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Israel to Libya: UN ignoring kidnapped soldiers     Yitzhak Benhorin
1. This is rich coming from the jews
The international community is also aware of the 1000s of PA prisoners held incommunicado in Israels dungeon. The International community is also aware of the numerous UN resolutions ignored by Israel to return to 1967 borders and cease and desist it illegal occupation of PA land..
lydia ,   Brisbane, Australia   (01.03.08)
2. #1 Get out of ABORIGINAL LAND!
Unless you are an aborigine you are occupying their land! Israel took the West Bank/Gaza in the defensive war of 1967,in response to threats of destruction from her Arab neighbour.Israel withdrew from Gaza in 05 only to be attacked by rockets.The 1000's of Pa prisoners you refer to are actually terrorists accused/convicted of terrorist atrocities against civilians.
andy ,   orlando,u.s   (01.03.08)
3. 1 - you an anti-semite?
are you referring to "jews" or do you mean "israelis"? are you collectively indicting all jews as guilty or just the actions of a single country?
mike ,   israel (formerly usa   (01.03.08)
4. lydia, what's worse, your ignorance or bias?
pali prisoners in israel's jails are proven criminals involved in terrorism and often with blood on their hands, plus they are in communication with their families, are given medical attention, and are treated according to international law. the land israel is on has never been "PA" land. the WB was under Jordanian control, while Gaza was under Egyptian rule. Before the WB was under Jordanian control, plenty of Jews lived there under the Mandate. Jordan kicked them out in '48 and kept them out, etcetera etcetera... why bother explaining the complexities? keep to your simple delusions. surely they will solve all these problems. plenty of evidence for that, yes?
dk ,   usa   (01.03.08)
5. #4, I think her lying is worst of all
She has been informed of the fact that only 837 Palistinian prisoners were kept under administrative detention - which means they are being held without trial, not "incommunicado". The other 7,000 odd Palestinians have had a trial. The vast, overwhelming majority are petty criminals - car theives, drug dealers etc. I have told her this. I have given her links to the stats but apparently she prefers to lie.
Danny   (01.03.08)
6. Lydia does NOT speak for me or my neighbors
she lies in every post she puts up. She hides behind allegations and false facts and figures.....but the truth hurts.....and she knows she really should go home to lebanon and stop hating jews for no good reason.... Almost every fair minded aussie I talk this over with on a daily basis agrees with the jewish right to exist...and stand against terror....only leftnik pansies that live with other fruitcakes in moslem neighborhoods call for destruction of jews and Israel....and support the likes of david hick and co.... those people are scum and should leave australia and go back to their hovels in the ME Just like lydia should Most everyone around here wants to seriously deter terror, and deport the sympatheric scum that support terrorists
jack bauer ,   AU   (01.03.08)
7. UN ignoring Israel's murdering in cold blood
do you think that abducted soldiers have no blood on their hands because they were in uniform and are Jews?
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8. #5 The truth according to the jews
I am still waiting on those links to stats to prove that 7000s odd Palestinians,(including women and children) have had a 'fair trial' including, I presume, the elected members of the PA Parliament. Make me a liar since only 837 (your reckoning) Palestinians are held incommunicado.(women and children, I presume included in this total. So by your reckoning, let me asks what's the hoopla about Hizbullah holding onto a FEW captured IOFs?
lydia ,   Brisbane, Australia   (01.03.08)
9. #8, www.btselem.org
Note that being held in administrative detention is not the same as being "incomunicado", it just means they haven't been charged. As for the elected members of the PA Parliament they were released nearly a year ago.
Danny   (01.03.08)
10. #7, care to trot out some names
of people "murdered in cold blood" by Goldwasser and Regev?
Danny   (01.03.08)
11. #6 Muslim neighbouthoodWhere do you live?
