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Holocaust deniers to speak at Oxford
Avi Belizovsky
Published: 25.11.07, 17:19
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1. no surprises there
Pathetic POMs ,   but we see all.   (11.25.07)
The Holocaust is no longer part of teh education curriculum in the UK.
2. Why did UK hang Lord HAW HAW-he wasnt allowed free speech
Alan ,   SA   (11.25.07)
This was the British Nazi who broadcast propaganda lies from Nazi Germany during WW2. Also John Amery also hanged for free speech despite being an upper class member of uk society.
3. Oxford-another Columbia univ. Letting evil into their school
debra ,   usa   (11.25.07)
making a pact with the devil, antisemitism, under the phoney excuse of free speech.
4. UK dream team- Holocaust denier+UK top Nazi
Alan ,   SA   (11.25.07)
5. DEBATING THE LIARS, REVISIONISTS & FAIRY TALE TELLERS
David P. ,   Central Coast, USA   (11.25.07)
is what this is and nothing more, a sick and twisted collection of fictional characters with tasteless idea's
6. OXFORD UNIVERSITY EXTENDS INVITATION TO THE DEVIL
ROLAND SEENER ,   LONDON ENGLAND   (11.25.07)
THIS UNIVERSITY IS CORRUPT.IF THE DEVIL SHOULD SHOW UP,HE WOULD NO DOUBT BE INVITED TO EXPRESS HIS VIEWS.OXFORD UNIVERSITY SHOULD THEREFORE HAVE AN ACADEMIC BOYCOTT IMPOSED ON IT BY AS MANY UNIVERSITIES AS POSSIBLE .FREE-SPEECH AND DEMOCRACY CANNOT SUPPORT THOSE THAT HAVE PROVEN THAT THEY CAN CORRUPT HISTORY AND EXPOUND VIEWS TO AN IGNORANT ACADEMIC AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO REMAIN SO, IN THE FACE OF IRREFUTABLE FACTS..THIS GAUNTLET MUST BE THROWN DOWN,TO REDRESS THE BALANCE ,TRUTH MUST PREVAIL SO THAT THIS EVIL WORLD DOES NOT BECOME MORE CORRUPT THAN IT ALREADY IS.!
7. donĀ“t cry. Just go there a refute them
oscar ,   buenos aires   (11.25.07)
8. DONT TURN THE SHOA INTO A SACRED COW!
Aharon   (11.25.07)
There is NOTHING WRONG with inviting holocaust deniers for a debate at a University, just as Meir Kahane was invited to speak in Universities in America when he was alive. Free speech is meant to protect controversial speech. The holocaust mustn't become a sacred cow that everyone is afraid to investigate or question. That is contrary to democracy, and contrary to the inquisitive nature of Judaism. The best way to answer holocaust deniers is debate them, not give them credibility by silencing them.
9. infants running the union r glutted w/anti-Jewish prejudice
dante ,   uk   (11.26.07)
10. why give them credibility
arthur ,   jersey City usa   (11.26.07)
Brit antisemitism, first the boycott the major of London, now this Oxford is not promoting free speach it is intentionally denying the Holocaust
11. Not a matter of freedom of speech
Micha   (11.26.07)
There are so many people who have positive messages. Why invite someone who is utterly racist and whose sole mission is to provoke the Jews and to deny the atrocity that was the Holocaust. Do you bring in someone to debate the flatness of the earth? No, you don't. By Oxford students' similar logic, you should bring people in to debate fantasy, not reality. What a crock and how typical, unfortunately, of British arrogance. Screw them and I hope it bites them back eventually.
12. Well said numbber 8!
Sheldon ,   earth   (11.26.07)
Why shouldn't we debate with Holocaust deniers? We are giving them more credibility that they deserve. By letting them expose their 'flimzy' ideas, they will redicule themselves. and stop using the Anti-semitic card right, left and center! That also makes the world so banal!.
13. Yes it IS time to say 'kaddish' for UK -end
chico ,   usa   (11.26.07)
14. Lets all calm down.
Andy Hearn ,   London, England   (11.26.07)
Although David Irving is on the record as saying things which have caused offence he is NOT a holocaust denier. Irving openly concedes that the Nazis murdered million of Jews and other in WW2. What Irving does challenge is the precise nature of the Auschwitz concentration camp. If Irving is wrong on Auschwitz then lets just use the historical record to demonstrate that hes wrong.
15. Free Speech
Richard ,   London UK   (11.26.07)
It should be remembered that Griffin and Irving will be part of a debate so their views will be open to scrutiny and refutal. This is perhaps a provocative action by the Oxford Union but Mr Irving's publications are available to download from the Net and can be found in some second hand bookshops. Also the debate will primarily be concerned about the boundaries of free speech, something which is pertinent to all democracies.
16. ##13 chic usa. Kaddish for uk
Ramachandran Nair ,   India   (11.26.07)
you will end up saying kaddish for every other country. you(jews) are so arrogant
17. Holocaut Denier
Beverley   (11.26.07)
the holocaust has NEVER been part of the curriculum here - sorry to disappoint you - and why should it be ? it isn't our history after all !
18. Now this would be the same
mother of four ,   Israel   (11.26.07)
Oxford Union that "would under no circumstances fight for King and Country" in 1933. Enough said. Let them keep talking while the real world moves on.
19. The Brits Have a Huge Criminal History
(11.27.07)
of their own to discuss and debate. Why are they discussing others?
20. correction - I quoted 19, not Mother of four
We Jews   (11.27.07)
21. Ramachandran Nair - have you heard the news?
We Jews   (11.27.07)
No one cares about your, racist, xenophobic, bigoted, prejudice, anti-social, anti-Semitic, ignoramus outlook. Get well.
22. #19 - agreed!
We Jews   (11.27.07)
23. #17 - what a short memory
We Jews   (11.27.07)
When Perl Harbor was bombed, the brits were in a way relieved with the smug knowledge that the US's now inevitable participation in Hitler's War on the free world was akin to the cavalry coming to save your sorry butts from certain German invasion. The US was already on a war footing, and the UK had already appealed for much assistance by that stage. Lets face it Beverley, you either have a very small brain, or a very short memory. But if one was to take your narrow view, then why, indeed (as asked above by '#19 Mother of four') are the English are so keen on debating others crimes instead of debating the many, many crimes committed by the English against humanity (as in Ireland, Americas, INDIA- Ramachandran Nair!) in history? Oh yeah, here, this says it all: It is a matter of history that when Supreme Commander of the Allied Forces, General Dwight Eisenhower, found the victims of the death camps he ordered all possible photographs to be taken, and for the German people from surrounding villages to be ushered through the camps and even made to bury the dead. He did this because he said in words to this effect: 'Get it all on record now - get the films - get the witnesses - because somewhere down the track of history, some bastard will get up and say that this never happened'. "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke. In Memorial Last week (Beverlly), the UK removed The Holocaust from its school curriculum because it 'offended' the Muslim population which claims it never occurred. This is a frightening portent of the fear that is gripping the world and how easily each country is giving into it. It is now more than 60 years after the Second World War in Europe ended. Remember: six million Jews, 20 million Russians, 10 million Christians and 1,900 Catholic priests were murdered, massacred, raped, burned, starved and humiliated while the German and Russian peoples looked the other way! Now, more than ever, with Iran, among others poised to speak publicaly, claiming the Holocaust to be 'a myth,'
24. ##21 We Jews.
Ramachandran Nair ,   India   (11.29.07)
You care .
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