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Kissinger in 1969: Israelis most likely to use nukes
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Published: 29.11.07, 15:39
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1. A brilliant policy, well done Peres
(11.29.07)
2. Only one country has used the bomb and it wasn't Israel
Judah ,   Golan Heights,ISRAEL   (11.29.07)
3.  because Israelis
Ben Hur ,   Manhattan, USA   (11.29.07)
are "one of the few people whose survival is genuinely threatened." Of course that little tid bit wasn't scandalous enough for such an alarming healine. Keep blaming the reaction to the problem, and not the problem.
4. The country "most likely to use nuclear weapons"
Larry ,   Eastbourne, UK   (11.29.07)
So far as I am aware, the only country "to actually use their nuclear weapons" is the United States. Don't you just love US hypocrisy?
5. what about the korean war?
matt ,   israel   (11.29.07)
Lets not forget that the US wanted to use nuclear weapons during the korean war.
6. what do you expect from the typical self hating renegade
Bernie ,   Seattle WA   (11.29.07)
In tanach it says Meharsayich U Machrivayich mimcha Yaytzeyu- Your destroyers and demolishers will come out from within yourself. Kissinger was a renegade apostate Jew who had no love for Israel or Jews. As bad a reputation as Nixon had for being a bigot, he loved Israel and the Jews light years beyond Kissinger
7. the old fart
israeli ,   israeli   (11.29.07)
Kissinger was already an old fart in 1969. Israel hasn't used its alleged nuclear weapons so far and is not threatening to do so in the future. Iran is the one threatening nuclear Holocaust on the Middle East, just to remove the Zionist entity. So why use the inflammatory "Stop Israeli Nukes" on your front page as if we were issuing an ultimatum on someone ?
8. the arabs would still want nukes even if Israel didnt have
zionist forever   (11.29.07)
Its flawed thinking to say that if Israel didnt get nukes first there would be no ME arms race what would have happened is the arabs got there first and Israel would be the one without the nukes wanting to aquire them. Its like the cold war if the Soviets had got the nukes before the Americans it would have meant no arms race it would have mean that the US was playing catch up it wouldnt have meant no cold war because the Americans didnt get there first. Maybe Israel stole neuclear materials from the US maybe it didnt but thats not an issue that concerns weather or not there would have been an arms race all it meant was Israel stole some American neuclear material and even then its not factual evidence just suspicions. The nukes are also the only hold over the US Israel has in their demand that the arabs dont get given weapons as advanced and Israel buys. The Americans want to make sure if there is another war Israel can win without the need for nukes take those weapons away and Israel wont have anything over America anymore and they will sell what they want to who they want no strings attached on how much it affects Israels security. Israel spends mainly American money on American weapons but if the Saudis want to come along with their own money buy what they are currently denied because of this desire to keep Israel on top the dollar signs would replace any desire to keep Israel safe.
9. it was nukes that made Nixon send Israel weapons in 1973
zionist forever   (11.29.07)
During the Yom Kippur war despite requests to the Nixon administration for new weapons to make up for early losses and allowing Israel to go on the offensive Israel was constantly denied those requests. Golda Meir reminded them what Israel had as a last resort if it went under as it was starting to look might happen and then suddenly the Americans couldnt send enough new convential weapons and after the war the policy of anual millitary aid began. Nixon didnt like Israel having nukes not because of a fear over creating an arms race in the Middle East but because it gave Israel some influence in America and meant that America would have to garuntee to make sure Israel continued to win conventional wars so there would be no need for the nukes.
10. Kissinger was always anti-Israel & US always witheld arms...
Nannette ,   London   (11.29.07)
Just like they do today unless Israel capitulates to what they want... But they'll continue to fund and supply weapons to any state hellbent on killing Jews! Now, what does that tell you about the USA?
11. KISSINGER... THE SELF-HATING JEW
stude ham   (11.29.07)
He nearly had Israel destroyed in the yom qipur war because he didn't want israel to defeat the arabs too easily. so a huge number of our youth paid the ultimate price because of this anti-semitic jew, who deliberately delayed american aid to the then besieged israel. and it's clear from these memos that he was full swing into that anti-semitism as the sec'y of state. there is only one polite word to describe this person - RAT!
12. Matt #5 I also remember Nixon urging
Joe ,   Ohio, USA   (11.29.07)
Kissinger to plan for the use of the bomb on North Vietnam, Kissinger declined.
13. Israeli nukes.
(11.29.07)
Maybe the only reason Israel still exists.The Arabs don't want to attack.If Israel should give up their nukes it would be the best gift ever to Russia and China and the Arabs.They seek the domination of the energy market.
14. Nixon wasn't the bad guy here!
Claudia ,   Tampa USA   (11.29.07)
Nixon's instructions to his military people were "SAVE ISRAEL"!!!! His instincts came from his Quaker upbringing and his Mother telling him always that Israel was the land promiced by God to the Jews, and that covenent had to be obeyed.
