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US report: Israel would weather nuclear war with Iran
Yitzhak Benhorin
Published: 24.12.07, 10:11
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31. B.A.-Where have U been lately.Havnt U heard Amajinebad rants
Alan ,   SA   (12.24.07)
32. Go there only to destroy nuclear plants
Shir   (12.24.07)
Whatever the consequences of preventive strike will be, they are nothing compared to what will follow if Israel does nothing. A few years of peace are not worth sacrificing the country. Most of you will be dead in the next 90 years anyway, but Israel needs to exist for future generations. My personal outlook is that Israel should destroy the nuclear plants before it´s too late. In 1981 destroying Iraq´s Osirak-reactor did not result in war. Israel should not go there to change the government, because that would mean they would have to stay there. Israelis should not sacrifice lives for Iranians, but only for defending the land. Destroy the nuclear plants and let the Iranians live with their government. That´s not your business to handle.
33. Could you remove that big circle from Haifa
Scott ,   Haifa   (12.24.07)
I'd feel a little better if you did...
34. Karen #8
Scott ,   Haifa   (12.24.07)
You must have made a mistake and included Christianity on your list. If you were really a Jew like you say, then why don't you love your neighbor as yourself. How old are you, 10?
35. #16. Have you been to Israel? Are you a scholar on Jews?
Adam ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (12.24.07)
Iranian Nazi schooling does not count.
36. dr strangelove scenario
bob ,   potomac md usa   (12.24.07)
stupid alert. more proof that doing well on your sat and gsat and making a's in college--one can still be an idiot--
37. #24 and reading habilities.
Keren ,   Israel-SP   (12.24.07)
Dear BA,we don't want to kill anybody and it is not Israel who is threatening the whole world:IT IS IRAN! I t is them who are threating to kill wives,husbands,children,etc,NOT US! MY STATEMENT IN THE PREVIOUS TALKBACK: "And hope they will not be needed to be used at its fullest,because if it will...Well,many of us can die,but certainly billions of others will be HORRYFIED to see the Hell they created and asked for being turned into reality. " We didn't create this hell.We are just few people in this world with a very tiny country.We just want to be left alone,but it is you,christians inclusively,who stick on us like ticks,making us the center of your lives,not the opposite.
38. #34 I notice christians have a difficulty in spelling my nam
Keren ,   Israel-SP   (12.24.07)
My name is Keren,an Hebrew name,which those living in Israel and acquainted with the Jewish culture and language know very well,what seems not to be your case, since you must live in a christian enclave in Israel. But Scott,yes,I love my neighbour ,as long as my neighbour doesn't want to kill me.But christian history has proven you want to kill Jews and/or impose your pagan faith on us. Your place is not Israel ,as you are pushing to be ,but somewhere in Vatican or nearby.Israel is meant and is for Jews,and I would say ONLY for Jews .But, those who fully accept Judaism as being the Truth ,those can be welcomed.Those who not,are invited to leave.That's my view. I know that truth, when spelled the way it is ,bothers a lot!
39. You Can Fool Some of the People
Dave Levy ,   Burbank. CAUSA   (12.24.07)
To IIan: What the heck, what are a few dozen million killed Iranians, Egyptians, and Syrians anyway? Who would miss them, but of course the oil companies which would lose some of their trillions in petro money, thousands of US and other establishments..and the mothers of all those killed, (those surviving of course). This is in effect, a very, very, good report..it says it all. I like it..the doomsday scenario. Very exact and real. During WW2, the world lost over 75m by some accounts, with entire countries devestated. We Jews lost 6.5m murdered, slaughtered, butchered by our enemies. That's over 10 to 1. Germany lost 6m while killing 250,000 German Jews. (Over 25 to 1). The authors forgot Israel's neutron capability, killing people only . That adds millions more. Detroying the Aswan Dam would flood the Nile Basin., effectively destroying Egypt. Of course, Iran claims peaceful purposes for it's nuclear plants, so why all the excitement. Yeeet, why produce expensive fuel, when it has the far cheaper natural fossil in abundance? And why all those Rusky missiles guarding the approaches? Maybe, a few nukes on Moscow and Leningrad would stop any thought of this kind of warfare? I mean, aren't they the real culprits. George Bush wasn't far wrong when he predicted a 3rd World War. Some people laughted at that little goose stepping buy, names, Herr Hitler, who is laughing in his grave.
40. Article wrong
yosef ,   israel   (12.24.07)
This pseudo-academic article by the CSIS is funded by enemies of Israel and is wrong. Israel would lose a nuclear war. After such an attack Israel would have no sea ports and airports. That means no fuel for industry, heating or growing food. All water sources will be contaminated. Mass disease, starvation and death will follow within weeks. The world, incited to hate Israel by Shimon Peres and Yariv Oppenheimer, will certainly prefer to provide "humanitarian assistance" to the millions of Arab refugees and not to the few surviving Jews. Arab armies and irregulars from Lebanon, Jordan and Syria will finish off the starving isolated Jewish population. It is funny, but antisemite #19 has it right: the only ones who might survive are the Jewish farmers and soldiers stationed in Judea, Samaria and Golan.
