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Decision time on Iran nearing, Livni says
Roni Sofer
Published: 07.12.07, 12:45
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1. Don't wait for anybody. Talk through stick with Ayatollahs..
KMR ,   Middle East   (12.07.07)
Unfortunately, they understand stick only!!!!
2. DID YOU TAKE A GOOD LOOK..................
AVROHOM BILGREI   (12.07.07)
AT THE MUG OF LIVNI ? IS THERE ANYONE IN THEIR RIGHT MIND THAT WOULD ELECT TO SHAKE THE HAND OF THIS @#$%^& -COULD YOU BLAME THE ARABS ? I THINK HER CAPACITY TO MAKE MY SKIN CRAWL HAS REACHED PARIDY WITH HILLORY !
3. The ayatollahs and their hairy representative
(12.07.07)
understand only the language of strength and power. They will only yield in to sanctions, economic boycott, severe travel restrictions and the day by day anti-ayatollah and anti-nuclear Iran world propaganda. Who knows, the silent majority inside Iran may wake up one day and get rid of their primitive and lethal ayatollahs.
4. She still doesn't get it ....
Terry ,   Eilat, Israel   (12.07.07)
Even after the Americans basically said they won't use the military option, after the fiasco of UNIFIL in S. Lebanon, after the shabby treatment at Annapolis, after watching YEARS of EU appeasement policy towards Iran, she is sill running around begging others to defend us. Everyone has time except us. We are the first target. The world might take action AFTER we are hit. But if we are hit, I can imagine our friends & allies still telling us to use "restraint" - Livni is being very, very naive. In our circumstances, there is no acceptable level of risk.
5. Naive
Marcel ,   Florida   (12.07.07)
The Queen of Niave is under the curse of Jeremiah 17:5. The days of a secular Israel are coming to an end as these failed leaders and their plans have all come to it's end. Only Hashem will save Israel. Trusting is lie's and devious leaders and nations has been fruitless and only led to fasle hope and despair.
6. PREDETERMINED STRATEGY
MAHMOOD ,   LONDON-UK   (12.07.07)
It now looks or becomes more clearer...........irrespective of what the Intelligence Unit is USA or for that matter anywhere in the world gives good news or IAEA gives a positive indication of knowing that the Iranians are not persuing the Nuclear bonbs......should be thrown out of the window.Get Russia,China,Germany and the rest to sit at one place and say....'We dont care what the world says.........we have to believe that Iranian Nuclear sites ARE developing a bomb'. which means all these talks,so called transparency matter,talking to Solana by the Iranians is just waste of time.So, what is the use of draining resources of making these personnel travel to and from Iran.Stop all these waste of resources of IAEA making them travel for something where a predetermined strategy is now apparent to a man on the street!!!???
7. Decision time on Iran nearing
millie ,   Israel   (12.07.07)
Well first thing the gov ought to do is to hand back the gas masks that were taken away from the public over 2 months ago, fix up the bomb shelters, and make sure all kupat Holims have stock piles of their client's medications. The homefront must be prepared before the government makes any kind of decision to go after Iran, or the homefront will cease to exist which means the nation will cease to exist !
8. Number 5 is right - Livni is a naive fool
Moishe ,   NYC USA   (12.07.07)
IF Livni would ever read the Torah, instead of being a secular fool, she would see what G-d has told us to do. Make attepts at peace, BUT if peace cannot be obtained, take on your enemy and DESTROY THEM! Israel was foolish to appoint a weak woman to ANY post which must obtain the respect of muslimes. They have NO FEAR and NO RESPECT for women. Israel has FOOLISHLY agreed to too many "cease fires." Muslimes do NOT understand cease fires as anything but a time to re-load and re-attack. Wipe out the enemy. The enemy seeks Israel's destruction. WIPE OUT IRAN, and bring about the predictions of Isaiah and Jeremiah. Turn Iran to nuclear glass. The muslimes ONLY understand and respect awesome power and strength. What good are nukes if you don't use them, and wait until your enemy has nukes?? WIPE OUT IRAN NOW!
9. this must mean
JL ,   israel   (12.07.07)
that the government nuclear bomb proof shelter is near completion..
10. When Should We Attack Not If?
Dave Levy ,   Burbank. CAUSA   (12.07.07)
Watching the Iranian UN ambassador talking to the US media, one gets the impression that Iran's mullah leadership and it's anti-Semitic President are a bunch of pussycats, harmless victims in an otherwise campaign by some to undermine Iran's sovereignty and manliness. I am dismayed at some US legislators and media types who used the report to justify their non-involvement policy vis a vie Iran and Iraq (Biden, etc.). Iran's centrifuges and heavy water really reveals their intent, to manufacture or at least threaten to manufacture atomic weapons. Their ultimate goal is utlimate power in the ME area, and ability to dictate other's policies (most especially Israel). It's a power play by Iran, nothing more, nothing less. The question now is: what to do? Is an Iranian potential for terrible devestation on others, worse then devestation inflicted on them by the West-Israel? Sooner than later, this will have to be answered, Joe Biden or not.
