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Hamas leader sees West Bank takeover if Israel leaves
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Published: 09.11.07, 16:55
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1. BottomLine:: This is Hamas "WarningShot" to Christians&Druz
KMR ,   Middle East   (11.09.07)
2. A BREATH OF FRESH AIRT
(11.09.07)
3. Hamas and Pals showing the world why there is no Pal state
Sam ,   Canada   (11.09.07)
The world can't understand why there is no solution to the Israel-Palestinian problem. The Palestinians have not accepted Israel as a Jewish-majority state. They want to replace it with a Palestinian-Moslem majority state. The Palestinians have no central authority capable of controlling the gunmen on their territory. How can anyone expect the Jews to take the idea of peace with them seriously?
4. THIS IS A BREATH OF FRESH AIR
zionist forever   (11.09.07)
Finnaly somebody is willing to tell the truth about their aims and how they will go about achiving them. Olmert sees the whole country as private property he has the right to sell to anybody he wants for the price he wants .... nobel prize and for the western world to see him as a great and brave man. The Israeli public hate him so at least the rest of the world will love him. Bush who is looking for a legacy other than Iraq along with the Israel hating Condoliza Rice are going to be behind Abbas all the way .. show the arab and islamic world that America doesnt unconditionly support Israel so we should be friends and keep oil prices low. Abbas is Arafat in a suit he will tell everybody what they WANT TO HEAR and he will deliver noithing but continuted terror but this time he will make the occasional low level arraest so it looks like he is serious about peace. All the same tactics Arafat used and we turned a blnd eye to reality because we wanted him to be the man of peace we deep down knew he wasnt. We are about to make to make the same mistakes again because just like with Arafat Abbas will tell us what we want to hear so will turn a blind eye tio reality. Abbas also wears a suit rather than a millitary uniform which makes it even easier to believe anything he tells us. Hamas they are not going to pretend they are interested in peace. They admit they dont and never will recognise Israel and if Israel is stupid enough to do another Gaza and pull out of Judea & Samaria then they will do the samme there as they have been doing in Gaza. This is why we cant trust anybody on the palestian side and not do any deals untill they have given us proof its peace they want and not a stepping stone to the rest of Israel.
5. Hamas is a cancer. It does what all cancers do.
David ,   Boston, USA   (11.09.07)
Its spreads and destroys until it is destroyed itself.
6. Yes. Sadly, there will be a slaughter on the West Bank.
Rivkah   (11.09.07)
Daniel in the Bible saw it and collapsed and wouldn't eat for days he was so grieved at heart. The Jews on the West Bank will be slaughtered immediately after a world leader goes into the rebuilt THIRD TEMPLE and says he is God when he is not God. That is the signal for the Jews on the West Bank to flee to the mountains and Petra and out of Jerusalem. That is also the event that is three and a half years before the Jewish Messiah comes down from the sky to the Mount of Olives as an earthquake makes Jerusalem a seaport.
7. US/EU Highly DELIGHTED with TERRORIST Success of Gaza
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (11.09.07)
US/EU are eager to duplicate the terror achievement of Gaza - in Judea, Samaria and Jerusalem - terrorist training grounds and rocket-firing sites into Israeli cities. Huge numbers of a highly-trained, heavily armed terrorist army, including PLO/Hamas/Al Qaeda, Iranian military and military experts, et al, would flood Judea, Samaria and Jerusalem preparing for the final war against Israel. The genocidal peace of the US/EU Global Islamic Terror State in Israel: Hamas Charter: 'Israel, by virtue of its being Jewish and of having a Jewish population, defies Islam and the Muslims. Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it.' U.S. financed, armed and trained Palestinian Authority security forces HAVE MURDERED MORE JEWS THAN HAMAS and are American leaders' favorites. STOP Inciting Children to Murder! http://www.teachkidspeace.com/flash.php
8. Sam, if Hamas is the reason there's no Palestinian state,
Khalid ,   Gaza City   (11.09.07)
then how come there was no state from 1949 until 1987, which is when Hamas was created (with Israel's help).
9. Rivkah - did you light one up again?
Say NO to drugs ,   see if they listen.   (11.09.07)
10. #3, Sam, not quite..Jordan is Palestine
David ,   Boston, USA   (11.09.07)
There already is a pretty big Arab Palestinian state. The difference is, its ruled by the Hashemites. Just rename it Jordan Palestine and put the Arab in Judea and Samaria under their federation. Get rid of the PA. Done deal, Israel and Jordan Palestine already have a peace agreement.
