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Arab lecturer refuses to teach reservist
Shmulik Hadad
Published: 19.11.07, 14:19
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31. #14 and self-righteousness
English guy ,   London   (11.19.07)
"The list goes on and so does the Palestinians deep routed hate for us Israelis" Well, coming from the hanging judge, the woman whose solution for every infringement of civil society is "string 'em up" this is a bit rich. Also, to the impartial observer of almost every thread on YNET news, I believe you will find that the unmitigated stream of bile-laden hatred towards "the strangers in the land", i.e. the Palestinians, the Arabs, the non-likud non-right wing Israelis is completely and utterly shocking. It goes way beyond the limits of reasonable resentment. Expressions such as "expel them all", "squatters", "palis" and many other odious expressions of hatred and so commonplace in YNET talkbacks that one would suspect, if the talkbackers represent Israeli society in any way, then Israeli society is moribund and so deeply stuck in its fine-tuned ethnic hatreds (yes, plural) that this lecturer's moral stand simply pales into insignificance. Israel - a sea of tolerance? Give us all a break. Just read your own words.
32. The LECTURER
ben ,   singapore   (11.19.07)
FIRE HIM !
33. Yo, English guy
israeli ,   israel   (11.19.07)
This lecturer's moral stand? Calling and IDF officer a "yehudon" is taking a moral sand? But then what are we to expect from a perfidious Brit? Like we don't know that rabid anti-semitism is rampant in your own universities? And if we are moribund, then hold your breath and let us live and die in peace.
34. Fire the racist!
The Doc ,   Haifa, Israel   (11.19.07)
35. There are others who need this job
Daniel Jackson ,   Boulder CO   (11.19.07)
It is outrageous to think that there are many qualified olim with earned PhDs from other countries who are not permitted to teach while this clown can exploit students in this way. This is clearly a vision of what Israel is to become. GHUA
36. 31
Talula ,   Israel   (11.19.07)
You used some pretty long words there. Pity you haven't a CLUE what you are talking about.
37. #29 and demeaning epithetis
English guy ,   London   (11.19.07)
Mr Bauer says "I am old enough to remember what it was like before the wave of muzzies settled all around me. I would suggest that YNET refrain from posting comments by people which contain obviously demeaning and insulting eptithets about religious groups. I would suggest taht the word "muzzies" as used in post #29 is not an amusing little name for Mr Bauer's fellow Dutch citizens. As he states that he remembers what happened to the Jews living in his country, he has probably forgotten taht the beginnings of foul and violent racism are in foul and demeaning racial epithets bandies around by ignorant and pompous bigots.
38. Lecturer snubs student in uniform at Sapir
Barry Berger ,   Qiryat Tivon, Israel   (11.19.07)
1) Every member of the class should show up in the next meeting in their reserve uniforms! 2) The lecturer should apologize to the class for crossing a red line and in lieu of that he/she should be fired immediately.
39. #37, English guy, you still don't get it, do you?
israeli ,   israel   (11.19.07)
<> I would also suggest that an Israeli Arab refrain from using the amusing little term "yehudon" for his fellow Israeli citizens. Does your lexicon contain the term "hypocrite"?
40. dhimmi arabian GETS COCKY
Jensen Brody ,   Jeruslaem, ISRAEL   (11.19.07)
send him back to arabia
41. # 31
Joe ,   USA   (11.19.07)
Do we really need lectures on tolerance and morality from the British? Is there a part of this world where you haven't made people miserable? Your history is so filled with brutality, theft, slavery and intolerance that Mark Twain's quote about the British flag being more of a pirate's flag more than anything to be proud of still rings true well after Twain's death.
42. #36 great comment!
English guy ,   London, UK   (11.19.07)
Really added a lot to the debate. I am most disappointed to see that you have given up publicly calling for more non-Jews to be executed. It used to give me such a thrill when you wrote your words of wisdom calling for death which were obviously based on a deep and thorough knowledge of the various Jewish legal tracts. Long may your intelligence prosper.
