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Rabin's grandson: Extreme right trying to paralyze democracy
Meital Zur
Published: 23.10.07, 13:52
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1. Extreme right the Enemey within
Mike ,   Israel   (10.23.07)
2. Extreame Left Dictatorship
ralphsrant1 ,   USA   (10.23.07)
Anyone right of center is extreame right acording to Yonatan Ben-Artzi how about action against extreame left organizations for taking funds from foreign goverments that is treason. Your view is democracys is that any one right of center has no right to democracy. http://ralphsrant1.blogspot.com/
3. What was Rabin's involvement in the Altalena affair?
Jew ,   Tel Aviv   (10.23.07)
Democracy is also to learn about who shot on unarmed Jews jumping out of the Altalena and about who objected against the investigations.
4. No such thing as "crazy rightist activists"
Elchanan ,   Tel Aviv   (10.23.07)
How can a Right correc accurate thinking activist be crazy? It's the Left who have always sided with criminals and wicked people who are evil and crazy. And it's the demon Semal on the left who's Israel enemy.
5. Extreme left already stifled democracy
Marcel ,   Florida   (10.23.07)
The majority are trampled by the black boot left who control the media and decieve the population into believing they can bring peace by apppeasment . The evil ones know only how to demonize those who expose their failed plans and programs which weaken Israel and bring her closer to war. The arrogance of the extreme left will only be silenced in the flames of hell. Judgment day comes for the wicked who cannot stop their evil ways.
6. release campaign is immoral, stupid; it is NOT "terrorism."
dante ,   uk   (10.23.07)
let's not get completely irrational. the efforts to release amir are misguided and immoral. the reportedly unrepentent amir killed a PM (with or without the connivance and cooperation of others) and did enormous damage to the People and State of Israel. given that he was not executed, he should spend the remainder of his life at hard labour. efforts to release amir are immoral and they are stupid. but, let's get real, they are not "terrorism."
7. Your Grandfather Is Responsible For MUCH Jewish Blood
Yishai Kohen ,   YeShA, Israel   (10.23.07)
being shed, and it's far from over. Until we undo the terrible damage that he wrought on us, we will all suffer.
8. Ben Artzi
eddie ,   london UK   (10.23.07)
Firstly we wish the Rabin family our condolences. However, if we look objectively at what mr Ben Artzi claims, his analysis is so flawed. The extreme left, to whom his late grandfather surrendered control of Israel, has created a situation of a phoney peace, of increased terror, and the deaths of thousands of Israelis at the hands of the Palestinians. Rabin claimed there woudl be "peace" within 9 months of his election. Over a decade has passed, and Israel is being attacked by missiles, and is not even bothering to respond. In fact, the very "partner" which Rabin and Olmert are making love to, ie Fatah, almost assasinated the current PM. This would have coincided with Rabin's anniversary. Yet, Mr Ben Artzi wrongly claims the extreme right are the enemy within. He, and all of his good family can be forgiven , becasue of their terrible grief. However, their grief is not of a higher currency than the grief ot the thousands of families who have lost their loved ones as a direct result of Rabin, Peres, Barak and Sharon's Leftist policies. And to take the position of democracy and yet monopolize the politics of grief is sheer hypocrisy.
9. Political extremist not the same as terrorist
Josh   (10.23.07)
Enough of the hyping of this assination for political reasons. It disgusts me to see this mans death being waved about as a sabre against all forms of oposition. The fact is that if this young man did it, he acted alone out of his own ideology. If it was a sinister conspiracy, then the truth should be uncovered before sweaping statements are made. Either way, the formation of a cult and branding of groups who have no connection to this young mans choice to break the law, should not be lumped in some disinformation ploy by current politicians. Enough already, let the man rest in peace. When the people have a ligitimate complaint about the goverment, one should not point to Rabbim as a defense of the govements posistion.
10. That souless creature
Sallee ,   Tivon, Israel   (10.23.07)
How this thing could have even be allowed to reproduce itself is beyond me. I think what it did should be included in war crimes and you know what that penalty is. Anyone who supports this thing must be as stupid and ignorant as the things wife! It is an embarrasment to this country. I hope when it's offspring grows up, it disowns where it came from.
11. Mikey, extreme right is not trying to destroy your country
Robert ,   USA   (10.23.07)
They are not the enemy. They are Israel. The rest or Israelis are in various degrees giving up, appeasing, handing over land, siding with the real enemies, oppressing the Jewish population, engaging in corrupt activities, engaging in neo-nazi activities, polluting the country, getting richer (14 families control the economy), committing treason, etc. And those are the Jews, and Christians like you. We won't even go into the real enemies within..... who would gladly do to you what they did to some Jews in Ramallah in 2000. Those called extreme right - and I'm not justifying assassination here - are for the most part, 99.99 percent, trying to work, farm, raise kids, pray, and stand strong in front of a world, Jewish, Arab and otherwise, who have united against them. And by the way, if Arab terrorists could be set free - why not this Jew. Why is he any worse? If there's justice, there should be justice for everyone.
12. Rabin
Len ,   usa   (10.23.07)
It's so nice to hear rabin's grandson call for those who would like to see amir freed from jail as helping rabin killers but I did not hear him say anything when the goverment releases arab killers .
13. what has changed !
