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'Olmert lubricating wheels of terror with his bare hands'
Amnon Meranda
Published: 21.11.07, 11:07
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1. Lubrication
Pete ,   Bat Yam   (11.21.07)
Yes Olmert is using lots of lubrication so that we don't feel a thing while he rapes us.he also is using anesthetic to keep us numb and dumb while he gives away our country , makes hundreds of thousands more homeless and jobless, kills our economy and kills zionist aspirations. I hope the US state department is ready to issue citizenship to all the Jews who will be homeless. Perhaps Olmert will go live in Paris with his son or in the USA with the other son. (does he live on Fire Island or in San Francisco?)
2. We are the stupidest people on Earth.
Terry ,   Eilat, Israel   (11.21.07)
Examples of our stupidity are in the news on a daily basis. We give arms to our enemies, we allow missiles to fall on our cities, we tolerate an enemy fifth column within our country, we have no end of schemes to give away territory in return for worthless promises, & we entertain ideas of ceding our capital city, the symbol of our nation, with no thought to the consequences. We release murderers so that they can kill more of us & make a mockery of our own laws. We have neglected domestic issues such as education, widening income gaps, & political reform in the pursuit of an unattainable peace for the last 12 years. We are committing national suicide.
3. So why are you just sitting & doing nothing. GET RID OF HIM!
Joseph P. ,   Jerusalem   (11.21.07)
4. If you allow him to continue, you're all as guilty as he is
Joseph P. ,   Jerusalem   (11.21.07)
and be responsible for anything that happens against Israel.
5. a Prime Minster devoted to building up
Michael   (11.21.07)
the country's enemies? if this isn't treason what is?
6. olmert
20 Year old soldier ,   Israel   (11.21.07)
I hate olmert ... Zahal hates him too .. hes ruining our country why is this madness happening get him out of power now please people I cant do anything I have orders to follow ...
7. Yes, give the Arabs more ammo: More terrorist murders please
SadoMasokist Leftist   (11.21.07)
8. NO MORE TALK, TIME FOR ACTION
Aharon   (11.21.07)
We all sit here and complain about how much we hate Olmert and how much we want to get rid of him here on Ynet, and yet we do nothing. Let's see some of this democracy in action that we hear so much about. JOIN THE OLMERT GO HOME CAMPAIGN! http://olmerthabayta.proboards55.com/index.cgi
9. stupid israelis
(11.21.07)
palestinians do not need armored vehicles or more concessions. they need a better standard of living aided by an international body. period! once their economy is improved, they'll be too busy living and workingv than fighting and terrorizing.
10. #6
(11.21.07)
you are right. you do have orders to follow. but following your concience and the orders of the ARMY is your main concern. if the entire army, its leaders and generals and its security divisions do not believe in what the president (idiot olmert) is doing, if they feel that his actions are harmful and treasonous, the army has the only option to comitt anarchy and bypass this idiot's orders. israel is the army. without it olmert would not be alive today. your military leaders' decisions on the security of israel is much more important than the treasomous political calculations of olmert. GET RID OF HIM NOW!
11. Ynet distorts again
mordechai taub ,   jerusalem   (11.21.07)
Ynet has again provided a title which has no relation to reality. Are the majority of Labor MK's who object to providing these armored vehicles to Abu Mazen right wing?
12. Would you prefer that Hamas take over the West Bank?
Eyal ,   Jerusalem   (11.21.07)
We didn't help Abbas in Gaza, and Hamas took over the strip. Remember that Hamas smuggles its weapons and is well-armed. We need to make sure that the PA can defend itself if civil war breaks out in the West Bank.