43. We're Letting arabians Teach Our Kids?
Jimmy Dean ,   Manassa,USA   (11.19.07)
that's ridiculous
44. no apology need from lecturer
(11.19.07)
noone says anything, likewise when the opposite applies. and there are countless incidences. i recall an arab instuctor of my own that had has been a victim of racist activities of jews themselves(hebrew uni. as a matter of fact). a foreign friend of mine told me she had to quit her hebrew learning classes because of the racistness of the instructor and noone even said a word of complaint...well, you give and you take. and instructor doesnt need to apologize. we live as occupied and occupier; all of a sudden occupier wants respect? you get what you give. period.
45. not himself, not other student expressed objection at time
(11.19.07)
that's why a student can not be fired!
46. New and Improved: Whupass
Gideon Reader ,   USA   (11.19.07)
Seems like a pretty simple problem, with a pretty simple solution to me. The "Instructor" needs/needed to get his raggedy ass kicked in a prompt and major fashion. That would have done both Sheik Hassan and Lt. Eyal a world of good, and made better persons of each one of them.
47.  IS COHEN THE TIP OF THE ICE-BERG?
ROLAND SEENER ,   LONDON ENGLAND   (11.19.07)
HIS CONTRACT DOES NOT PRECLUDE TEACHING PEOPLE WHO WEAR CERTAIN TYPES OF DRESSWARE.THAT HE PERSONALLY DOES NOT LIKE.FOR HIM A UNIFORM IS AN AFFRONT.BUT FOR MOST ISRAELI CITIZENS IT IS SOMETHING TO BE PROUD ABOUT.COHEN IS CRINGING ,AND IT IS NOT FOR HIM TO FINALISE WHAT SHOULD BE DONE IN THE CIRCUMSTANCES ,BUT THE ADMINISTRATORS OF HIS PLACE OF STUDY,OR FAILING THAT THE EDUCATION MINISTERY...WHO KNOWS HOW MANY OTHER POOR SOULS THIS TEACHER HAS MADE QUAKE IN THEIR SHOES, ..OR BOOTS! ..DISMISSAL SHOULD NOT BE RULED OUT UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES
48. The 'English' guy is
Israel   (11.19.07)
probably Rustum, the Idiot. Talula seems to irritate the life out of him. She isn't the only one who wrote negatively but her post and one other are the only two he replied to. What an Idiot. Ignore him Talula.
49. generalisations # 41
English guy ,   London   (11.19.07)
"Is there a part of this world where you haven't made people miserable? Your history is so filled with brutality, theft, slavery and intolerance " Do you really hold me personally responsible for the totality of British history? What a pathetically moronic comment you wrote. Do try and deal with the issue at hand rather than just pour out bilious verbiosity all over the page.
50. #43 because Jewish teachers join the Army to defend Diaspora
(11.19.07)
51. The AG- of Israel
ben ,   singapore   (11.19.07)
The AG should charge that lecturer for anti- semitism, we dont pay the arabs to belittle our children,NO NOT AT THE INSTITUTION of LEARNING. CHARGE HIM in court . See if he is ready to say all those anti-semitic remarks in the open court. Idiot !
52. Academic institutions - bastions of anti-Zionism
Taxpayer ,   Negev   (11.19.07)
This story is sickening but certainly not suprising. The academic institutions in Israel feed off Israeli taxpayers while many in their ranks spit at us. Who got the British boycott started in the first place? This lecturer should be fired and so should every other parasite (Jew or non-Jew) who takes advantage of Israeli taxpayers using their teaching positions as political platforms.
53. Rules for uniforms in class rooms
Dr. Ahmad ,   Nablus - west bank   (11.19.07)
there should be some rules about uniforms in class rooms , but the issue becomes emotional because the lecturer is an Arab. almost 100% of the comments were racist and aggressive.....if this is what the people of Israel believe.... we will never have a peace for our children , and we will be always busy in fighting and killing.
54. Surreal
Sidney ,   USA   (11.19.07)
Sapir College is under daily kassam attacks and an IDF officer is ordered out of class. "The policy has been to emphasize Sapir's capabilities and minimize the significance of the attacks. But in the past two months, the situation has changed radically. Kassam attacks became more precise and frequent. The alarm [which sounds when a Kassam launch is detected] has become a daily reality."
