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Who’s scared of talkbacks?
Shaul Rosenfeld
Published: 15.11.07, 16:44
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61. #8 I suspect you (and the rest of us) see only the screened
Global Citizen ,   Israel & USA   (11.16.07)
talkbacks. Given what I've seen on uncensored boards (mostly in the US) there are some UNBELIEVABLY, subhumanly sick and probably dangerous people out there who feel compelled to spread their disease. We are quite spoiled here, I think.
62. I think both sides are missing the point
Israeli guy ,   Israel   (11.16.07)
The problem in my mind with talkbacks (and according to this article, its critics) is the inherent violence. castration, shove it up..., stinking leftist, etc. are all further examples of how completely off the tracks our society is at this point. We believe it is permissible to be violent physically, verbally, mentally. I have no problem with criticism and have no problem with the right (defined as conservative views on security), in fact i share many of these views. my problem is the culture of violence we have created where if I don't agree with someone, i going to do something to their mothers mother...and show them who is boss. besides the fact that it is primitive, it doesn't seem to be working.
63. Controlling Talkbackers is controlling the press
Mea   (11.16.07)
Unless you believe every article written is an absolute truth, talkback is a good idea. Talkbacks are simply quick access forums on articles. So we talkback here instead of the local cafe. BIg deal. Grow up.
64. Re; #6 Robert, I agree.
AK   (11.16.07)
Pim Fortuyn was assassinated in Holland by a leftist, thus the left doesn't really shy away from assassination of those they deem objectionable. Prior to the assassination, Foruyn was smeared by the left and by the MSM as being on a far right of the political spectrum, implying that he was almost a fascist, a malicious label that was absolutely not true and thereafter justified the assassination by the nature of Fortuyns political views. Increasingly there is no escaping the conclusion that individual freedoms and democracy are just as incompatible with leftist ideology as they are with Islam.
65. #56, Yoni, this article proves that someone does.
AK   (11.16.07)
66. Dream on
Secular Eagle   (11.16.07)
The reason Talkbacks are so replete with right-wing, judeo-fascist diatribes is that those espousing extreme views are, basically, losers who have nothing better to do all days long than be angry and spew their hatred. Other, normal people have a life. We prefer to go for a walk, make out with our partner, read a book, meet friends...
67. Elchonon # 47
charles ,   petach tikva   (11.16.07)
those "loud mouth European settlers" are those who feed you , and many others . And we saw a bunch of hatred filled faces so called "religious" , your lousy friends , throwing stones at police officers . You have every right to open your mouth , but don't spit on those who feed you , who allowed you to live here , and to bark against the good Israelis .
68. Jack bauer
charles ,   petach tikva   (11.16.07)
You are still the same moron , don't tell me that your answers to me were censored , they did'nt exist . Many of my tb's were also not published the last days .
69. Many thanks to Lapid and Hasson
Nelly ,   Israel   (11.16.07)
Only now I understand the TB are so effective a tool. Before this Lapid-Hasson initiative I was convinced that TK are udeless, and rarely TB myself. But now as I see all of them so concerned I feel they are poweful. A real vox popoli. Most TBs are inreresting, Ialways read them and identify whith. I even know some "names".nd now I tell you: you winn! Bravo! Cudos for your persistance, for your time invested, for your motivation. Keep TBackring, we need you.
70. To anonymous #59
Little Miss Muffett ,   Sitting on a Tuffett   (11.16.07)
I'm perplexed by your post. I didn't realize my talkbacks have come across like I hate talkbackers or that I've been overly negative. I don't even post that much. I guess I'll have to be more sensitive to what I say in the future. If I ever said something to offend you personally, I am sorry.
71. to me the talkback is to express my feeling in the first
muna ,   jerusalem   (11.16.07)
befor the net i used to write my thoughts on a paper as poems or notes .i feel it is enough to me to write .. and once a girl which is in t
72. 70: An APOLOGY from a tb'er. How unusual.
(11.17.07)
73. The tb censors are afraid of tb's or they would have printed
Rivkah   (11.17.07)
my tb on this subject. Most of my tb's are not printed, so there is a lot of fear in certain information getting to the public, even by the tb censors.
74. To #66, and write something that makes sense.
Maansingh ,   The Netherlands   (11.17.07)
.... and write something that makes sense. Normal people do like that.
