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Israel to recognize Greek Patriarch
Ronny Sofer
Published: 28.10.07, 20:34
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1. When I see these guys and their churches in Israel...
Keren ,   Israel-SP   (10.28.07)
and elsewhere ,I feel repulse.Yes,repulse,because they are nothing but thieves posing and acting as owners. In this case, they are probably the remains of Bizantines,who were the representants of Roman Empire in Jewish lands.What does it have to do west places and people,like Roma or Grece,to do with things happening in the east?!?Robbers,of course!The problem was and should have always been among us ,semitics and others in the area,but never with these western thieves of hell! Let's remember always that their whole set of lies started based in the Jewish Torah and it is nothing else than a permanent essay to take the place of the Chosen People.Nothing else.They know where the truth lies and want it to them ,BY FORCE! They wear like sumptuous clowns but are nothing else than THIEVES!
2. How can THEY even have "ownership" over parts of Israel?
David ,   Har Nof, Israel   (10.28.07)
They never owned it, not now, not in the past, NEVER have these Pagans owned any piece of Eress Yisrael. They have ownership because it is on a piece of paper?!??!?! LOL!!!! There will be a day, and it is coming very soon, where the true Yahuds come to control Eress Yisrael not this Eurokissing Ereb Rab trash. And once we are in power, all the acts, all the proclamations, all the farce doings WILL BE REVOKED AND OVERTURNED. Nothing this governement does will be permanent, only an illusion, only temporary. AM YISRAEL HAI!!!!!
3. Edom Will Be Destroyed - Beezrat Hashem/Insh'Allah
David ,   Har Nof, Israel   (10.28.07)
4. Favor Churches give land back
Christy ,   Boston, US   (10.28.07)
I'm a Christian who is in favor of churches giving land back to Israel. I don't think it's right for churches to hold on to vast amounts of land, anyway. Church land should be legally returned to Israel. Perhaps the churches could rent the land back from Israel? I also think the Muslims do the same.
5. #2 Get Real
Phillip ,   USA   (10.28.07)
It is fools like you that made people dislike Israel and Jewish people. You really believe that the man in the sky will one day say..... no Christians allowed in Israel. If you believe this.... you are in need of psychiatric care.
6. Eretz Israel
Ephraim ,   Diaspora   (10.28.07)
I deplore those who turn the faith of my Moshiach to material gain. It is akin to the moneychangers of old who turned the Temple into a den of theves. I condemn this practice. Eretz Israel is the property of YHVH and He has given it to the descendents of Jacob. He has kept a portion for Himself. It is the Temple Mount. The place He has chosen to put His Holy Name! I ask forgiveness of all Yudah for all the injustice done to them in the name of Jesus. Though I personally have not been a participant in these injustices, I repent on their behalf. Forgive us brothers.
7. #5 Jews dont believe "in a man in the sky with sandels
David ,   Har Nof, Israel   (10.28.07)
and a big fluffy white beard", that is a nonJewish line of thinking. Hashem, cannot be drawn, nor described. How long can you look at the sun? Not longer than a few seconds at a time, now times that by infinity, that is the result of seeing Hashem. PS: Why are you even on a Jewish/Israeli website if you don't even believe in its laws - so you can release frustration at the world? So you can seethe to people on the other side of the globe? LOL!!!!
8. Get real,philip from USA!
Keren ,   Israel-SP   (10.28.07)
Yes,HE ,"in the sky"will get us rid of all farses,and the farsants will not need to dislike us Jews anymore ,because you will not exist anymore! Farses persists only up to when fools exist,when they do not exist anymore farses go~away. You need some enlightment,and urgently,philip!
9. #6-ephraim,are you rivka's man?
Keren ,   Israel-SP   (10.28.07)
You two are sooooo mad!
10. #9 Karen
Ephraim ,   Diaspora   (10.29.07)
Karen: Perhaps you would prefer I be your enemy. Is it because you don't have enough enemies that you wish to turn those who are your friends against you. Look around you dear sick soul. To your north, your south, your east. Even at your back the great sea is filled with your enemies and you choose to insult those who love you and support you and you call me mad. Your attitude is totally insane. You need a heart transplant. If you were my child I would have you committed to the crazy hospital to see if you could be helped. I will pray for you Karen
11. #5 Is Antisemitism Necessary? #2 is a fanatic minority
Liliane ,   Brighton, UK   (10.29.07)
# 5: Is it really necessary to make "Antisemitic" comments because "ONE" Jewish fanatic wrote something insulting, an opinion shared by very few Jews. Don't you Christians also have a few fanatics?