13. Olmert is arming the Palis for the next Intifada!
Nannette ,   London   (11.21.07)
14. Hypocrites
Papsen ,   Back to Norway   (11.21.07)
I do read every day Ynet. I do also read everyday these “talkback”. I’m a jew. I’m an Israeli. I do believe I have the right to live in the land God give my people before so many years a go… So I could live in peace, as a free man with no fear for the tomorrow day. Do I need to leave close to Abraham’s tomb so I can live in peace, as a free man with no fear for the tomorrow day? No I don’t. I’m an ex golani man. I did see few of my friends been kill by Palestinians/Hisbullah. I did hate (and still) these “heroic freedom fighter” using white flag to make it easier to kill at close range. I did hate (and still) these “heroic freedom fighter” blowing away my friends by using side road bombs. I did hate (and still) these “heroic freedom fighter” using civilian to hide behind. I did hate (and still) these “heroic freedom fighter” blowing them self in Israeli bus. I’m not a coward. I’m not a hero. I do love life. I do love mine children. And will certainly give my life to protect them (or any other children). Israel. Palestine. A little piece of land connecting Africa to Europe and Asia. A little piece of holly land for 3 religions. A little piece of land where 2 folks leave and are dammed to live together or as nabob. Or… A little piece of land where one of these folks destroy completely the other one. So the question is. Should one of these folks just disappear so the other one may live in peace in the entire Palestine? Or… Should both live together in Palestine? (one country) Or… Should both live in Palestine and Israel? Option nr. 1: Should the entire Jewish population disappear from Palestine? Not god option for the Jews. Should the entire Palestinian population disappear from Palestine? Not god option for the Palestinians. Option nr. 2 Should both live together in Palestine? Not before at least 10 generations. (In the best case) Not to forget the need of keeping his identity as folk/nation for both… Option nr. 3 Well… Since option 1 and 2 are certainly not possible today, what is left?
15. Hypocrites 2
Papsen ,   Back to Norway   (11.21.07)
Israel is soon 60 years old. Nearly 25 000 Israelis have given their life so we today are able to write “talkback” on Ynet… Of course… We may just keep giving the life of 25 000 Israelis in the next 60 years so our grand children will be able to write “talkback” on Ynet. We may still fight for the next 60 years and kill as many as we can. (Israeli and Palestinian point of view) We also can give peace a chance, again, and again… What do we have to lose? If we don’t give peace a chance, at least 25 000 Israelis will probably die anyway… Palestine today. Gaza West Bank Or… Hamas PA Fact: PA recognise Israel (on the paper, as much as Israel do about Palestine) Hamas does not recognise Israel, and certainly does not see Israel as nabob Hamas does not recognise PA PA does not recognise Hamas. In other words, Palestinians are divided. Mostly because Arafat dreams/promise to the Palestinian pré Oslo deal (read during war and “resistance”). Not to forget Arafat totally political incompetence. PA, as Israel, has no other choice to fight Hamas to survive. So PA get 25 armored vehicle… Yeah… That is very scary… To Israel?... Or Hamas?... What is so wrong to help PA to fight Hamas? Yeah… Sure… These 25 armored vehicle may end in Hamas possession… So?... Will Hamas be more dangerous because of the possession of these 25 Armored vehicle?... In anyway, at the worse, at least 25 000 Israelis will die during the next 60 years. Don’t you guys love your children?... Many of you make me sick… There are many good Jews… There are many bad Jews as well… There are may bad Palestinians… There are many god Palestinians as well… So because you are Jews (especially those leaving in Diaspora), you are better and knows better what is good for me and mine children leaving In Israel?... So because God have given “you” the land of Israel that should mean… No mercy… No pity… Keep the holy land at any cost… Even if that’s mean at least 25 000 Israelis will die the next 60 year… Telling you the thru, the settlers don’t deserve my blood, not when peace is in fact on sight if only we give it a chance… Telling you the thru, the settlers don’t deserve my blood, not when peace is in fact on sight if only we give it a chance… And if you guys are right... Well... I will have to give my blood because of “my mistake”... Will you?... I guess not... As well as don’t believe you will by not giving peace a chance, read come down here and fight them for the Holy Land. Some time, few of you make me ashamed being Jew... Even being Israeli…
16. #2 - Terry, 'We are not the stupidest people on earth" .