41. # 5
Konrad ,   Warsaw   (12.24.07)
18-20 million. Iranian Holocaust. Who's going to remember yours?
42. US report Israel would win a Nuclear war
Roxy ,   Israel   (12.24.07)
Sheer stupidity such an article, such research! In a Nuclear war there are no winners only death and more death! Those not killed outright by the blast die painfully from radiation sickness(see Hiroshima after it was Bombed in WWII).! Israel doesn't even have nuclear shelters for its population at all the gov. is building one only for its leaders and their families, it cares nothing for the rest of us who would surly perish in any nuke attack from Iran! If we are attacked by Nukes why would the leadership need to survive when the rest of us would be dead/dying and the entire country would be left uninhabitable for decades. Even the United States which is much bigger than Israel would be devistated by a Nuclear bomb dropped on any big city and would have large areas uninhabitable as well! SO What I am saying is be afraid of a nuclear war because it would create a nuclear winter that could wipe off all life on this planet!!
43. THOSE WHO SURVIVE WOULD BE WORSE OFF THAN DEAD
radiation   (12.24.07)
44. What about if we
Igor ,   Munich, Germany   (12.24.07)
drop a nuclear bomb on the US first for creating such reports? Mr Bush if you want to, please take care of Iran yourself and don´t use Israel for this purpose. Let your soldiers die for your interests and not ours. Israel finally should stop relying on this semi-bankrupt superpower and conduct its own policy. Only because of the US Israel suffers daily Qassam rocket attacks; because of the US Israel has to follow the stupid, doomed road map plan; because of the US Israel was involved in the last year´s Lebanon war. The US doesn´t protect Israel, the US uses Israel for its own interests in the region and eventually doesn´t give a shit about our soldiers and our security. The US will sell us as soon as there will be nothing to exploit in this region. None of the US efforts have brought positive results so far, only the opposite, yet Israel still relies on this false, semi-bankrupt superpower and gets billions of (soon) worthless dollars in return. note: THIS COMMENT IS NOT DIRECTED AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, BUT AGAINST YOUR STATE´S FRAUDULENT, TWISTED & CONDESCENDING FOREIGN POLICY.
45. Umm, Do you trust olmert to do the job????
jack bauer   (12.24.07)
nobody wins in nuclear war but the iranians must not be allowed to make the first blow
46. #26 Lydia. Never confuse Israel with US in Iraq
Scott   (12.24.07)
You certainly write as a dead-set Israel hater. That definitely comes through loud and clear in your words. But anyway,I'd agree with you on Iraq, but no way with what occurred in the second Lebanon war and Israel's potential in any larger, more involved encounter with say, Iran that pertained the use of nukes. I dont think many thinkers would challenge Israel's prowess technologically as opposed to Iran's. Its more than likely , Israel does possess superior weapons. In Leb 2, Israel only used a small fraction of her capabilities and was pussy-footing around - not launching ground offensive til later - worried about world opinion. That would not be the case in a situation that required the use of nuclear weapons. In any case, towards the end of the 34 day encounter , Hezbollah were depleted significantly. Only wishful thinking and a hope that reality wasn't so could possibly allow any other kind of conclusion to form in ones' mind. Israel has never been 'allowed' to win any war. Its laughable to see for instance the Egyptians and Syrians actually talking about their disastrous encounters with Israel as "victories".
47. #16 - Actually, you're a good example of the problem
Scott   (12.24.07)
"bring it on dummies" ROTFLMAO Unfortunately, theres quite a few like you running arab and islamic countries right now. A serious encounter with Israel will leave your hegemonic friends and their countries absolutely obliterated. GONE.
48. Yet another stupid American "intelligence" report
JPS ,   Efrat   (12.24.07)
For anybody who believes this, then go read the top 10 seller "Saddam's WMD Program" written by similar idiots. Israel will not "recover" from a nuclear war. Winds blow form the west.. Any strikes on Tel Aviv and Haifa will create fallout over the rest of the country. There's a good chance Tel Aviv and Haifa will be uninhabitable, and reconstruction will take years. Jerusalem may not suffer a direct hit, but if the winds are blowing towards it when Tel Aviv gets nuked, then it will have to be abandoned - for how long depends on what kind of bombs the Iranians would use. There would be the byproduct of equality between Muslim and Jews, since all who wen to the Temple Mount would be equally irradiated and would die as happy pilgrims. The Iranians would probably nuke the ports and the airport. Israeli trade will be halted. Israel is dependent on imports for raw materials, energy and food. With no trade, the survivors will have no economy to keep them going and millions will become refugees and leave. So, just like the American experts were correct that Saddam had WMD, they're just as correct saying that we'll recover from a nuclear war. That is, they're totally wrong. For supposedly smart people, this is one of the stupider reports we're reading about.
49. No one wins a nuclear war
Tamara ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (12.24.07)
It's very safe for the US to say that Israel would 'weather' a nucleur war. I wonder if the fallout would reach all the way to Washington?
