If not the 6000 brave mostly seculars or even anti religious who gave their life for this state , there would be NO israel today . god and tora were , and are of no help .
43. DESTROY NETUREI KARTA THE RODEF DIN
(09.25.07)
44. Send these idiots to Iraq and let them be kidnapped
S Judah ,   London   (09.25.07)
then don't pay the Ransom.
45. neturei karta
DAVID ,   HERZLIA ,ISRAEL   (09.25.07)
ONE OF THE TWO PICTURED IS SHOWING THE "WRONG END" THAT THEY WANT TO KISS
46. Just Go Away
Fred ,   Highland Park USA   (09.25.07)
Like the black sheep of the family, the Netorei Karta keep showing up at inopportune times. We are a little embarrassed for them and for ourselves although they clearly are beyond embarassment. I have concluded that they are not worth letting these fakes get under my skin. So from now on, I'll just ignore their antics. But I know others with be appoplectic so for the sake of Shalom Yisrael, could the Netorei Karta just shut up and go away.
47. Iran
armand amselem ,   Tel-Aviv (Israel)   (09.25.07)
What a shame for these "Jews"......
48. Neturei Karta
Roslyn ,   Israel   (09.25.07)
How can they call themselves Jews!!
49. Why Get Excited
Shimon ,   Cincinnati, USA   (09.25.07)
Why bother? NK's hate the State of Israel, and only the Antisemites ally themselves with the NK's. Nothing we say matters to these bottom dwellers. So....why not just relax and expel from Israel those who despise Israel and be done with it. Surely young couples and old folks could use the housing?
50. Neturei Karta deserve Iranian Mushroom, but rest of us don't
davidb ,   Chicago   (09.25.07)
Let these morons, all 200 of them, suffer under the Iranians. But YNET's headline "Jews Welcome Ahmednijab" is about as accurate as the National Enquirer. Nuthin' sells like yellow journalism, huh boys?
51. @ 42 charles , petach tikva : -) ~
ben ,   singapore   (09.25.07)
The 6000 brave seculars and even anti-religious gave their life for Israel for one reason -that they know the truth is with Israel. They knew to whom they should stand up for/with- Well they stood up for Isarel with the torah or with or without G-d.But G-d stood with them in good faith. and they are still standing up for Israel. In them there is a truth that sparked their correct action to support Israel even though they believe in G-d or not .The contribution of the secular cannot be denied or watered down. You see Charles, what ever one is ( religious or not or secular )there is a moral and ethical equilliberum in each one of them , this I call the moral compass, to know the correct path and distinguish from the wrong path. That is the soul, of infinate goodness. In judaism these good souls also have a portion in the world to come. I have been thinking about the group of people that you have cited ( the secular and the non-religious) Today , in the IDFwe have the secular, religious and atheist too. But they defend Israel. I guess there is a very wider connection in the taking of the Four Kinds for Sukkah: an etrog (citron), a lulav (palm frond), three hadassim (myrtle twigs) and two aravot (willow twigs). On each day of the festival (excepting Shabbat), we take the Four Kinds, recite a blessing over them, bring them together in our hands and wave them in all six directions: right, left, forward, backward, up and down. I am of the opinion that these symbolism is a wide one that also covers the group of people that you cited. So it is not only refering to the many kind of jews but many origin of people, that includes the religious, un religious and the secular too. Even born jews could be atheist, could be a buddist, a hindu, a muslim , a practising orthodox jew, a reform, a conservative, a gay , a lesbian, a fool and an idiot too. The important thing is they have the moral compass to choose the correct things in life 9 I just hope the homosexual will drop off the habit of homosexuality ) they mjus try, and keep trying. In the immediate moment or at a later date eventually thay become clearer and clearer each day and move towards infinate goodness even though they are religious or atheist or secular. But They will change and the changes happens for good. But these seculars and non- religious also been a subject of persecutions. The persecution they go through is "Scarlet Red/ Purple", An example is Avuyah- Rabbi Elisha ben Ayahu – is a rabbi, in his life time his historical perspective exemplifies an intriguing and moving case of a believer and highly respected member of a community and a coterie of devout scholars who is said that had lost his belief and turned away from traditional religious observance, thus estranging himself from his people of his time/ era and, naturally, incurring resentment from his former colleagues of his time/ era. I read a bit here an there along my reading list However I belong to the class of persons of the notion that Avuya as the protagonist and who had the dramatic change in his belief system and thus the "Scarlet Red/ Purple ) was defamed with the Epicurean Image and such defamations was a harsh punishment. But being religious or not ( as Defamed/ slandered _)he is good Talmudic Sage and today we reconise him as a seer too. He also had a good soul just like the religious, the secular and the atheist. ben singapore
52. Lee , wrong
charles ,   petach tikva   (09.25.07)
No Rabbinical authority has put a cherem on them . Some communities avoid them and don't agree with them . But the satmar's ideas are not very much different , they did'nt go to Iran that's the only difference . But they too don't recognise Israel's right to exist .
53. Moshe , you are wrong i think
charles ,   petach tikva   (09.25.07)
There is no supreme Rabbinical authority who can excommuniate someone from the whole Jewish world . Give me your references where it is told that this was done . There are communities who have rejected them , people who don't talk to them anymore , a school refused children , a wife has left her home . But this is not an Official worldwide cherem .
54. A PETITION TO FORMALLY EXCOMMUNICATE NK.
LEE ,   NY, USA   (09.25.07)
http://www.petitiononline.com/Neturei/petition.html
55. excommunication is a greek idea, taken in by the...
ben ,   singapore   (09.25.07)
Roman Catholic Church and it was a favorate form of punishment over the Children of Yisarel, During the Inquisition even today they have such practices, - like in cases of Priest who dont follow holy Orders and their papacy orders.I know of several cases where Catholic Priest being excommunicated for they are RC Priest for truth and Justice, Natural Justice. Excummunication was never a practice in Judaism. G-d never excommunicated any of his creation. G-d has always been a G-d of salvation he salvages humanity agian and again. But G-d given everyone a brain to think and choose the correct path BUT These NT are such a bunch of idiots, but never the less they are jews. but when I see them I could recall the insident at the foot of Sinai. The group that castigated to mould a beast, the worship of baal, and They did make idols even after seeing the many miracles of G-d in the wilderness and in Egypt. This bunch of NT are like those bunch of baal worshipers, They worship Ahmedinejad the Haman but not tsnading up for Israel, Their mind is so clouded to the point they deny Holocaust ! Idiots this NT. They should go an stay in Iran, lets see how long they will last under terrorist tyranny rule. Idoits ! ben singapore
56. Neturei Karta slimeballs
Kyle ,   Southpark, CO, USA   (09.25.07)
"No queers in Iran" so Acamelhumpingnutjob has to meet his friend Weiss in the toilets of European airports.
57. this looks like a french kiss on the picture
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58. iran wants peace
jose garcia from new ,   waterford ny usa....   (09.25.07)
can anyone explain the anti-semitism thatexisted before the jewish state can into existance????...i dont think this rabbi has gone far enough in history to explain this....
59. The picture
Brod ,   USA   (09.25.07)
shows that he is a pervert.
60. "Zionism is antithetical to Torah beliefs."
(09.25.07)
I'M A RADICAL CONTRARIAN- weis IS NOT EVEN ON MY THEOLOGICAL RADAR SCREEN ! W--S IS A FABRICATING PIECE OF THEOLOGICAL ESCREMENT ! I EXCLAIM SO AS TO, CLARIFY TO THE IGNORANT , he's IRRELLEVENT TO ME.
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