55. #44
israeli ,   israel   (11.19.07)
what planet are you from? occupier and occupied? where on planet earth is the occupier employing the occupied to insult their own children? I never heard of Jews teaching German children in Nazi Germany, nor of blacks teaching white children in South Africa. Also, if this lecturer wants Israel boycotted, his own films (if he is able to produce any) should be the first to be black-listed. So should Bakri's. They are Israeli citizens. I also hear he is abroad. Is he vacationing? Or lecturing in foreing universities? Because if he is visiting some university or lecturing he should be boycotted and sent packing to his home in Norther Israel where he should sit tight and enforce the boycott. Enough of this hypocrisy. Enough of biting the hand that feeds you very well and allows you to bark up every conceivable tree.
56. #53 Dr. Ahmad
Aharon   (11.19.07)
Well, it sounds like you want peace, and so do I. So let me present to you the situation from a Jewish Israeli's eyes, and then you can tell me what you think about achieving peace: You know already that tensions between Jews and Arabs have been high for decades because of the conflict between us. The Palestinians rejected an extremely generous offer by Barak at Camp David and didn't meet a single one of their obligations under the Oslo Accords. During the Lebanon war, we saw images on our televisions of Arabs celebrating on the streets as rockets killed Jews. When rockets killed Arab children, the father was interviewed and said that he does not blame "the brother Nasrallah", but Israel. The Arab Knesset members are openly anti-Israel, and some have even spied for Israel's enemies during a time of war. Israeli Arabs and the Palestinian leadership alike both refuse to recognize Israel as a Jewish state because they dream of the whole land being a Palestinian state one day. You get the picture: Israeli Arabs are not loyal to Israel and they identify with our enemies who want to destroy us. Now, we see an Arab lecturer calling a Jewish student who just cam back from defending his country "Yehudon" (derogatory word for Jew) and ridiculing him and the army in front of the whole class. How can you be surprised that we respond angrily? What does this tell you about the Arabs' motivation for peace?
57. # 41
Joe ,   USA   (11.19.07)
Of course I don't hold you accountable for the evil actions of your nation. However, everyday British people come to sites like Ynet, Ha'aretz, JPost with your noses in the air, lecturing us on morality and tolerance. Who the Hell do you people think you are? There's nothing in the history of the British people that would suggest that intolerance and violence are so objectionable to you. You merely enjoy finger-pointing at others and it's annoying.
58. Fire the lecturer!
David ,   Karmiel, Israel   (11.19.07)
I suppose he would teach a student in a Hamas outfit! It is time that our Arab Citizens paid their way by doing National Service. This country feeds them and educates them. The country provides them with all the social benefits that any civilized country would. If they don't like it here then they can get out and go an live in Gaza, the West Bank or one of the "modern" Arab countries that chop of hands and allow honor killings! The Arabs can volunteer, just as other 18 year olds do, for the police, the fire services or Magen Davis Adom. Instead they go to university and get the plum jobs while others are serving their country and getting killed. Enough!
59. English guy, again pot and kettle
Danny   (11.19.07)
I see **YOU** have no problem generalising about Israelis, especially when relying on fake information and fake "facts". What could we expect from a guy who think Carter "brought peace to the Middle East" and Finkelstein is a "reputable scholar".
60. @53 Dr Ahmad, Nablus -west bank
ben ,   singapore   (11.19.07)
Yeah Right, there should be some rules about uniform in class rooms, Ahmad you tell that to your children, Yes it is very emotional and a matter to my heart when i see your children( Arabs) inflict my children.You may call me racist and aggressive. Yes I am very aggressive when the Arabs ill treat my children.I want to tell you straight on your face you and your arab children will not have peace because it is you arbs who have been very busy terrorising and murdering my children. This insident at the Sapir College will not be forgiven. I will not allow this lecturer go that easily.No person comes to my house and humili9ate my childern.You Arabs remember that ! My children will wear what ever uniform they want to wear. It is our preogative and our right. We dont need any approval from alien Arabs in our Homeland- Israel. No reason to humiliate my children anywhere - at the Sapir College or anywhere for the matter ? That lecturer has violated the constituitional right of the First Lieutenant Eyal Cohen. If that lecturer refuced to teach my children He may bloody well not teach forever in any part of Israel. He boody well go to his arab nations to join the morrodic arab nations . This is clear cut a anti-semitic that must be dealth with seriously. Report HIM ! Arrest and Charge that Idiot lecturer !
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