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PA official: Calling off summit preferable to failure
Ali Waked
Published: 05.11.07, 00:21
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1. The summit must not be called off!
Condi ,   Washington DC   (11.05.07)
The caterers have already been ordered and are even now preparing 1000 portions of chicken kiev and vanilla icecream with caramel sauce.
2. Palestine what a myth?
Raz ,   NZ   (11.05.07)
Stop with distorting history facts. There has never been a palestinian state full stop. Your koran and the christian bible both aknowledge the existence of the Jewish kingdom all over the land of Israel. Take whatever Israel is willing to give you and move on. You got already gaza and the westbank by cheating and liying to the world. You don't belong here, you came from arabia.
3. Of-course the summit will fail, because...
Mark Kerlen ,   Canada   (11.05.07)
Abbas or any other Palestinian will NEVER accept any agreement, or any "Declaration of Principles", that preserves Israel as a viable state.
4. THIS NOT LAST NAIL,OLMERT WILL FIND SOMETHING TO GIVE YOU
DONT WORRY OLMERT IS ,   WITH YOU ARABS   (11.05.07)
THANK YOU DACON9...........................
5. I dare you! Please!
LEE ,   NY, USA   (11.05.07)
6. take control of west bank
mICHA   (11.05.07)
and gaza...arabs go to live in what is "palestine" which is now called Jordan. Jews live in Jewish "Palestine" which is now called Israel. Then perhaps we can all get along. Then perhaps arabs/moslems can leave Israelis/Jews alone and attempt to do something useful with their resources. Should hizbullies/Syria/Iran/Saudi Arabia decide that eradication of Jews is their top priority, then we'll have to exterminate them first. There is no moral equivalency between a would-be murderer with a gun in your face and pulling out your ak-47 in defense and blowing his/her face off.
7. Chutzpa. The side that prevents peace by encouraging terror
baro ,   nyc   (11.05.07)
The PA side that encourages terror is constantly complaining of lack of progress.
8. As the past 17 yrs of this crap acheived anything other..
Linda ,   USA   (11.05.07)
than doubling Jewish settlements and settlers on Palestinian lands in the West Bank and strengthening Jewish occupation in West Bank and Muslim holy sites.
9. One Can Only Hope
ralphsrant1 ,   USA   (11.05.07)
But I'll believe it when I see it. But in anycase this is doomed to fail. Olmert and the goverment do not have the support of the people. He can't even defend Sederot and the south. http://ralphsrant1.blogspot.com/
10. Abu Mazen, are you the only voice of reason here?!
Joe ,   Los Angeles, CA   (11.05.07)
11. So cancel it. It will only bring disappointment .
redmiike ,   tel aviv and london   (11.05.07)
whereas it's cancellation will bring joy to many. Mazen can't stop the kassams because he is not in control of Hamas but he wants to negotiate on behalf of all Palestinians. If that's not ridiculous then I don't know what is!! Let the PA and Hamas get their house in order and only then think about negotiations - Mike
12. Tell me that's a joke
Steve ,   UK   (11.05.07)
"However, if we do have to participate, we expect the US and the Quartet to pressure Israel heavily, so as not to allow the summit to hurt Abbas' image or become a weapon in the Palestinian opposition's hands," he explained. HURT ABBAS' IMAGE??? The Pals want this to be PR exercise???
13. Always missn an opportunity to miss an opportunity
russel ,   tlv   (11.05.07)
The "Source" goes on to say "The public's faith in the diplomatic process is nonexistent" Which means their faith in the resistence (VIIIIIIIVAHHHH) is secure? No, the public's faith in the government is nonexistent, and YOU are afraid of losing YOUR job because of corruption in an HONEST democracy.
14. Oh...and it would be sooooo useful.
Josh   (11.05.07)
Agree to disagree.
15. The palestinian myth..................
Avraham ,   Netivot   (11.05.07)
The palestinian "story" is nothing but a myth, a made up lie. There NEVER was a palestinian state & there is NO such thing as a palestinian. The word has been duped by their lies. If you repeate a lie often enogh, you will start to believe it & so will everyone else.
16.  to # 15 liers liers
(11.05.07)
If you repeate a lie often enogh, you will start to believe it & so will everyone else . this is the only truth i ever read it from a jew , as you know all others know how you wrote the tourah , by stealing other civilisations history and the write it in your letters then hide then lie and write and hide , and after many generation when you announce these lies to public it become sure . you are liers relegions are myth.
17. Formula for a successful conference
Habeb ,   Palestine   (11.05.07)
1. Give us Jerusalem 2. Give us nuclear weapon technology. 3. Provide us with unlimited access to all of Israel. In return, we promise you peace. Of course we retain the right to cancel this agreement the first time you attempt to defend yourself. Please sign here ...................................
18. Reuven Predicts
Reuven Brauner ,   Raanana, Israel   (11.05.07)
Nothing positive will come from this conference - if it is held at all. Except for one thing. As long as the Arabs are talking with us, they won't be shooting at us.
19. The only viable solution
Iossef ,   J'lem, Israel   (11.05.07)
give the arabs living in Yuda-Shomron the Jordan citizenship and give them an israeli resident status. Annex Yuda-Shomron to Israel. Disarm everybody, arabs or jews. Enforce the law everywhere, but teach the police to behave correctly with everybody. Give to everybody the right to vote for municipality, arabs or jews. Put a lot of money into the development of these towns to give to the arabs the same living standard and economical opportunities than everywhere in Israel. Encourage financially arabs to move to Jordan but not force them. Build towns, schools and university for them on the other side of the river Jordan. Discourage any kind of racism or xenophobia. Let the time make its work. Stop to dream that there is enough room, west to the Jordan, for two countries.