redmiike ,   tel aviv   (11.21.07)
We are perhaps the best mentally equipped people on earth at the moment. There are around 7 kinds of intelligences and Jews have the kind that is required by the world right now - IQ. This does not mean that Jews would survive for long on a desert island that required hunting skills etc - just and example . Around 97% of Israelis want to get rid of Olmert so they are not 'stupid'. I made Aliyah 4 years ago and don't know how to get rid of him except wait for the next elections or hope that ill health causes him to step down. If you know what to do then tell us - the 97% Mike
17. #9 - Dream on and then perhaps learn about Islam
redmiike ,   tel aviv and london   (11.21.07)
It seems that you have no understanding of Islam's aims and are looking at it from a very naive perspective. The battle is not between Israel and the Palestinians but is global! Please read the following and see if it helps .. Mike http://hudna.notlong.com
18. #12 - you're out of touch and out of time !
redmiike ,   tel aviv and london   (11.21.07)
The PA has no interest in peace with Israel - NONE! Take, give nothing, rest, take give nothing, rest .. until the job is done! Mike http://hudna.notlong.com
19. Lubricating Wheels of Terror
Mel Fishman ,   Bowie, Maryland USA   (11.21.07)
Amnon Meranda is right. For every deal made with the Palestineans they reneg. While Israel gives in to their demands Israel gets nothing back. What about the Israeli hostages? Before we release any Pales. prisoners lets get back the Israeli hostages. Now those "momzerim" want vehicles--lets start making strong demands upon them. My heart goes out to the citizens of Sdorit being bombarded on a day to day basis. I get so angry over these injustices I ask myself how can you give these people statehood. Their leaders have consistantly stolen money from their own people.
20. Another Zionist plot
Jon ,   California, USA   (11.21.07)
Releasing hundreds of murderous sworn enemies from jail and then supplying them with high-end lethal weapons? Nah, no one's THAT stupid! No one's THAT psychotic! No one has THAT little respect for their fellow citizens! It must be a trick! Another Zionist plot!!!
21. OLMERT IS A CRIMINAL WHO HELPS ARAB TERROR
(11.21.07)
22. Pete from Bat Yam #1
Chaya ,   Bat Yam, Israel   (11.21.07)
You are so right!! I am seething at what I am reading!! And why don't Shas and Lieberman's party just leave the govt already??? What the hell is going on here???
23. Protests are not enough
Frank ,   Canada   (11.21.07)
Bibi must declare that Olmert, Livni and Barak will be put on trial for treason if they want to create a terror state.
24. Why hasnt Shas and Lieberman stepped down yet?
freejay3 ,   Israel   (11.21.07)
If they did, Olmerts government would collapse..........they are as implicent to this greedy treachorous activity as much as Olmert, for their lack of action! Bibi is also to blame and they all must eventually be held accountable! They only care about themselves, not the people they represent. Disgusting greedy fools!
25. Papsen (15 & 16) - who you calling a hypocrite
YMBMY ,   Modi'in, Israel   (11.21.07)
As someone who moved here at a time the Prime Minister's sons are overseas, nowhere near protecting us, I think you should rethink who the Hypocrites are. As to your points - The "Pals" recognize us? You heard their reaction to the definiton of Israel as a Jewish State - they want no part of that - and you know why - like every other Arab country - they wish to get rid of the Jewish presence. Give peace a chance - Nice slogan - makes for a good song. How many chances will we give until you and others like you realize that when they show that are willing AND capable of making peace we will be ready to accept them (like Sadat or Hussein) - Let me remind you - We propped them up with prisoner releases and they voted in Hamas. We continued dialogue with them and Shalit was taken. We left Gaza to give them more land and our houses of worship were ransacked. We clamped down on settlement activity and just yesterday one of their own (i.e., Fatah, led by Abbas) kills a Jews in cold blood - and you want to give these people better weaponry - What are you nuts??? So you ask - what other option is there - first - this is easy - No discussions with Abbas - he is a joke with no authority. He has not gotten Shalit back nor has he stopped the daily rocket fire on Sderot. Instead, we go back and say to their elected leaders that we are here to stay and if they choose to negotiate that with us, they do it on our terms - i.e., stop terror and return Shalit, then we talk. The "give peace a chance mantra" is a joke when the other side uses the "peace" to stockpile weapons and kidnap or kill our soldiers. Unfortunately for you, some of us here are looking for real peace. Yes, we realize it make take more sacrifices, but better that the enemy realizes that we we are as firm in our commitments to our land and people as we are to our desire for peace; That we will not settle for an illusory peace that (as in Oslo), when something does not go their way, they start killing us with the weaponry we gave them. One more thing - when this government finally gets the guts to do the right thing, they should tell the US that if confidence builders are desired, the US should also build confidence by releasing Jonathan Pollard (as Bill "Chicken" Clinton promised to do).
