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The last Zionists
Elyakim Haetzni
Published: 02.10.07, 08:04
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1. Bless Christian Zionist's & Welcome to Israel
Haifa Girl   (10.02.07)
Those of us who understand what a dangerous world we live in support and love Christian Zionists. We are lucky to have you !!!!! You are welcome in my Sukkot also!!
2. Stars of David
John ,   Jerusalem   (10.02.07)
Here's an amazing story of non-Jews, Germans even, wearing yellow Stars of David. http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull&cid=1180527965763
3. Right on!
daniel ,   amsterdam   (10.02.07)
We are a free people, we do not have to fear christians. And to those who are our friends we should show some gratitude.
4. sincerely loving my jewish brothers, because G_D does.
mary for jews ,   Singapore   (10.02.07)
toda, toda, toda.. i've been scolded many times by jews when i expressed i am a christian even when declaring my solidary with jews in other newspaper. was sadden, not angry, not givin up on supporting, because our love for u all came from the L_RD who loves you dearly. time will tell whether we are genuine or not. Baruch HaShem!
5. What a load of sentimental nonsense
Secular Realist   (10.02.07)
First of all, these Xians are not the "last Zionists." Everyone who believes that the Jewish Nation has to right to live free in our land of Zion is a Zionist. This includes the ultra-nationalists as much as the ultra-Leftists; a sizeable proportion of world Muslims as much as these Xian "friends" of ours. Secondly, let's get real. The only reason these Xians "love" us is that they see Muslims as a bigger threat to them than us. If there were only 12 million Muslims in the world, they'd not spend a dime on us or support us in any way. They basically want us to fight their perverse religious wars for them. And if they get to convert a few of us thru this "friendship," so much the better. We can accept their help, that's fine, but never ever get in bed with them. Never lose sight of the fact that they've never been our friends, they're not our friends now, nor will they ever be. We have always been alone. That's our lot. If there are "useful idiots" around, OK, but we mustn't ever rely on them...
6. at last
ruthM ,   haifa   (10.02.07)
What a concise, perfectly clear written opinion! That carries wisdom, understanding and thought to it's best degree. Well done. If the rest took time to ponder and consider instead of always pointing fingers or riding on waves of hearsay, perhaps there would be more understanding.
7. i tend to agree
JB ,   australia   (10.02.07)
however over the millenia, we have developed a natural instinct to distrust supporters outside our family. This cannot be overcome easily and the paradigm shift required would be like getting haraidim to voluntarily join the army
8. They are not Christians they are Jews in disguise
True Christian   (10.02.07)
No true Christian would have agreed to support a nation that flourishes on the rape and murder of other nations.
9. But those like Marcel who daily bombards us w/hate messages
just r not welcome ,   @ all. Stay away.   (10.02.07)
10. The Christian marchers should be referred to the Aaronic ELS
Rivkah   (10.02.07)
Bible codes at www.biblecodedigest.com which say the covenant of Hashem with the Jews is EVERLASTING. There is a covenant for the Christians, too; but they should understand God did not end the covenant with the physical seed of Abraham when a second covenant was made with Yeshua (Jesus). The attempts to convert those of one covenant to the other are not necessary.
11. #2: It seems the link doesn't work
Tobias   (10.02.07)
When I click on the link in TB #2, I get a page which only contains the following line: -10005 Cannot find article Am I the only one with this problem? Are you sure the link is correct, and still working? (Perhaps it's outdated?)
12. "Shouldn't Christians be Christians?"
Simcha ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (10.02.07)
In a word---NO. They should be Bnei Noach, abandoning the idolatrous worship of a dead man and observing the seven laws given to all mankind by the Al-mighty. You who encourage them to remain xians in exchange for the money they hold out rob them of their place in the World-to-Come. You need to repent of this grievous error and make the appropriate corrections..
13. I agree that Christian Zionist should
(10.02.07)
be welcome with open arms. Jews who are knowledgeable in their own faith will have nothing to fear from missionaries. Just say no. Besides, most Christians now recognise that Jews are here for a reason.
14. Gentiles & the Temple.
Terry ,   Eilat, Israel   (10.02.07)
Quoting from the Jewish encyclopedia: "Biblical law expressly permits the acceptance of sacrifices from gentiles (Lev. 22:25) and this was apparently the practice in the First Temple (I Kings 8:41-43). The number of sacrifices became very large in the days of the Second Temple, and special regulations were made with respect to them." Now if goyim could make sacrifices at the Holy Temple, they can certainly participate in Sukkot celebrations. Unlike some religions (guess which one) which are intolerent & have only hatred for others, our conception of G-d includes all men, Jew or Gentile provided they are good.
15. This author gets it.
Idan ,   Jerusalem   (10.02.07)
16. Torah forbids trinity
Josh   (10.02.07)
I for one will not betray the G-d of Israel. One G-d. This article is all about greed and treating Torah as an empty thing.
17. Finally, a fair-minded individual..
Connie ,   VA. USA   (10.02.07)
Too bad more people are not like that. That has become a national move within evangelical churches here for the last decade and then some.