(10.23.07)
in my country years ago military goverment hanged a PM and two Minister They were guilty to sell my country (as far as I know) sometimes I meet books on the book stores see the pictures ! *** its too easy to say ; Hey ! If I am guilty JUST KILL ME. But ! it cant be that easy to Kill others. *** what has changed ! did it worth ? did he deserve to get killed ? Atilla Karagözoğlu
14. Does he knowwhat the word 'terrorist' means?
Adam ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (10.23.07)
I don't see any right wing jews trying to indescrminately murder civilians
15. In a democracy?
Andras Bereny ,   Kfar Tapuah, Samaria   (10.23.07)
In a democracy people should not be given special space just because they are sons or grandsons of famous people. So let us remember that this young man's grandad had no problem to shoot on Jews in the sea from the Altalena ship and that he was giving away Jewish Land with a knesset majority smaller than the Arab vote. Pushing the issue to the extreme, the Jews of Israel in general and Ben Artzi in particular prefer a Jewish state or a democratic state? Let us also remember that Rabin was against the creation of a Pali state and against giving away Judea and Samaria. If anything his grandson should draw attention to these forgotten aspects of the Rabin thought.
16. don't be outraged when palestinians release terrorists
mike ,   israel (formerly usa   (10.23.07)
like the ones who supposedly tried to kill olmert. they had the same motive as amir, so don't complain. killing a prime minister is not a small thing.
17. Ben Artzi is right!
Israel Israeli ,   Tel Aviv   (10.23.07)
The Extreme Right must be stopped! To ensure freedom of speech, anyone who does not agree with Ben-Artzi must be jailed or killed as a terrorist. To ensure freedom of press, any publication of any opinion with which Ben Artzi does not agree must be censored. To ensure democracy, we must stifle any dissent from the crazies who do not agree with Ben-Artzi. We must set up camps to detain anyone who disagrees with Ben Artzi from walking around practicing terrorism. We should expand the Yassam and Shabak to handle the terrorists properly, just like we started in Amona. We need more Avishai Raviv's. If we don't, democracy will be paralyzed.
18. #16
Joseph ,   israel   (10.23.07)
I think the problem is the double standard of the Left. Arab's who murder Jews are given preferential treatment to Yigal Amir. The best example is Samir Kuntar. This guy crushed the skull of a 4 year old girl, yet the Left let him get married, have two children and wants to release him. Other murderers for which the Left has mercy and even admiration are Barghouti and Arafat. For the Left the only "monster" whose release can never be considered is Yigal Amir. It is the Left's personality cult of their "Rais", the fact that the life of their great "Guide" is worth more than anyone elses which is irritating.
19. "majority of the public" = majority of these talkbacks
Judy ,   MEDIA WATCH   (10.23.07)
Most of these talkbacks are in favor of releasing Amir as it should have been Rabin behind bars who murdered or was behinds the murder of thousands of Jews.
20. Why so many similar headlines in the last few days
Robert ,   USA   (10.23.07)
about Jewish terror, about Jews attacking Arabs with stones, about Jewish vandalism on trees... This can't be just coincidence... There's an agenda behind this. And what about the numerous and daily reported and evidenced attacks on Jews? Why don't they get any media space?
21. RABIN put Arabs first
Gamel bin Gamel ,   Beirut, Lebanon   (10.23.07)
Rabin was our hero He despised the religious right Preferring my Arab brothers Granting us land without a fight. So when you let Arab fighters out To do it all again Make sure you keep Amir locked up Or say that he is insane. You know about the dibbuks There's one in Olmert's head He's really on our side man, Until your rivers run red. Run red with your blood, man Run red until you're all dead Run red and that's not communism Hamas will reign instead. So glory to Rabin May Allah bless his soul And death to your religious right We are getting closer to full control.
22. now making a video is a crime
david ,   new york   (10.23.07)
- if mr. ben artzi doesn't agree with it. what kind of banana republic is this?
23. Extreem right and settlers are 5th column
Rami ,   Nazareth, Israel   (10.23.07)
They are the true evil enemy that will cause harm to Israel, its people and security
24. RABIN ALMOST DESTROYED ISRAEL
(10.23.07)
25. Skunks
Isabella ,   Israel   (10.23.07)
And this is EXACTLY why mentally deranged Professors who wish death to a young soldier should be put in the slammer and severely punished. These people are evil. I also believe that if Yigal Amir was released in 20 years, he'd be a free man for all of an hour, if that.
26. # 8 Eddie of London
VoiceOfReason ,   Here&Now   (10.23.07)
Very well said and right on the mark.
27. # 17 Israeli Isreali
VoiceOfReason ,   Here&Now   (10.23.07)
Welcome to Israeli Democracy, a mockery of Democracy
28. RIGHT, LEFT
Petra ,   USA   (10.23.07)
ALL THE HOOPPLA OVER RIGHT OR LEFT. BUSH IS AS FAR 'RIGHT' AS YOU CAN GET WITHOUT BEING A NAZI. HE AND SHARON( BOTH RIGHT) HAVE DONE MORE TO HARM ISRAEL THAN ANY 'LEFTIST'. PERHAPS WITH A NEW PREZ( AND IT WILL BE A DEM) WILL BE MORE HELPFUL TO A REAL PEACE BY DEMANDING NO MORE LAND TO THE CRIMINAL PALS.
29. How many people did Amir kill? How many did Rabin Kill?
Tomer ,   herzeliya   (10.23.07)
30. BenArtzi--"left fascism"? ,"Liberalism"?
RAY ,   USA   (10.23.07)
Fascinating ,the way some Israeli (just like American Liberals) shout , " stop the right wing from free speech" ,"look into them'..What next , "lock them up"? Of course Amir should stay in jail but people have the right to advocate for him without being threatened. Why do the leftists always become STALINISTS ? It is the same everywhere.
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