15. don't delude yourselves
(11.29.07)
the worst possible jew hater is a self hating jew who has tried to asimilate and kiss goyim ass for millenias and there are plenty of those around. just look at benny morris, finkelstein and tons of jewish revisionist historians of the 20th and 21st century to get but just a glimpse at this phenomenon i can explain only too well.... some jews throughout the centuries wanted to assimilate and be as non jewish as possible, fearing their jewishness as a barrier to self and their aspirations. while they had their own various emotional reasons for doing so, the main reason was because they were embarassed of who and what they represented. they didn't want to be too jewish, too observant, too traditional. they wanted to follow the world thinking that the others were enlightened and progressive. when one does this and is embarassed of his identity and tradition, one fights 100 times harder to eradicate his past and identity and in so doing seems through his actions a bigger antisemite than any other. the sad thing is that for everyone, including nixon, the bigot, kissinger still remained that "stinky jew" irregardless of how much that jew tried to "convert" his attitudes as a jew. dr. alan dershowitz wrote a great book on the subject called chutzpah in which he claims that on every jews mind is a guilt ridden thought about their survival and continuation of practicing jewish ideals and lifestyles. he calls it "shanda pur the goyim"....basically, if we are, if we do, if we think, if we act too jewish, the goyim won't like us. all the while, those hidden jews do not realize that they were the first ones led to the gas chambers no matter how non jewish they were in europe, especially the "enlightened modern non practicing german and austrian jews" who felt light years above and ahead of their "low class religious and traditional" jewish brothers and sisters in poland and other european nations. belief in who you are, in what you are, in your tradition and values, in the law given by your jewish god, in keeping traditions and observance, in practicing proudly your god given right of being a jew, in adhering to jewish laws and traditions...these are the things that keep a person strong, not trying to hide amongst others so that they can accept and love him. love who and what you are first and then people will respect you, your convictions and your beliefs. there are too many of us here in the usa and europe who are hiding and bashing those who do not hide and are visibly jewish like the haredis or the orthodox or the lubavich, all the while forgetting that in the gas chambers of auschwitz liberal and traditional jews were gassed together and their end fate didn't depend on their level of jewishness. as for myself, a very secular jew at that that hardly bothers to attend synagogue apart from the major holidays, i can tell you that if we are not proud of who and what we are as a nation, a race, or whatever you may call it that binds us together, if we keep on being embarassed to show our true background and tradition, we are doomed. behind closed doors, remember, that to every goyim, you, no matter how far you are trying to run from who you are, you are still a jew and forever will remain so.
16. To 11. KISSINGER...AN AMERICAN
Franklin ,   Paris   (11.29.07)
You d'nt have to be jewish to be ..... Kissinger demonstrate the LOYALTY of a Jew....to is nation, ( In this case America ) ......and demolish the insane myth of the "Protocols"....
17. 1969: A winner, 2007: A looser
Nora ,   Tel Aviv   (11.29.07)
Mr. kissinger ,when do you think Israel should use the Bomb, when winning or when loosing ?
18. nr 15 excellent post and about time
Alex ,   Den Haag / NL   (11.29.07)
especially in these days kol tuv
19. Is it me or is any one out there wondering why this is
Mike ,   Israel   (11.29.07)
story is making headlines today. Think about it.
20. Nixon was always a friend and was BADLY treated by USA
Alan ,   SA   (11.29.07)
He was a great man with great foresight .Yes, lots of tales about the tapes etc . He is missed!
21. #15 I hope Auckland Jews read your post
Jack ,   NZ   (11.29.07)
You have described with precision one group of jews, that is the Auckland Jews in New Zealand. I hope they read this, because I find them ridiculous trying to hide their Jewishness. The great Rabbi Lubavitz once said; when a jewish boy undergoes circumcision, the angels take the freshly cut piece and stick it to their forehead. So you may want to look and behave like the goyim, but they will recognise you from a kilometre, like it or not!
22. #19
(11.29.07)
i don't understand. please tell me. why is it now that this issue is talked about? i posted #15.
23. This is probably an attempt to discredit Mr. Kissinger who
Rivkah   (11.29.07)
is a Jew and is still in power behind the scenes in government. That was long before Mr. Vanunu (excuse me, "John Crossman") spilled the beans about Israel's nuclear program. What is forgotten is the Israel did NOT sign the Nuclear Weapons Non-Proliferation Treaty, so they do not fall under it. It was US President Jimmy Carter who told Sam Cohen America did not need a new weapon ( the inventor of the nuclear weapon that does not destroy property but only causees the death of living organisms in the target area.) So Mr. Cohen took the invention to the Israelis. During the Nixon Administration, it is hardly likely that the Israelis had regular nuclear weapons and this supposedly ancient document is probably a fraud and a publicity stunt to drive Mr. Kissinger out of power behind the scenes.
24. #18 and #21
(11.29.07)
thanks to you both! i am #15. i am also an israeli that grew up in israel in the 50's and 60's. we will never be respected if we avoid who we truly are. during roman times, the romans forced us to convert. many jews at that time didn't even wait for the romans to force them. they volunteered to save their lives. at the end, they were slaughtered in just the same way that those who refused to convert were killed. with judaism, it's damn if you do and damn if you don't when the goyim look at us. we CAN NEVER MAKE ANY OF THEM TOO HAPPY, TOO ACCEPTING OR TOO INCLUSIVE OF US. no matter how hard we try. we are all people flesh and blood, but we are also very different. not respecting and accepting this difference is a crime and a shame. and #22, the new zealnad jewish community is not that much different than many communities in the usa and europe. the only country where we as a nation apart from others can feel secure and proud is in israel. jews that are hiding have no clue that should israel become extinct, they as a group will be the first to be pounced on. israel's survival gives the diaspora jews a secure international legal foot to stand on as well as a haven to which one can escape should anything god forbid happen to us. germany was just as enlightened and modern as todays america and europe when the holocaust occured and there is no way one can secure it not occuring again. this time it is the muslims, not the nazis.
25. to # 15...........yawn.........
Phil Hart   (11.30.07)
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