12. Victims
Matheo ,   Annapolis, MD   (10.29.07)
The Orthodox Church is the only Indigenous church in the Holy Land and have a small amount of people in this part of the world. We are stuck between the Muslims and Jews. We are the most persectued people in the middle east. The memebers of this church are just as welcome to stay there as anyone else. We have been there for 1800 years. Way before the creation of Israel. We are not those evangelical christians heretics who use you all for their own gain. Before you make stupid ignorant comments look up your history! (keren, israel)
13. Whether He is in the sky or not is
Jack ,   richmond, va usa   (10.29.07)
irrelevant. The man in the sky is a refernce to a "G-d of Thunder". Anyway, The children of Israel includes a huge percentage of Palestinians. The y-chromosome of 50% of the Palestinian muslim male population is Judean (equal to 70% of Jewish Diaspora). An additional 30% is closely related (Isrelite origin). Google "y-chromosome jew palestinian" and you will discover numerous articles which deal with the genetic distribution of the middle east. This is the handwriting of the "man upstairs". The heirs to the promise of Israel includes Jews, Chrisitans and Muslims, among other faits, as well. Taking their land however you wish willnot change the fact that the modern Christians and Muslims of Palestine are descendants fo the anceint Israelites. Devine land grant. Cut me a break. Let's distribute the land according to the relationship of the living to the dead burried in Israel. Let that be the decision maker. Of course, neither side would be happy with the results, but both would be landed.
14. beware of constant insults thrown at christians
Samantha Carter ,   Boulder, CO USA   (10.29.07)
I am one, and I will always stand in support of Israel and of Jewish birthright over ALL the land. But remember that all true bible believing christians must support the jewish people if they follow the teachings in the bible. It clearly states to curse Israel is to curse yourself! The only people in the USA that dont seem to call for Israels destruction are???? Christians BTW I also think that if any lands are handed over....they should be handed over to the JNF And if the holding are to be sold, then the jewish people should always have 1st priority
15. YOU CAN BET YOUR BOTTOM DOLLAR
Avrohom Bilgrei ,   ZION   (10.29.07)
THEY'LL BE RECEIVING "a list of church land holdings to Jordan or the Palestinian Authority." A TWO YEAR ISSUE AND ,YOU THINK IT WON'T BE PROCURED IF IT'S WANTED ? ISN'T ANYONE RATIONAL OR COGNITIVE ENOUGH TO REALIZE THAT SOMETHING HERE STINKS ? ASIDE FROM THE ISSUE OF THE HORRIFIC DISGRACE OF THE "REALITY" , THERE IS SOMETHING ABYSMALLY DEFICIENT IN THIS STORY ! WHAT IS THE SECRET , WHY IS THE ESOTERICS OF OWNERSHIP AN ISSUE AT THIS TIME ? CLEARLY IT ISN'T SHAME ,O----T HAS NONE , HE'S A SOCIOPATH ! PERHAPS , SOME OF THE REAL ESTATE IS UNDERCOVER AND ACTUALLY OWNED BY ISRAEL AND DISCLOSURE WOULD MAKE US MORE VULNERABLE ? THE BOTTOM LINE IS........................... THE IMPLICIT CORRUPTION OF IT ALL AND THE LACK OF CLARITY ON THE PART OF YNET TO CONVEY WITH CLARITY WHY THAT MIGHT BE AN ISSUE IS MOST TROUBLING, OTHERWISE WHY WOULD IT EVEN BE AN ISSUE ? A DISGRACE YES ,BUT WHY A NEWSWORTHY ISSUE
16. #12 matheo,the new testament prophet of lies.
Keren ,   Israel-SP   (10.29.07)
matheo,get out of your indoctrination and READ history before doing (you) ignorant comments. Bizantines,through helena ,mother of constantino,robbed all sites dear to Jews.1800 years ago is about when you started your robbery. Read,man,READ!Get out of the farse you are living in!
17. #16 Karen
Phillip ,   NYC USA   (10.29.07)
Get a life..... you are one very angy female. Saint Helen was not around as you state 1800 years ago. If you want to write about history get the dates correct. Helen went to Judeia around 380/390 C.E. Have a wonderful day and try to do something about your anger.
18. Keren, the original Church in Jerusalem was founded by Jews
Jake   (11.02.07)
not Greeks. Eusebius described how every bishop in Jerusalem until 135 C.E. was a Jew, and then after the Bar-Kochba revolt, the church in the Holy Land was gentile in character, following the traditions set by Paul. You can argue that this was part and parcel of Graeco-Roman domination, but the fact remains, that the founders or the Church of Jerusalem were Jews who followed Jewish law and were identical to fellow Jews in each and every way, except in their belief in Jesus as the Messiah. This is a fact that both Jews and Christians should come to terms with.
19. Another thing, Keren
Jake   (11.02.07)
What does it really serve, barking at the vestiges of Christian 'Westerners' to get out of the land of the 'Semitics', when it is the 'Semitic' Arabs who believe you have no right to that land and have planted their mosques on the site of the Temple, deny the Temple existed, and walled up the Golden Gate so that Moshiach can never enter. Tell me. Who should we be more afraid of? The New Testament which clearly says "All Israel shall be saved", or the Islamic Koran and Hadeeths, one of which Hamas has inserted into its covenant, "The day of judgment shall not come until the Muslims kill the Jews. And even the rocks and trees shall cry out to the Muslims: O Muslim, O Servant of Allah, there is a Jew hiding behind me. Come and kill him."
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