75. You Afraid! Lastly Each Time you try to rape my PC
Tayfun_Turkey ,   Istanbul   (11.17.07)
First I am also against Anonymous Talkback, All should be registred in as regular readers and keep their own Id and Passwords. A faceless talkbacker is a irresponsible one. I stand behind my talkbacks, everybody should do the same. Registred users may not disclose publicly their real names and instead they may use some preferred names but they must be registered with real names-ideally. (I do not know how much one can trust Israeli sites! Zero much!) They must be fedback about refusal of their talkbacks, according to Site principles. Last but not leas, lastly you started to confrant me a intrusder advertesing advising me about my HardDisk and try to enter to my Pc. I take this a hostile action by paper or your collaboration with Mossad Despite I have nothing to hide in my PC and in my life, I do not like any intruders. Please stop rapist action, I say rapist as it fits best to Israeli context!
76. #67 charles.. my you are prejudiced!
Elchonon ,   Chevron   (11.17.07)
NO ONE and I reapeat NO ONE but g-d feeds me, I noy only pay taxes, bituach leumi, arnona to iriya kiryat arba and every other tax you can think of.. I get not a cent from the government.. in fact I did not get sal klita when I made aliyah. I will have you know that at 22 I am thank g-d better at runing my business than half the CEO's in this country.. I pay all my bills and thank g-d earn a damnh good income without shnoring off the state like the rest of you socialist parasites!
77. #66- You sound bitter, Progressive Pigeon.
Cameron ,   USA   (11.17.07)
The state of the world not jiving with your fantasy visions of how things should be? There's always time to read a book, take a walk, get laid, and enjoy how brightly the sun shines, but one is also obliged to deal with unpleasant facts on the ground in a very realistic fashion. Remember a fundamental truth: All Romantics are destined to become bitter.
78. to tyfun turkey
tawfeek ,   jerusalem   (11.17.07)
you can advise your selfe what you like and obey your advisment .. and you can advise any other but sure they may not obey you // you are a turkish in you post .. like to give orders only
79. ynet news is very fair
alun ,   london uk   (11.17.07)
and rarely censors my posts i think 98% of my posts are posted by YNETNEWS KOL HAKAVOD TO YNET NEWS
80. Last time I checked, My name was Steven Wilson
Steven Wilson ,   Anchorage, Alaska   (11.18.07)
and I live in Anchorage, Alaska. And I'm a 46 year old teenager. Who's hiding their identity? I don't give a squat if people know who I am and my opinion. The premise to writing is if you believe the author or other talkbackers, are off in left field somewhere, with their articles and comments. That's why we have democracies and freedom. We get to tell the left wing idiots that no matter what they think of a war in Iraq....somebody had to get rid of the idiot Saddam Hussein. We get to tell them 50,000 Americans died in Gettysburg in three days, which makes Iraq look like a cake walk in comparison. It's a checks and balance system on propagated BS from the journalists thoughts on a subject. Journalists are just that......journalists. They aren't teachers, loggers, infantrymen, garbage collectors, and every other occupation that occurs in a country. Politicians are the same, Politicians. So don't you think......................... If some uninformed writer tries to tell a garbageman what his job is all about........that the garbageman might be compelled to correct the journalist about what a garbageman really does when at work? Talkbackers are tired of being told what reality is, by a bunch of misinformed journalists and politicians. It's about that simple. Just because you are a politician or journalist doesn't mean that you are God,and know what you are talking about. And just because you hung out in a college for four years reading about what some other guy has written down as reality.........does it make it the truth. You have become Legends in your own minds. We write to disagree with these people and their Diety complex.
81. 62# You must be talking about the terrorists.
Steven Wilson ,   Anchorage, Alaska   (11.18.07)
I don't recall any talkbackers who weren't terrorists to begin with,talking about slapping someones mother upside the head. Maybe an terrorist state like Iran......but not someones mother.
82. politicians and journalists.
jaded   (11.18.07)
They both influence our opinion.If they are so almighty then why isn't there justice and peace in this world ?Why is there a need for an organization like Honest Reporting ?Are we-the talkbackers-thinking too much ?Is that the reason they call us teenagers?I'm 49 and a female.At my age the teenage-comment must be a compliment.