26. The Manipulations of the wolves
Brod ,   USA   (11.21.07)
The contamination of the wolves on those who frequently meet with them is contagious. They are hypnotized to the manipulations of the wolves. Familiarity breeds contempt. This is endangering the national security of Israel.
27.  WILL WE , OR WILL HE BE THE SCAPE GOAT OF ANNAPOLIS
ROLAND SEENER ,   LONDON ENGLAND   (11.21.07)
WHEN CAN WE ASSUME A PRIME MINISTER TO BE MAD, WHO HAS THE POWER CLINICALLY AND POLITICALLY TO DETERMINE THAT HE MUST NOT CONTINUE TO FUNCTION IN THIS CAPACITY IMMEDIATELY ,BEING A DANGER TO THE STATE OF A DEMOCRATIC SOCIETY,SOME WILL SAY THAT HE IS QUITE INORDER TO CONTINUE IN OFFICE ,WHILST OTHERS WILL DISAGREE.I SUGGEST THAT THIS STRAIN REQUIRES A MAN TO UNDERGO 3 MONTHLY PHYSICAL AND MENTAL CHECK-UPS BY A TEAM OF MEDICAL PRACTITIONERS FOR WHICH IT IS NECESSARY TO ABIDE BY ANY CONCLUSIONS THAT THEY REACH .SUCH CONTROVERSIAL DECISIONS BY THE PRESENT PRIME MINISTER NECESSITATES A FAIR JUDGEMENT FOR AN INDIVIDUAL UNDER INORDINATE STRAIN , VITAL DECISSIONS HAVE TO BE MADE AT ANNAPOLIS . IT IS TOO MUCH FOR ONE MAN TO NEGOTIATE AND TAKE CHARGE OF THE FATE OF THE STATE OF ISRAEL .MORE FOOLISH DECISIONS CANNOT BE RULED OUT.BUT OTHERS MIGHT THINK OTHERWISE. AND GO FOR THE PRESENT STATUS QUO.....THIS MUST NOT BE THEIR PRIVILEGE
28. it's unbeleivable!
oded   (11.21.07)
bring this govt. of shame down... arrest olmert for treason and corruption... bring a unity govt. that will lead this country out of the abyss... put an ultimatum to iran- disarm or...... void and null all agreements with the palis.... bomb gaza on a daily basis...cut water ,electricty and fisihing rights.. end this insanity now!!!!
29. The future...
David ,   Hartford USA   (11.21.07)
When the next intifada breaks out with Hamas/Fatah/Hizbollah holding hands, (and other things...), and shooting our own bullits at us, we will know who to blame: OURSELVES. We allowed Olmert enough rope and he has hung us all. The next fight will not be on someone else's homeland, it will be on ours. Once again we will be in a fight for our existance. Mr. Olmert, please do nothing more until the three soldiers are released. Can't you do that for Israel?
30. ACTION NOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
poitcha ,   Israel   (11.21.07)
Olmert doesn't only show contempt for our defense establishment, but he shows contempt for our society as a whole. Instead of getting our youngsters-our future generation off the streets and back into the classrooms where they belong...he is giving away the taxpayer's money on military equipment to our enemy. Why not use this money to increase the salary of teachers? Olmert is a total disgrace to Israeli society. The time has come for us ALL to unite and take to the streets !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He is out of control and must be stopped. Let's organize a national demonstration....teachers, pupils, pensioners.....ALL concerned citizens...all of us who want the Eretz Israel we were once so proud of. It is not too late. Stop OLMERT!!!!! Let us be a nation of strength again...a people to be reckoned with...a power in the ME and the world...a respectable and respected people once again. COME ON....who is with me?
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