11. They are NOT strong as we think.
ZaReBiN   (12.07.07)
Dear users, I would like to say as an Iranian, Iranian regime is not strong as look like. Iranian people are the regime's number one enemy so I hope an eventual strike by Israel lead to regime change in Iran. I think it is time to plane regime change in Iran rather than negotiation with regime. every thing you hear about Iran's military maneuver and missile is a joke for us Iranians. they are bluffing in war games.
12. Give it up....
Marzipan from Toledo ,   Marzipan, Espana   (12.07.07)
you've lost. Time to do what is right -- admit defeat on this topic, change leadership, and work with the US to solve the problem. Ask for direct talks with Iran. Yes, ask for direct talks -- you heard me. This is taboo talk in Israel, but it is time for a change in the mindset of the nation.
13. Stop worrying about the 'world' Israel
grt ,   USA   (12.07.07)
It's no ones fault but you're own that you mix defending your country with appeasing the International community. Israel will never have any good PR -- public relations -- from the world. Pallywood has made sure of that with their false propaganda against Israel for decades. Just do what you have to do. No matter what you do, you won't be praised. It's not like the West is going to attack Israel because they did it. That's the situation the US is now in, our detractors (and the BBC) have convinced even halfway Intelligent Western people that we are the biggest worldwide threat to peace. I can only hope we'll elect a president who could care less about answering to the ranting ignorant world. What's wrong with her 'mug'?
14. Awakening from Stupor
Robert ,   New Jersey, USA   (12.07.07)
Pleasing to see such adroit talkback responses. Maybe the world is awakening from its Islamo-fascist-induced stupor. Well, the world save for Mahmood and Marzipan (now I know almonds affect cognitive thinking). #12 Marzipan, you don't talk with an enemy sworn to your elimination. An enemy that can't even call you by your nation's name, Israel. #6 Mahmood, despite your difficulty in forming syntactically comprehensible thoughts, it appears you are saying the IAEA, NIE, Russia, China - several civilized western countries intelligence notwithstanding - are to be believed in their chimerical absurdity that Iran is an innocent country up to no harm. The so-called NIE, the 'intelligence' report absolving Iran of nefarious activity has been shown to be a politically inspired bogus report written by the guy who doomed John Bolton's appointment at US Ambassador to the UN...a product of a Bush-hating component of the CIA. You and all the Iran apologists can now seize upon this report to vindicate your propaganda that Iran is enriching uranium to make electricity. The real world knows the facts and will act upon them, so keep up the drumbeat of appeasement. No one is listening.
15. evacuation of west bank settlements
marv   (12.07.07)
Livni showed her courage when Olmert smacked her down when she asked him to resign. To evacuate westbank settlements for what? Peace? quiet? missiles into israel? Can yoiu not standup to the US? Why is livni in this government with Olmert, the biggest Israel coward in years?
16. Livni has low intelligence
Steven ,   San Francisco   (12.07.07)
Wants to bomb Iran on the one hand and throw Jews out of their homes on the other. Should she ever succeed there will be no Israel to talk about any longer.
17. MISGUIDED ROBERT.......#14
MAHMOOD ,   LONDON-UK   (12.07.07)
By making use of sophisticated language,you are hardly doing justice to yourself.The fact is for everyone to comprehend.And do remember,USA will be able to do nothing to Iran.No one is innocent of course,including your puppets in Washington,Robert.
18.  Doesn't bother anyone that Iran had an Atom bomb project
patriot ,   chicago, US   (12.07.07)
Is nobody paying attention, the report said they had an atomic bomb project. HELLO! Doesn't anybody get it. If they had a project what idiot would believe they don't still have it or can crank it up again. If anything, this report means that Iran's nuclear facilities should be destroyed soon!!
19. Sound Reasoning and Truth...Not Sophisticated Language
Robert ,   New Jersey, USA   (12.07.07)
is what separates my contributions from yours. With what 'facts' do you base your conclusion Iran is innocent? Its refusal to allow open inspections of hardened bunkers? Yes, Mahmood they are growing dates under them. Or, "USA will be able to do nothing to Iran." Are you so deluded by the strutting of the monkey president to believe even a Dromedary's rear about his military's prowess? He and his Republican Guard will fall as fast as Saddam and his did nearly five years ago. Both were/are feared and hated by their own people. Neither will have any hope of survival when confronted by a real military. Being Aryan does not seem to inhibit Ahmadinejad's kinship with the Arab proclivity to lie and boast as a strategic method of intimidation. We don't fall for it. Sorry you do. Mahmood, it is YOU and the rest of the monkey president's apologists who are misguided.
20. Lets assume Iran crossing the technological threashold...
Avishai ,   San Francisco   (12.07.07)
Then they going to be far worst because their word to come up clean is on the line... And even so if they have the bomb, I just can't see how it can benefit them using it... Maybe I am to naive...BUT I AM NOT!!!