83. I'M THE BIGGEST BADEST........................
AVROHOM BILGREI ,   ZION   (11.18.07)
TALK BACKER OUT THERE & AM I TO BROACH THE INDELCATE SUBJECTS LIKE: HANNAH SOFFER INCOMPETANT Y-NET "JOURNALIST" IGNORANT SMOKERS OR VISERAL CONTEMT FOR THE IDEOLIZING OF RABIN, HIS WAR TIME "INDISCREATIONS", THE VULGARITY OF PEREZ , OR CITE THE FACTUAL SELF SERVING "CHARACTERIZATIONS" OF OLMERT (RE; HE BEING A GRANDFATHER AND THE BASIS THERE OF)OR, ANY # OF ISSUES NOT ENAMORED BY Y NET ,INCLUDING QUESTIONS THAT MIGHT SUGGEST UNDESIRED ANSWERS. ONE THING I MUST SAY: I'VE NEVER BEEN EDITED BY Y-NET AS I HAVE BEEN NUMEROUS TIMES BY ARUTZ SHEVA-BUT AS MANY T.B. AS ARE PUBLISHED ,AN EQUAL OR MORE ARE REFUSED ! SO ,THE QUESTION ARISES: CENSURSHIP BY COMMISION ,OMISSION OR LEGISLATION OR FEAR ?
84. “Talkbacks are one of the..........................
AVROHOM BILGREI ,   ZION   (11.18.07)
most despicable things on the Internet ? PORNOGRAPHY,FRAUDS,AND LIES TAKE A BACK SEAT ? NOTHING SCARES THE HELL OUT OF DESPOTS LIKE TRUTH !
85. Elchonon
(11.18.07)
...you socialist parasites . you wrote . I'll remember you that without those socialist you would still be living in your galut town , you would not have Hevron to live in . It were those socialists who build the country , it were mostly those seculars , if not anti religious , who fought and gave their blood for it . And then , you and your alikes came to usurpate our state . Let's say that i believe you . But don't attack those who have build this country . Regarding me , don't call me a parasite . The only thing i receive here are bills to pay .
86. #85 - charles ? you are wrong
Elchonon ,   Chevron   (11.18.07)
#1 this country was built up just as much by the chareidim you so hate.. who do you think build nachalat shiva, mishkanot shaonim, meah shearim etc.. the same goes for safed and many other cities. My chevron was built by jews for hundreds of years before the "socialists" came... By the same right that they had to move here, I do as well... They wanted to start a state.. but the chareidim who were here first were dead set against it.. but who cares about chareidim even if they were there first right?
87. # 85 to Elchonon is mine
charles ,   petach tikv   (11.18.07)
88. Avrohom
charles ,   petach tikva   (11.18.07)
Yes they are the most despicable , especially your tb's . Stay on your beloved Arutz 7 , and don't pollute a more tolerant site
89. Elchonon , young boy , read history books
charles ,   petach tikva   (11.18.07)
The charidim build what ? Certainly not the modern state of Israel , they are still opposed to this state . What did they contribute ? They even tried to prevent the Palmach to enter Jerusalem with food in 48 . But you are young , don't know [ or don't want to ] what happened here . The charidim only lived on the money they received from abroad . Even the land to build Nachlat Shiva was purchsed with funds from abroad . Those new neighborhoods were build for some reasons , first the residents of Machane Yehuda were not affected by this epidemy that broke out in Jerusalem intra muros , and secondly because the arab landlords raised the rents they asked for their houses [ Jerusalem in the 19th century , Yehoshua Ben Arieh ,Yad Izhak Ben Zvi ] PS it's not Mishkanot Shaonim , but Sha'ananim , this i knew without looking in my book .
90. #89 charles - i'm not so stupid.
Elchonon ,   Chevron   (11.19.07)
Firstly the houses of nachalor shiva and meah she'arim were in fact built with private money though yes moses montfiore built yemin moshe. Yes they moved out as a result of epidemic and blackmail by arab landlords... What is today known as agripas was built overnight by chareidim.. And even with your logic that it was with funds from abroad, who do you think funded the kibutzim movement? who funded the jewish agency ? Show me VALID historical proof the palmach was prevented from bringing in supplies, those trapped in the rova were religious jews! Furthermore, tzahal blocked irgun and lechi from breaking into the old city.. regardless. It makes no difference, come to chevron and look at the jewish owned property jews are forbidden access to.. I have no issues with my arab neighbers if they would stop attacking us.. I wouldent trust em but thats a different story.. See what I laugh at is how the left hates chareidim, yet chareidim were the model case of co-existance.. Maybe they oppose the state, the arabs are allowed to oppose the state are they not?
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