1. Where are they getting the money?
As they are not in the work force if they are at the schools during the day, where are they getting the money for these "bribes"?
Your taxes?
| Eric , |
Tel Aviv |
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2. disgusting
As if the religious-right doesn't already control the state, they now go after our children. oy vay
| Daniel , |
LA, USA |
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3. Interesting (Onesided) headline
I was raised secualr in th USA. Believe me, there is no way anti-Jewish laws could stand in America like they do in Israel. The good thing about this article is that it is the first time I have heard the term "secular coercion" in the media, though it is a painful reality in my everyday life. But shouldn't the headline mention something about that? Isn't it more horrifying that Jews are being forbidden to pray than that students get 18 shekels to go to a class? I think Israel is the only place in the world where Jews would consider a Rabbi to be a missionary. I remember when I was working as a cook in ahotel and I had to argue every day to get fifteen minutes to pray.The Muslims had no problem getting away foir a minyan. If the school had denied Moslems the right to pray, I am sure the reaction would have been more extreme, from the Moslems as well as the left -wing secular.
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4. Pay back
Israeli school BANS students from Praying during recess ???
Sounds very Nazi to me (and sorry to use this term I can't really find another, who else can be SO antisemite )- praying and in private forbidden in Israel! ? ! My Gosh! What next >?) Wow
No wonder religion ends up infiltrating through the back door. My suggestion to the the school: open your minds, think out of the box and allow for the "diversity" you so much preach for/
| gabriela ben ari , |
jerusalem |
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5. whoever wants Jewish enrichment in State Schools: Tali
http://www.tali.org.il/
| Avi , |
Jerusalem, Israel |
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6. closeness to god depends on the depth of one's wallet
i guess these missionaries are ok, though.
| mike , |
israel (formerly usa |
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7. The Rabbis Should Offer Assistance To That Single Mother
To kasher her kitchen and to help wth general expenses.
We all should.
| Yishai Kohen , |
YeShA, israel |
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8. Kol Ha Kavod to the Rabis who are "bribing"!
This is not bribering at all!It is Mitzvah!It is an enourmous incentive!
There is an entrerpreneur in Brasil,whose way of making Tzdacah (one of them) is to give a scholarship of almost 300 US dollars/mounth for every Jewish young to attend Torah classes twice a week.The only requirement is that the boy and girl can not miss any class during the mounth to receive the scholarship.
By this mean, he is bringing Jews back to their own heritage and helping them at the same time.
This is wonderful.This man is blessed,very blessed.
The youngs are somehow bringing Judaism back to their own homes,and it would be very good if the parents took the change also to follow this honorable tendency of their kids.
When youngs catch the love for their heritage and for Israel by this age ,they never let it go again.
| Keren , |
Israel-SP |
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9. I, as a religious Jew living in Canada
experienced the worst anti-semitism from fellow secular Jews.
I have been working and living in Canada all of my life and the worst shitheads I ever met were fellow Jews who would deny me and themselves their heritage.
So it is in israel where the new "JEW" is front row and center.
Here's one for you all the think about.
The secular Jew as well as the new "JEW" is fast disolving into nothing.
The religious Jew will prevail as they have till today.
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10. My parents used to bribe their children to read the Bible.
Sounds like a good use of money to me. We got ten cents for each Bible verse that was memorized and fifty dollars for reading the Bible cover to cover. That does not sound like much, now; but in the 1950's, that was a lot of candy purchasing power.
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11. Nothing new - Yeshiva have been bribing for years
The entire Charedi community lives off taxpayer money from the "friar" working community.
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12. # 6 The wallets of blessed and responsable Jews
can ,yes,bring closeness to G'od,because these men earn their money not only for themselves but to their fellows too.They are BLESSED men and women.
Dont be hypocrite about money,PLEASE!
We know how to earn money and we spend it wherever we are pleased.
Better spend it in approuching Jews to their own heritage than wasting in drugs or wrong values as many do,the majority of them being goiym.
Goyim missionaries ,who want to bring death to Jews,these ones must be imprisioned.
Jews"missionaries" are blessed people!
| Keren , |
Israel-SP |
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13. What is the problem exactely?
What dammage can some studies of Torah make to a child?
Are they going to make the parents "lachzor be tshuva"?
Let them study....!!!!
It will just open new doors for the kids!
| Eliana Prager , |
Raanana, Israel |
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14. So what?
