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Homeland not for sale
Elyakim Haetzni
Published: 17.12.07, 11:14
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31. # 27 Willy, WHAT'S A KNOVE?
Petra ,   usa   (12.18.07)
as FOR FAIRY TALES AND HOLY BOOK, IASSUME YOU MEAN THE QURRAN?
32. # 27 Poor willy
Petra ,   usa   (12.18.07)
Muslims took 2/3rds of the torah and made a comic book for dummies. You lose, we win.(ALWAYS!) It's called ISRAEL AND WILL BE THERE LONG AFTER THEY BURY YOUR SORRY ASS. AND, the Pals will still be the biggest 'beggar' on earth with only death to show for results. No nation, no cash, no credibility. Just plain old fashioned insane losers. yOUR 'LEADERS' WILL BE BUYING HOOKERS IN FRANCE, ENGLAND OR, WHOEVER WILL ALLOW THEM ENTRY. And, the hookers will still call them 'TRICKS'
33. Elchonon
David ,   Los Angeles   (12.18.07)
You have NOT taken Willy on with your childish "historical" and tribal us/them arguments. You have not answered his points at all.
34. @David: OOPS!
Willy ,   Israel   (12.18.07)
But don't get too self-righteous here. I guess my understanding of English is still better than yours of hebrew or a couple of other languages. I definitely feel more comfortable to use the English than the Hebrew version. Don't you too?
35. Oy, Elchonon....
Willy   (12.18.07)
Thanks for condescending to me but in fact... OK, for you reeaaally slow: "200 years of Norman rule..." NOT: 200 years ago, Einstein. The conquest of southern Italy is over 1,000 years ago. So is the Arab expansion into the Spanish Peninsula, the American Indians which - for arguments sake - you don't mention go back a good 20,000 years. But that's not the point. This country was never empty nor was it barren. It wasn't when the a dusty bunch of desert people declared it theirs by divine will and it wasn't when they came back after 2,000 years of absense. Sorry, buddy. You won't get the Palestinians out of this country unless you kill them. They don't have a country (not, they do not have 20 others, there is already other people living there). The Jews do. It's called State of Israel. So why don't you just pack up the caravans and live in the Negev if you must live in the dust. And leave the dust on the hills to the Arabs. No one will get killed over it and we're all happy.... OK, that was a joke... Oooph! Whatever? I'm sure you'll find arguments to counter mine, you'll hang on to some maths and promises made by a God (oh, sorry G-d) that doesn't exist anyway. Since there are at least as many Arabs out there who are as narrow-minded and possessive as you and your likes you'll go on killing yourselves over desert sands. Go ahead. enjoy. over and out
36. Nice facts willy but NOT the point.
Elchonon ,   Chevron   (12.18.07)
You fail to acknowledge by what right to these arabs have to this land? You mention "palastinians" the term is not only misleading but outright false.. I do agree that aras have always lived here.. but so have jews.. I see no points in your arguement. Why must the state of Israel's terrtorial boundaries exclude judea and samaria ? due to a hostile arab population? By the same token that you want me to leave.. get them to leave.. The expulsion from Gaza cost perhaps 15 billion shkalim or 20 billion.. Loss of homes, revenue, infastructure, tourism etc etc etc.. Had 50 billion shekalim been used to pay the arabs to leave, had the same conditions metted out to us been applied to them.. they would have gone! The gaza population is 1.5 million arabs on a 750$ per capita income. Estimating 300,000 households or perhaps less, having offerd the arabs 250,000$ per household which is 75 billion dollars.. Sure they wouldent all leave, but youd just clamp down on terror real fast.. We would have no 1.5 million hostile gazan arabs, no rockets on sedorot.. If your willing to discuss kicking jews out.. bibical or not right.. or historical or not right.. why are the arabs any different?
37. Elchonon
David ,   Los Angeles   (12.18.07)
Since you agree that both Jews and Arabs lived and live in the Land of Israel, why can you not agree to share it all with them? Either split in two with one part for them and one part for you, or else both of you sharing the whole thing. You and your kind refuse to do either of these things. You want it all for yourself (you are just like Hamas in this), so don't play your childish word games. And by the way, if you're going to write "G-d" instead of "God" for some weird, inconsistent and ignorant reason (like you think this English word is one of His names that cannot be written, which is absolute Torah-ignorant rubbish), don't you think you should at least have the basic respect to write it with a capital letter G??????? This is just plain Lubie/BT/Christian ignorance.
38. #37 david
Elchonon ,   Chevron   (12.19.07)
Firstly I speak for no one and am represented by myself, my "ilk" are perhaps aspects of my imagination but do not exist. You take a stab at many complex issues in one short paragraph. Firstly, I am of firm belief that G-d (better?) created the world and gave us Israel as a everlasting inheritance. I know there are many who may bluff or mock my deed of ownership, so I am forced at times to argue on a down to earth, facts on the ground style. Jews and Arabs have lived together yes.. by no means peacefull.. no one asked them to butcher 67 jews in 1929 and rape and injure scores more.. While 1929 is a long time ago and 67 is not so much in the big world.. I would perfer that my parents not lose their son at the age of 22 so I am a bit hesitant og this whole getting butcherd business. You equating apples with oranges, while there are a few cases of hostility and violence on part of jewish youth here.. no one is going on murder sprees.. yet arabs daily get arrested with knives and guns claiming to be on the way to butcher jews. Since sharing is not feasible, only in the minds of leftist peace mongers a.k.a. "lets play games with people's lives" I merely agree with barak just that we ought to offer the arabs to leave.. My oh my am I racist ? I dont recall screeching racist at barak.. at the sheer lunacy that I who have given up the wealth of america to claim my birthright would sell it ? I write G-d because this is how my father does and how I was taught and how I want to.. I dont mock your style of writting.. and frankly I think arabs stink like sh*t and are repulsive but I didnt bring that up did I ?
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