20. #17 Habeb
Jake T ,   Alaska   (11.05.07)
Your TB is not as shocking as you think it is. #1 is on the table. Well, it says part of Jerusalem, but the rest will be obtained later. By any means. #2 Once Palestine is a state, yes, it will need nuclear technology - for peaceful purposes of course, just like other Arab countries these days are demanding it. #3 Is on the table, only it's being demanded in stages. Part of it today, the rest very soon. And as far as cancelling the agreement, that's a given. Who is going to enforce it? The UN? The same UN that can't stop the Darfur genocide? Or the US? The same US that allowed the Holocaust to happen? The same US that did not come to Israel's aid during its wars? The same US that is training Fatah? If only Israelis were could understand their neighbors and the American government's true intentions.....Israelis are sleepwalking into their own destruction.
21. Is Israel serious?
observer   (11.05.07)
it does not take concessions to prove that. All it takes from Israel is to prove that it does not make excuses to evade a direct unconditional negotiation; the same Israel was eager to do after 1967. First Israel said direct talk, then it said with only one party, then added recognition, then added security. I think the next precondition would be for the Arabs to create Dana(s) international as Israel has.
22. # 16 you are an idiot.
Avraham ,   Netivot   (11.05.07)
23. #21 - there is no point in holding negotiations ..
redmiike ,   tel aviv   (11.05.07)
because no one is in charge of the Palestinian side. Kassams continue to fall but Mazen says that he cannot stop them because he is not in control. If he is not in control then what is the point of negotiating with him? Nothing that Mazen might commit to would worth anything. Nothing could be clearer than this and all the parties no this. What is happening is a political exercise which will most likely cause more harm than good - Mike
24. The Arabs must make very painful concessions for real peace:
Uzi ,   Haifa   (11.05.07)
The Arabs of the Land of Israel consistently demonstrate that they don't want, can't make and won't maintain real peace. They do want, however, to weaken Israel by gaining territory without 'giving' anything tangible. They ignore that "possession is nine tenths of the law" and that it's rather the Arabs who should come forward and spell out what they offer Israel in return for what they want. They also pretend not to get it that in this case "land for peace" is both immoral and unworkable. The Arabs had used the 'territories' to threaten, pester and attack Israel before we took these territories in self defence. They continue to plan, prepare and perpetrate genocide against Israel and pretend not to see that it would be suicide for Israel to concede anything in response to their threats and aggressive action. The Arabs must realize that the only way toward peace is that rather they themselves should offer, accept and be convincingly satisfied with 'painful' compromises.
25. There can never be separate Arab polity west of the Jordan:
Uzi ,   Haifa   (11.05.07)
The Arabs of Western Eretz Yisrael have consistently demonstrated that they are incapable of surviving unaided or ruling themselves, especially at the national polity level. They have never exercised their inherent right of self determination and now they expect others to determine and create for them that Mickey Mouse "state" which will never be. They constantly kill and steal from each other and lie to themselves, each other and the rest of the world. They never miss any opportunity to make atrocious choices and mistakes and they are incapable of sustaining and providing for themselves; they depend on others for everything. How on earth will they ever make it?
26. Equitable and practicable peace plan that may work:
Uzi ,   Haifa   (11.05.07)
Israel should let Hamas to depose Abbas and smash Fatah, also in Judea and Samaria, on their way to abolish the PA and wipe it off the world map and consciousness. Then Israel should get rid of Hamas. This will open the way for the Kingdom of Jordan to take charge as the only viable nation state of all the Arabs of Greater Palestine. Having got rid of the PA and Hamas, Israel and Jordan should agree on the border between them in Judea and Samaria and maybe cede Gaza to Egypt that would sort it out quite smartly. Everybody, Jews and Arabs, should continue to live in peace where they are and nobody should move from their homes or land. Israelis who would thus become residents of the Kingdom of Jordan should be given rights and conditions like the Arabs in Israel.
27. sucess
chaim ,   miami beach usa   (11.05.07)
Can Abbass or Ms. Rice or for that matter can any Arab involved in trying to reconcile the differences between Israel and its Arab neighbors clarify, what they will consider Success and anything less then that will be unacceptable and be considered as Failure Up to this point the unconditional surrender of Israel’s ability to their Historic Capitol, a unified Jerusalem, an unconditional ethnic cleansing of all Jews in any area west of the Jordan, must be guaranteed, the right of return of all Arabs who have called or considered any property in Israel be Retuned to their claimed owners not even taking into account if they sold their land to Jews. If that is what Abbass, the Jewish traitors living in Israel or the worlds dismal historic treatment of their Jews (Jews never had the right of true citizenship in any part of the world) consider Success then the world is going to have a never ending media showing of the misery suffered by the Arabs, a Never ending terrorism afflicting them by the Moslem World, (as that is the only way they know how to fight, hiding like snakes in the grass). Since, not even Olmart, Livni, Barrak, Peres, or for that matter any person no matter how brilliant he thinks he is, will be able to enact or even put such proposal for consideration to any democratic government in power of Israel, of course if Israel joins the method of government in the Arab States, it will no longer be Israel, it will be a lawless ungovernable land.
28. I'm so sick of these contemptible liars!
Steve ,   US   (11.05.07)
Call it off! Call their bluff. PA isn't going to call it off. This is their clever negotiating ploy against a worthless Israeli prime minister, just like "there is going to be violence if negotiations fail." And it works!
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