11. Khalid in Gaza City
Sam ,   Canada   (11.09.07)
As I said, there was never a Palestinian state because Palestinians wouldn't agree to one unless they would replace Jewish-majority- Israel with a Palestinian Moslem-majority state. If Palestinians want a state they have to accept a Jewish-majority state in Israel and they have to have a central authority able to control Palestinian gunmen. Otherwise, the only way Palestinians will have a state is by destroying Israel in war. Palestinians must like the way they are living now because they don't seem in any hurry to cooperate.
12. Khalid, why no state between 48 and 67?
David ,   San Diego   (11.09.07)
Yes, I said 1967. Surely, your arab "brothers" could've looked after you and made you a state in Gaza and Jordan before the Six Day War. Or anywhere else for that matter. But they didn't. Instead, they keep you locked up in refugee camps. The ones they created after they attacked Israel ILLEGALLY in 1948 and then lost. They didn't create a state for you, because you are nothing special. Just arab, not an entirely different people or nation. But your brothers don't even offer you citizenship or basic rights -- even after all these years. Now Israel set Gaza free, and you guys mangled each other. Why? Why? Why? We in the west cannot for a moment understand this. As an outsider looking in, how can one expect arabs from the territories to live in peace with Israelis when they can't even live in peace with themselves?
13. Hamas-Abbas & Kadima-Labor
Ron ,   Tel Aviv   (11.09.07)
There is no difference between Hamas and Abbas. No more difference than te difference between Kadima and Labor in Israel. Labor has less corruption like Hamas. These four groups are very similar in their view of the Middle East. As Arabs view Labor and Kadima as one entity, we must view Hamas and Abbas groups as one entity. It is just who gets which job
14. Rivkah, You forgot the part about the
Joe ,   Ohio, USA   (11.09.07)
chicken singing opera while it all happens! Jeess, religion really is a mental disease and people like you prove it! Somebody please call the polite fellas in the white coats!
15. To All Israelis...
Kareem ,   Egypt   (11.09.07)
Peace is NOT Justice...u have to know the difference..Peace cannot occur without Justice. If u offer peace with no justice, we will always reject the offer. The Least Arabs MIGHT be able to accept is a state with East Jerusalem as its capital, along with the refugees. Any other offer won't even be looked at, because justice would not have been served.
16. #8 - the PLO was created in 1964
redmiike ,   tel aviv and london   (11.09.07)
Two years before the 67 war. So what did the Palestinian Liberation Front want to liberate ? PLO - Hamas same things, different means ..
17. 70% of Palestinians don't want Abbas/Fatah to represent them
Terry ,   USA   (11.10.07)
and very likely what happened in South Lebanon a few years ago will repeat itself in W Bank cuz Abbas/Fatah is now play the same role that Lahad/SL army played in the 1980s and 90s, which is aiding the occupying Israeli troops against their own people/country.
18. muchmoud al-zahar = UGLIEST hamasexual I'VE EVER SEEN
James Stebben ,   San Francisco, USA   (11.10.07)
I'm sorry but this ape-like creature has a disgraceful appearance Nice work Hash !
19. #15 giving you every demand you ask for does not count as
Blind Justice ,   USA   (11.10.07)
"justice." "Justice" occurs when BOTH SIDES AGREE to each others' conditions and demands. This MUST involve COMPROMISE ON BOTH SIDES. Arabs will get "justice" when and only when they learn how to compromise. Just ONCE I'd like to read something written by an Arab that shows he or she has the capacity to think outside their tiny little box.
20. The Angel Gabriel, Protector of Israel: He is coming.
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21. To Khalid & Kareem
Korem ,   New York, USA   (11.10.07)
Khalid, there was no state because between 1949 to 1967, the current Palestinian territory was not under Israeli jurisdiction; it was occupied by Egypt and Jordan. Between 67 and 87, there was no movement devoted to ending the occupation; the PLO, which was formed in 1964, 3 years before the occupation, had a charter whose stated goal was the destruction of Israel, which they attempted to accomplish through the Entebbe incident, the Munich massacre, and a load of other terrorist actions. Palestinian identity and the idea of statehood didn't really manifest itself until the intifada. Kareem; the most Arabs can expect is a state with East Jerusalem as its capital (or the whole of it shared). The refugee issue cannot be solved other than by, POSSIBLY if everything goes well, Israeli-Palestinian cooperation in funding refugees inside Palestine. If you want more than that peace can be kissed goodbye because anything else is a clear attempt to destroy the Israeli state. About this article, it seems as though Hamas WANTS a pull-out delayed.