21. Israeli Threats to Attack Iran Prove Israel's Violent Nature
Lev Bronstein ,   Moscow, Russia   (12.07.07)
Israel's continued threats to attack and thus violate the sovereignty of yet another peaceful country in the Middle East only further reinforces the fact that the Israeli regime is the biggest threat to peace in the region and not Iran, a country who has never threatened or attacked anyone in its entire history. And when is the liar Livini going to stop trying to sell the bold faced lie that Iran has threatened to destroy Israel, which is a lie based upon a fabricated false quote of a speech made by Ahmajinadad in which he said nothing of the sort, even though the Israeli regime has threatened to attack Iran with nuclear weapons it developed in secret and also hid from the world several times. The world needs to address the reckless religious extremism, fanaticism and Paranoid Schizophrenia that permeates Israeli society and leads to its leaders being so out of touch with reality..
22. livne says
sas ,   israel   (12.07.07)
whatever comes out of her mouth should not be take seriosuly. she is good for nothing. She ciritized ohlmert but continuies working for him??????? her opinions and actions are 2 different things. She is only worried abou the job/the car/the glor. The state of israel is her last interest. I hope she wakes up soon and realizes what damage she is causing. Let her stay home and take care of ther childrne. perhaps there she would a better job.............but perhaps ewh is abusng them too. the woman has no values, no .imits/boundries. when she critizicized ohlemet months ago and did notleave we discaover the REAL LIVEN
23. WHERE IS YOUR REASONING?...#19
MAHMOOD ,   LONDON-UK   (12.07.07)
Once again,usage of dirty language probably indicates where you were brought up and the characters round your upbringing.Feel sorry for you but I initially felt you were an intellectual person.So sorry I misjusded you.However,USA will do nothing...........be assured!!Your rhetorics will remain confined to yourrself.You,like few others,may look forward to it,however.Ha!ha!
24. Take the beam out of jewish eye before you worry about Iran'
lydia ,   Brisbane, Australia   (12.08.07)
25. What to use is the question.
Stuart Clark ,   West Sussex, England   (12.08.07)
Not IF to deal with Iran, not WHEN to deal with Iran, but what to use. Nimitz, Enterprise and Truman just of the coast of Iran, and Russia now sent destroyers to settle off the coast of Israel, the US and Russians within a stone's throw of eachother. The Russians using the Syrian ports etc and conducting LIVE missile tests, and the US history of mistakes. The Russians have the "hump" as the defence system that they supplied to Syria failed on the 6TH September, combine that with the US itchy finger and the fact that Iran has to be delt with is a rumble in the making. The Russians are there due to Israel making it clear that they may have to deal with the situation alone. $$$$ of business with Iran and Syria. The pressure should have been taken off of the US so that they could have delt with the situation alone. The underground plants are 75 feet below ground (this is known due to the fact that Russia helped with the builds). A "Tactical" bunker buster is my guess. That breaks the Taboo. Tough times ahead. Has to be done mind. It has to be soon and will be. Russia in the area makes this very volatile. Oh well, anyone for tea and cake?
26. No#11
A Lebanese ,   Beirut   (12.08.07)
I totally agree with your logic...but then,lets go back a bit...you say the Iranian threat is overblown and just a bluff....good...everybody here can agree with me when i say that hezbollah is iranian proxy in lebanon right? and they are trained in iran right? so lets take logic into logic,if the mighty IDF where a$$kicked by hezbollah last summer(whom are only trained by iran),how do u think that Iran is just a loud mouth? remember something,hezbollah didnt get all the the weapons available in iran due to embargo but they still manageg to stand up.....do u really beleive iran are bluffing?....read my son....'sunburn missile' 'yakhont missile' .....use the news sometimes and get your reality in check..
27. Use the common sense that God has granted you, Marzipan
Cameron ,   USA   (12.08.07)
What has a 'change in mindset' and 'talks' with the Basque guerilla groups gotten Spain? Nothing As a Spaniard, you're own long history with the Islamic World should have fundamentally taught you the perils & results of screwing- around, playing a weak, gentle soul, and what ultimately goes down when you do little more than try to 'wish away' bad behavior in that part of the world. Remember catching a train-ride in Madrid and start to buck-up, Marzipan. Israel: if you feel you must finally stop the nonsense & make a final move, then by God, make it and we'll stand at your side.
28. #23
Walt ,   USA   (12.08.07)
I find your command of the English language to be less than adequate. You may wish to use a spell-checker before you type your next screed. Also, what does someone's physical appearance have to do with a policy position's correctness or falsity?
29. #14
Walt ,   U.S.A.   (12.08.07)
Robert, Mahmood is not capable of discussing this in a rational or semi-intelligent way. His latest remark about the U.S.A. not being able to cause Iran any problems is more of a childish retort than a real answer. If Mahmood, who lives in London, is so confident about Iran's virtue and invulnerability, he should move there as a show of support.
30. Decision Time on Iran is Near
Brod ,   USA   (12.08.07)
Livni's warning should not be taken lightly. There may be things that they know that we do not know. Time is certainly running out. Israel MUST defend herself against threats of annihilation. Meanwhile the Ayatollahs are feverishly working on their NUKES. Former President of Iran, Hashemi Rafsanjani, says at Tehran Stadium shortly after 9/11, a single nuke would do the job of annihilating Israel. If people cannot see the DOTS, they must be idiots.
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