What land did they loose in '67? Israel fought and beat Jordan or Egypt in '67 not the Palestinians. If all they want is to "end up with as much land as they lost in 1967" then the deal is done and we give back West Bank to Jordan and Gaza to Egypt and all is well. Let's stop rewriting history to make them look like a nation of victims. They have been afforded 60 years of special status that no other refugee population has even dreamed of getting. Under international law land that Israel won in a defensive war is part of Israel and should stay that way. So let's keep the facts straight: 1. In '67? Israel fought and beat Jordan or Egypt in '67 not the Palestinians. 2. In '48 the Arabs suggested that the local population leave what was to become Israel to avoid being hurt when they attacked - they lost and those that left willingly never could come back. 3. In '48 All Arab countries kicked Jews out and confiscated their property. Now with these facts (not historical rewrites) lets find a solution for the 1-2 million actual displaced people (Arab and Jews) that actually left their homes in '48 and treat descendants like any other descendant of refugees as defined in international law. Not treating all descendant of refugees as if they were refugees. The right of return for people who never lived someplace to return to it is a national privilege not an international right.

The only movement, or opening of land the arabs should be given is the one that opens up into Gehanna that they should all fall in. And may Olmert, Peres, Livin and Barak, Bush, Rice, Ahmadinejad and his head priest of HaSatan go with them -and real soon.

You can't reason with ignorance or "make peace" with it.

entity west of the Jordan because: The Arabs of Western Eretz Yisrael have consistently demonstrated that they are incapable of surviving unaided or ruling themselves, especially at the national polity level. They have never exercised their inherent right of self determination and now they expect others to determine and create for them that Mickey Mouse "state" which will never be. The Arabs of Western Eretz Yisrael constantly kill and steal from each other and lie to themselves, each other and the rest of the world. They never miss any opportunity to make atrocious choices and mistakes and they are incapable of sustaining and providing for themselves; they depend on others for everything. How on earth will they ever make it?

POLDER REGIONS (,AS IN HOLLAND) SHOULD BE DEVELOPED OFF-SHORE OFF THE GAZA COASTAL STRIP..THE MEDITTERRANEAN BEING QUITE EXTENSIVE THE AMOUNT OF LAND TO BUILD ON WOULD BE INCALCULABLE, AND IF WORK TEAMS,BOTH FROM GAZA AND ISRAELCOULD BE MUSTERD TO IMPLEMENT THE PROJECT, THERE IS NO REASON WHY MANY OF THE PROBLEMS BESETTING THE REGION COULD NOT BE SOLVED WITH NEGOTIATIONS CONDUCTED IN A MUCH MORE FRIENDLY AND,CALMER MANNER. ,WITH MUTUAL CO-OPERATION AND GOOD-WILL, UNEMPLOYMENT FOR JEWS AND ARABS WOULD BE SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCED

William Shakespeare was not an historian!

You write :".. they (i.e. Palestinian Arabs) never controlled anything before ". THAT is an unbeatable point that you are making, Reuven. I think PM Olmert SHOULD use that point of yours to tell America, EU, Arab countries -- that there is NOTHING to be "given back" to the Palestinian Arabs. THAT point is SO strong that it will disperse the dark clouds hanging above Israel. And thus the SO-CALLED Israeli/Palestinian conflict will have NO legs to stand on, will have NO foundation to built on, will have NO basis for it !!! BTW Reuven that is the way to go about it -- about that SO-CALLED conflict.

You must be ashamed of you country, or area, that you don't like to mention its name, isn't it ? Is your country that bad ? BTW why don't you mention your name -- I assume you are ASHAMED of yourself, don't you ?