18. Absolutely Agree
ralphsrant1 ,   USA   (10.02.07)
Absolutely Agree. We need all the friends we can get. http://ralphsrant1.blogspot.com/
19. Time to reclaim Bethlehem and Nazareth
andrew ,   miami,fl   (10.02.07)
like i said - love jesus or hate him - he ours - so are bethlehem and nazareth The bottom line is that we need to embrace the fact that our national history includeds 12 jews who went out of the destruction onthe secnd temple and brought doen rome with love and martyrdom they gave judaism to the gentiles through jesus dont blame jesus because europe messed it up - be happy because the americans made it right
20. The kiss of death.
Richard ,   New York, USA   (10.02.07)
21. "unconditionally "?? Dangerously stupid assumption
ilana   (10.02.07)
They only want the soul of our people! Before glorifying the missionary, get to know their tactics. They want to brainwash our unlearned, elderly and orphaned because they are easier prey. How can you people be so stupid? How can they brainwash those who otherwise are reasonable? They are NOT the LAST Zionists! They have hijacked that word. They are MISSIONARIES trying to get Jews to believe in a dead man/god. THAT is idolotry and Israel is already paying for that tragic sin ten fold. Get them OUT of our Holy land!
22. !00% for israel,100% for yeshua
augustine e johnson ,   birmingham-usa   (10.02.07)
i really enjoy reading the author's articles - usually brilliant - ----- we are for a larger ,expanded israel , a new 3rd temple for israel , the torah into all the world-- a minimized palestine or better no palestine in israel - - we may not agree on whether yeshua was / is the coming long rejected messiah of zion -- we will see--- anyway in some way we will support the land of zion
23. 16 Josh: Just as the change of the Sabbath to Sunday caused
Rivkah   (10.02.07)
people to break the Fourth Commandment to honor the Sabbath day (seventh day when God rested), so the man-made doctrine of the trinity caused many people to break the Commandment not to worship idols. The Commandment about idols was also changed, so that people would not know there was a Commandment not to worship idols unless they read the bible which was discouraged. Making the spirit and power of God a separate God caused idolatry. Try telling that to brainwashed Sunday Sabbath people and they will not believe what the Bible says because they prefer the praise of others.
24. Thank you. Thank you.
Robert ,   USA   (10.02.07)
I attended a black tie Gala Celebration for outgoing Ambassador Daniel Ayalon in Washington, DC about a year ago. It was a "sold out" event with about 750 friends of the Ambassador there, probably 70% Christian and 30% Jewish at this event. At one point in his talk, Ambassador Ayalon said, "After 4 1/2 years I finally get it" when referring to his having observed the no-strings-attached love most Bible-believing Christians have for Jews and Israel. Later, the Christians in the room were asked to stand and the Jews applauded us in appreciation... it brought tears to my eyes. WE STAND WITH ISRAEL!
25. YNEY IS AFRAID TO POST MY *TRUE* ANSWERS TO xtians and lefty
NEW LEFTY YNET ,   SCREENER? ..DACON9   (10.02.07)
WHY ARE YOU AFRAID TO PRINT ITY IS THE TRUTH NOT POLITICALLY CORECT? WILL IT HURT THE XTIANS AND THE LIBERAL LEFT ? HOW LONG WILL JEWS NE SILENT? DIDNT POLICITCAL CORRECTNESS FAIL THE WORLD? RESPECT? TO FISHERMAN OF JEWS? C'MON YNET DONT HARDEN UP NOW.. WE NEED YOU TO HELP MAKE THE PATH FOR MASHIACH THAT CAN ONLY HAPPEN WITH THE FALSHOODS EXPOSED
26. YNET READ YOUR POST OF #22, AND YOU DONT POST MY ANSWERS???
WAKE UP YNET ! ! ! ,   ..............DACON9   (10.02.07)
THE XTIANS SUPPORT JEUS NOT JUDAISM YNET ITS TIME !!! IS THAT YOUR STANCE?
27. Agree
Amir ,   Beer-Sheva   (10.02.07)
We must supprt them. American Jews must support them insted of their Leaders Minister Yoffi and Billionaire Soros. Do the American Jews so afraid to be converted. Joke. A Jew rather die than convert. The minister Yoffi and the billionaire are real converts.
28. #16/Josh..."Torah forbids trinity"
Paul ,   Concord,USA   (10.02.07)
Isaiah 42:1 "I (G-d speaking) will put MY SPIRIT (the whole- Holy Spirit) upon Him (the messiah)... This the Christian belief of the "trinity." I ask you, what is H2O? Water you might say. But in fact it is water/steam/ice !...One singuality, experienced in three "forms.' It is STILL ONE! We worship the G-d of Abraham, Issac , and Jacob.... I AM, YWYH, Adonai, Elohim, Jehovah 9x, having revealed Himself to the Hebrews many ways, expressable in many "names," still ONE G-d!... yet you are not "polytheists" nor are we....shalom
29. You're right and npt all American Jews shun them....
AJ ,   Washington, DC   (10.02.07)
You haven't been to an AIPAC confercence, then? They are cheered. They are our friends and they truly love Israel.
30. #8 Christian Jews
Ariel ,   London   (10.02.07)
You are absolutely right. Now go preach your gospel to the Palestinians and all the other Arab nations that have been doing just that to Israel from time immemorial
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