Abroad there is a large culture of rabbins helping kids with money against some time of studies...
I wonder what kind of problem this may cause to the parents...
"If suddenly kids start to think Torah is very interesting!?" Oi-va-a-voi!!!!
Parents should learn some Torah too... and find out the wonderful stories behind (or inside) it!
| Pinchas Ziganovsky , |
Raanana, Israel |
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15. OMG they might become religious!!!!
| Yosef , |
jerusalem |
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16. Not Allowed To Pray!?!
This sounds like the bill that Ophir Paz-Pines tried to get passed last year about making it illegal for rabbis to "missionize" kids under the age of 18
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3339582,00.html
Only in israel can you find such absurd thinking!
| Concerned! , |
Jerusalem |
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17. how honest
With enough hunger and poverty I'm sure many people, not only school kids, can be manipulated by those who pay them, let is be religion or any other ideology. Makes me wonder how honest can one's faith be when getting paid.
| Carol , |
Jerusalem |
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18. gabriela ben ari
Of course you could have found another term to use instead of Nazi, but you didn't want to, did you ? So don't hyprocritically say "you are sorry for using it " and then cross all the red lines by using the term. You have no shame, whatsoever.
| Michael , |
Haifa |
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19. Gee, they may even learn something.....
Good for these Rabbis. These secular kids know nothing about their rich heritage & why they should be proud be Jewish & to live in Israel.
BTW there are more secular opting out of the army today than there are religious.
The Nachal Haradi units & the Hesder Yeshiva units are flourishing & are the backbone of our army.
| Avraham , |
Negev |
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20. 12 - that time of the month, eh?
we'll make a note of that.
| mike , |
israel (formerly usa |
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21. I didn't know that was coercion
If paying someone to pray is "coercion" on par with forbidding prayer, can I sue by boss for forcing me to work?
Why can't these idiot parents just raise their children with the values they cherish and hope for the best? I'm guessing that these same people are the first to bash hareidim for creating insular "ghettos" for their children.
| Ora , |
Jerusalem |
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22. Did the students confirm this?
Did any of the students who decided to become religious confirm that they were influenced by rabbis from Bnei Brak who paid them 18 shekels per Torah class? Or is this just the figment of some parent's imagination?
| Ora , |
Jerusalem |
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23. #17 carol-besides you being a goy living among us...
You are also an idiot!
| Keren , |
Israel-SP |
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24. If New Yorks mayor can pay students and parents
to go to school and do a good job......
Why shouldn't the Israeli religious schools do the same.
I wish colleges would pay me $50,000.00 to attend like Harvard and Columbia.
Could you imagine the grades and acheivement that would create?
| Steven Wilson , |
Anchorage, Alaska |
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25. #19 LOL, What planet do you live on?
"The Nachal Haradi units & the Hesder Yeshiva units are flourishing & are the backbone of our army."
LOL this is total and utter rubbish. And the proportion of Haredim dodging army service is MUCH higher than that of seculars dodging service (most of whom volunteer for combat units).
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26. could someone please pay for studying torah?
where do I sign up?
lol
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27. Let's finance them to do more
Great reporting! Good idea. Hope that it spreads throughout Israel. We need more of these "missionaries" Keep it up guys! We may have a Jewish Israel, more Jewish kids and anyhow, G-d controls it all, and prayer does work, so stop worrying and have faith.
| Davi Mori , |
Ramat Gan |
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28. Instead of complaining about Christian missionaries coercing
Jews, you find fault with Jewish Rabbis bringing their OWN JEWISH BROTHERS back to their Jewish roots.
What a sad state secular Jews have become! A true shame to Klal Yisrael.
| Joseph P. , |
Jerusalem |
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29. #18 gabriela ben ari said it the way it is
She used the correct terminology and couldn't have described it better. It's you who should be embarrassed and it's you who have no shame that such self-hating Jews who are trying to destroy anything Jewish exists in this country.
| Joseph P. , |
Jerusalem |
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30. HA HA yet more clueless crap from ther keneset
Melchior,
Define how bribing kids is on the same level of coercion as baning school yard prayer ?
Sorry but who are you clueless religious bashing talkbackers to talk?
Last I checked, the religious have a monopoly on chesed orginizations... but that is not the point..
I personaly think that make a sculpture of herzel or whatever using taxpayer dollars is stealing..
| Elchonon , |
Chevron |
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