50. More Iranian nonsense, courtesy of Ali #16
Steve ,   UK   (12.24.07)
Israel does NOT consider non-jews to be animals. WHEREAS Muslims called Jews Apes, and Christians Pigs. Try to deny it.
51. I would remind the assembled of one fact....
Steve ,   UK   (12.24.07)
..this is an AMERICAN study, and they cannot dictate Israel's intent. Period. Now then: who honestly believes Israel should attack is an idiot. If Israel attacks, Iran will respond. In a nuclear scenario, do you really think Iran would loose on a 1 to 1 basis? They'd throw all they had, and between 200 and 800 thousand dead. What leader, what body of government, would want that much of their own blood on their hands? If Iran attacks first, retaliate with everything, but don't even think about first strike. Has anyone also considered the fact Washington is pushing this really hard for a reason? The U.S. won't, so it wants Israel to do it's dirty work, and now it's saying "Go on, you can win."
52. Terry, Eilat
Michael ,   Haifa   (12.24.07)
As things stand, we have a pretty lousy prime-minister, but at least I can take comfort from the fact that Terry from Eilat, or someone of his insane ilk, is not the prime-minister of Israel. The only reason I can think of for keeping Olmert in there
53. To 40 - What did we do
Vince P ,   Chicago, IL   (12.24.07)
Drop a bomb on us?? Why? What did we do? I dont think it's fair to just arbitrarily fling nuclear bombs around just so that other people can experience them. Maybe we should drop some on Germany... after all it started all of this mess in 1914.
54. To #16
marty ,   toronto canada   (12.24.07)
All the Mohammedans better worry, so many deaths in a nuclear war ...the rule will change from 72 virgins to a 72 yr old virgin.
55. #14, Don't worry we have a nuclear suppository for you with
Squalid Ibn Harman ,   Qtir   (12.24.07)
#14, Don't worry we have prepared a nuclear suppository for you with precison guidance system for its delivery.
56. 44 Igor: The Bible says Jerusalem is a troublesome stone.
Rivkah   (12.24.07)
That means that all who try to handle it other than Jews are eventually curshed by God. The connection between interfering in Jerusalem and Israel and the catastrophic weather consequences for those interfering does not seem to stop countries from trying. It is like telling a child not to touch a hot stove. He will not listen until he burns his hand.
57. Typical
D.C.   (12.24.07)
While everyone on the world is celebrating the love, what the Israelis are doing? Estimating the possibility of a nuclear war and telling that they would win it (What is not true, after they're underestimating everyone, while they lost a simple war last year too.). Merry Christmas everyone. Happy holiday for our Muslim friends. Israelis. Stay silent at least on this day and delay your war and "we're going to destroy the world, because we're the chosen one" mania to another one. And you're wondering why the 99% of the world is hating you. Israel = Sick nation.
58. wow -- is this armageddon and messiahs coming
augustine e johnson ,   birmingham-usa   (12.24.07)
sounds like the coming of the messiah to me < zechariah 14 > -- the bible says he will come to the mount of olives east of jerusalem=== augustine e johnson-usa
59. A War without restraints
Squalid Ibn Harman ,   Qtir   (12.24.07)
Until now Israel has acted with restraint and responsibility in a continuous war against enemies with no restraint. The goal of Israel's enemies has always been her destruction and that of the Jewish people. This includes the Arab armies that attacked her in numerous wars all the way to all the terrorist groups in Israel and around the world. Israel has on the one hand become a technological leader in the world with nuclear capabilities and developing satellites, precision missiles, 21st century military equipment all the way to commercial electronics, technologies, etc. In the current state of affairs there are any number of "watch" groups and media that present biased reports against Israel with regard to all counter-terror actions, etc. There is also the fear of Moslem reaction around the world if Israel should release her full might. A nuclear war would very quickly change all that. One can assume that Israel has thoroughly analyzed all scenarios and has brilliant tactical game plans prepared long in advance. USA and Israel has been working on anti-missile systems for sometime and probably have massive numbers deployed that would analyze the trajectory and bring down over Syria or Jordan any missiles not targeting Arab targets or population centers. Remember the Hezbollah rockets that his Arab villages in Lebanon 2 War. Noting that Iranian missiles are highly inaccurate, Israel would let the ones aimed at Gaza and WB through. On the other hand if we are attacked there is no reason not to obliterate the El Aqsa and Gaza and any other high value targets to capitalize on an opportunity to put a permanent end to the Middle East conflict and permanently remove the source of terror we have endured for the last 100 years. Yes, we may suffer some serious damage as each Israeli life is important but if we are attacked we will win and use the opportunity to bring total destruction our enemies. Seeing the destruction of Iran, Gaza, and WB it will be unlikely that any other terrorists would ever dare attack us. "And Peace shall come to the Holy Land for many generations."
60. WRONG, WRONG,WRONG, GOOD GRIEF WRONG !
JohnB ,   Alabama,USA   (12.24.07)
In a nuclear war their are no winners......ever! What is the difference with being 20-40% dead. This sort of thinking is VERY dangerous and scary. Before long you people will convince yourselves that a nuclear war is winable. That is INSANE thinking. That is the way the monkey man thinks. Wake up folks !!!
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