Is there a jewish neighborhood as well and an Aboriginal neighborhood as well? Sorry to disappoint I am not Arab nor do I live in an Arab neighborhood. I remember having arguments with the Germans about what their treatment of the jews until one patiently steered me to reading matter explaining the real story History is my forte so I gobbled it up. Sorry the truth hurts, it's a real bitch!
lydia ,   Brisbane, Australia   (01.03.08)
12. Suspension of Habeus Corpus
Administrative detention is lawful both according to the law applied in the Occupied Territories and Israeli domestic law. In the West Bank, administrative detentions are currently carried out on the basis of Military Order Number 1229, of 1988. This Order empowers military commanders in the West Bank to detain an individual for up to six months if they have "reasonable grounds to presume that the security of the area or public security require the detention." Commanders can extend detentions for additional periods of up to six months. The Order does not define a maximum cumulative period of administrative detention, and, consequently, the detention can be extended indefinitely. The terms "security of the area" and "public security" are not defined, their interpretation being left to the MILITARY COMMANDERS. The Emergency Powers (Detentions) Law (Similary applied in Nazi Germany in 1933) only applies once a state of emergency has been proclaimed by the Knesset. Such a state of emergency has been in force since the founding of the State of Israel.
Richard ,   London UK   (01.03.08)
13. #12, except as you have known for over a month
A tiny fraction of Palestinians are held under this law. The vast, overwhelming majority have undergone trial - the majority are also not under arrest for "political" crimes but rather are common criminals; ie thieves, drug dealers etc. You know this because you have been told over and over again. Are you planning to re-post some stats about "children" being killed or are we giving that lie a rest today? PS If the Nazis had only passed a law removing habeus corpus for a limited period of time then I doubt they'd have the reputation they do. They'd maybe have a reputation closer to the UK's who removed habeus corpus in the Mandate during the Arab "Revolt" and in Northern Ireland in the early days of the Troubles. PPS the Emergency Powers (Detentions) Law only passed in 1979, not in 1948. Here is an accurate description: http://www.hrw.org/reports/1997/israelwo/Israelwo-05.htm
Danny   (01.03.08)
14. Apartheid?
Israel continues to apply a host of laws and policies that discriminate on the basis of ethnic or national origin. The Israeli High Court upheld Knesset legislation that prohibits Palestinians from the OPT, who are spouses of Israeli citizens (mostly Arab-Palestinian Israelis), from joining their partners in Israel, except in certain age categories. Since 2002, Israel has frozen family reunification and forced thousands of married couples and their children to choose between living apart or living together in Israel illegally. Israel has also banned Palestinian students from the OPT seeking to study in Israeli schools and universities, and began denying visas to foreign citizens, many of Palestinian origin, who have been living, working, and raising families in the OPT for years.
Richard ,   London UK   (01.03.08)
15. #13
Israel inherited some of its laws, including the Defence (Emergency) Regulations of 1945, from the British Mandate, but subsequently restricted the authority to arrest without trial. In the Israeli occupied territories, however, the authorities' power to detain without trial remains extensive. The Fourth Geneva Convention, concerning the protection of civilians in occupied territories, permits occupying powers to detain persons without trial, but both the Convention and the official commentary clearly stipulate restrictions on the use of this power. As of No. 2007, Israel is holding approximately 850 Palestinians in administrative detention. Most of them are held in facilities run by the Israel Prison Service (IPS). Administrative Detention as an Alternative to Criminal Proceedings: The authorities use administrative detention as a quick and efficient alternative to criminal trial, primarily when they do not have sufficient evidence to charge the individual, or when they do not want to reveal their evidence. This use of administrative detention is absolutely prohibited and totally blurs the distinction between preventive and punitive detention.
Richard ,   London UK   (01.03.08)
16. #14, nope
some people under this law carried out bombings in Israel causing the death of over 100 Israelis. As for students studying in Israeli universities, there are plenty in Jerusalem and Tel Aviv. As a matter of curiosity, do you consider it "apartheid" that if I were to try and marry a UK citizen my wife to be would need to ask permission from the British government, even if I am not planning to visit, live or work in the UK. What's your excuse?
Danny   (01.03.08)
17. #14
No spouse or student is banned from entering the UK on the grounds of their specific ethnic origin (as are Palestinians).
Richard ,   London UK   (01.03.08)
18. #15, interesting interpretation
Israel changed the law upon becoming an independent state. The law in force in the West Bank is Jordanian law - which DID NOT change the law. So the law that so outrages you - and makes you think of the Nazis - is a British/Arab one not an Israeli one. 850 out of 8000 = tiny minority, so we are in agreement here.
Danny   (01.03.08)
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