22. Terry 17- one problem with that statistic
Korem ,   New York, USA   (11.10.07)
70% of Palestinians also don't support Hamas. The same poll found those 70% to approve of neither party. Don't skew it to back up your own opinion.
23. #8
(11.10.07)
from 1948-1967 there was no palestinian state because israel never ruled over the gaza and west bank areas or east jerusalem. they weere under jordanian and egyptian sovreignity and not israeli. even then, before 1967, when the "palestinian state" was not even mentioned, there were terror attacks on jews in israel proper. you "palestinians" were under egypt and jordan (77% palestinian state) and not under israel rule. how come you didn't asdk for a state of your own from egypt and jordan???? how come both didn't give you citizenships and a chance for a better way of life and infrastructure by incorporating you into their countries even when arafat didn't even exist. how come you never called yourselves palis then or wanted your own state? how come you didn't rebel and done terrorist attacks on egypt and jordan in all the years they ruled over you people? you know why? because palestinian is a myth. you are arab migrant workers who came to judeah an d samaria to enjoy the jewish fruits of labor where you settled near jewish villages and towns so that you can have a better pay and lifestyle more than tghe ottoman landlords paid you back then. you could also enjoy better health care from the jews (your population doubled near the jewish settlements back then. so, that shows you that jews were not out to slaughter you and eliminate you). you also enjoyed better education from the jews, better infrastructure, better job oppoirtunities and better pay rather than be slaves to the absent arab land owners that ruled over you and took taxes from you while you worked for them. however, the most important reason why you never asked for a state of your own before 1967 is because THE ARAB WORLD DIDN'T INVENT YOU YET!!!!!! the arab nations kept you prisoners in camps like animals, refusing to give you entry into their countries because THEY KNEW THAT THEY CAN PUMP YOU UP WITH ENOUGH HATE TOWARDS ISRAEL, AND KEEP THE HATE GROWING AND GROWING THAT EVENTUALLY THEY PLANNED TO USE YOU, THE DESPERATE IMPOVERISHED PEOPLE "WITHOUT A LAND" TO ATTACK ISRAELIS AND JEWS AND TO DESTROY ISRAEL....A DIRTY JOB THEY KNEW THEY COULD NEVER ACCOPLISH, NOT MILITARILY AND NOT BY TERROR. so, unfortunatelly, they found you people to do the dirty work for them. they encouraged you to slaughter yourselves for "the cause and for independence" while they never ever intended to give you your independence when you were under their rule prior to 1967. they used you, abused you, lied to you, encouraged your suicides, destroyed your generation after generation, and you know what? YOU FELL FOR IT HOOK LINE AND SINKER. a shame indeed.
24. $10 TO THE PERSON WHO BRINGS ME AL-ZAHAR'S SEVERED NOSE MOLE
David P. ,   Central Coast, USA   (11.10.07)
thats right 10 US dollars
25. #15
X'   (11.10.07)
You are representative of the delusional idiotic wishful thinking that has infected the muslim world for 800 years. Your idea of "justice" follows the old expression of "what's mine is mine & whats your is negotiable on my terms". The western world including Israel is getting tired of your greed, arrogance and stupidity. If you don't start being reasonable about establishing a Palestinian state alongside aJewish majority Israel you will end up with less than nothing and the possiblity of being obliterated and turned into radioactive vapour. Wake and smell the coffee or start practicing kissing your butt goodbye you fool!
26. #15...
Steve ,   UK   (11.10.07)
"The Least Arabs MIGHT be able to accept is a state with East Jerusalem as its capital" Sure. And Hitler will be ice-skating to his next meeting tomorrow.
27. Got to admit these Muslims dream big
Johnson ,   USA   (11.10.07)
28. #12 - I've never seen it put so well
5th generation ,   Israel   (11.10.07)
Thank you for pointing out the pink elephant in the room
29. #18- Man, no kidding
Cameron ,   USA   (11.10.07)
Definitely a fellow who only gets laid thanks to an arranged marriage, and even then, I'm sure his unfortunate wife makes him slip a paper bag over that mug.
30. re
israeli   (11.10.07)
Israel has herself to blame ,gave up GAZA, wants to please the weak WEST , has corrupt and weak politicians , cannot get her kidnapped soldiers returned . let herself be bombed , announces it moves beforehand , tries to negotiate with enemy who DOES NOT WANT PEACE BUT STILL WANTS ALL THE JEWS BE KILLED . I could go on ,but everybody knows this sorry state of affairs . NB : Israel has forgotten about POLLARD , a true HERO
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