THE USA, THE EU, AND THE UN DON'T CARE ABOUT ISRAEL'S SECURITY OR THEY WOULD LEAVE ISRAEL ALONE TO SECURE ITSELF.

A nation of slaves has to ask their their master turned tormenter for permission to defend themselves. The time is long overdue to overthrow such worthless leaders as this who put foreigners above the security and lives of the Jewish nation.

Olmert and his gang are cowards

Why do you need US permission to retake the border? olmert is a hapless coward with no backbone. All israelis need to understand this and force new elections. Nothing good can happen to israel while he is in power. Arabs laugh at olmert.

An idf coup to remove olmert seems to be the only option as israel is now reduced to being a coward. Is has to ask in Olmert's legal fiction formal approval by the US and europe to sanction and handle the matter? Both are disinterested but shocked by israel's cowardice in sending such letter requests. olmert has reduced israel to a laughing stock. This kadima group appears like a cowed party afraid to act including barak. Winograd, clean house, throw out the quisling Olmert, also throw out Livni and definitely get rid of Ramon, all advisors to Olmert.

Just take the control over the border again.

the problem with having partial control of Gaza right now is that Israel cannot cut of power and take many other necessary steps without be criticized for cutting of necessary humanitarian needs etc Israel needs to completely separate itself from Gaza. The military cost would be almost zero and it could then cease to namby pamby the place because it then would be a true enemy of the State. Taking 'more' control will simply make Israel more responsible! Mike

good that gives israel more space

THANK... NOT SO STUPID NOW(ALTHOUGH THE HORSE HAS A LONG TIME BOLTED FROM THE STABLE)...GIVE ALL CONCERNED PRAISE WHERE IT IS NOW DUE AND HAS BEEN MISSING FOR A LONG TIME.ISRAEL IS BACK ON THE RIGHT COURSE!

Israel was established so that Jews could defend themselves in their own homeland after being prostrate to others for thousands of years in other lands. That she must grovel and ask permission from the United States, and of all entities, the E.U. to act in its own vital interest is a slap in the face not only to Israel as a Jewish State, but to Israel as a "normal" state that acts without having to call its parents at every turn.

Let us all dispense with the fantasy that Israel is free to do what it needs to for its national security. Through its derelict leadership over the years, Israel has allowed its foreign & domestic policy to be dictated by the US, as if it is an appendage and a hostage to US interests. No sane leadership would behave in such a foolish and prostrating manner. However, Israel's leaders have not only been morally bankrupt but VERY greedy. They are beholden to their international handlers. The fact that the US is a super power is NOT the reason for their subservience. After all, so many countries ignore US dictates. The urgent question is how to extricate Israeli interests from US State Dept clutches.

The US and EU should retake and reestablsih security. But of course they won't. This was the treaty and security arrangements Condi spent months negotiating. It failed on day one and now is an open resupply border for the terrorists

Just take control. Then send out the notifications.

for permission to Live in your Land. GW & Rise is doing theid best to give it all to the Islam.PLO. one strip at a time. The EU Empire of July 10th 2007, so said . has given Billions to the PLO keeping them alive for themselves GAS & OIL Israel means nothing to them ever, History Tells the facts on the EU, They will never let up on the Jews. God will work his plan on them soon now. Zechariah,12;1-14 will take them out Take the Gaza Strip, unilateral. it is all yours. Israel GO FOR IT. God is on your side this time around, Tell GW to stay home. He is a lost cause to us all. ... Roy c. Hudson ""USA""

WTF, and he wants to pull out of the Judean Hills as well? And expects all to be peaceful there? Like Hamas won't takeover, and wont infiltrate the place with al qaida? What planet was Olmert born on?

Israel couldn't exist for five minutes without US protection and money. It has no choice but to do as it's told. Israel is merely the tool of the US Middle East strategy to control oil resoureces. Why Israel bothered asking those tootheless monkeys, the EU, is another question.

Lets see, olmert's law degree requires a document trail to get approval from someone and get coverage if it doesn't work out. He looks into Bush's eyes and sees a wise smart man. He would never think of quick idf strike to control the border. Ok. that's it. since Olmert won't go on his own, israelis-- hound him at his home and office and rip him out of the PM's office now!!

is seeking to make military bases near the Israeli borders to prevent smuggling of arms & drugs. But, the problem is that how can IDF officers - used to bribes & arms' theft - survive?

I follow Israel's plight with their terrorist neighbour, but I was never aware that Bush had to give HIS permission for Israel's request re securing the Rafah border. Read this Bush.... get the hell out of Israel once and for all and that includes your pal Rice.

......"Asking for permission" to take military action in our own country? Madness!!!!!!!!! Madness!!!!!!

You should know the problem isn't Olmert or Who is NEXT...the problem is changing the strategic balance and occuring new powers in the region e.g Iran...and armed well oriented resistances that being supported by local people...and the new relations and alliance Syria ,Iran, Hamas, hizbollah...I also consider one of the most significant factor is US failure in the region e.g Iraq , afghanistan , pakistan , Lebanon 2006 ( US war not Israel.! )..and the hatred which is growing up recently in countries like Egypt..our popluation is recharged ONLY by hatred recently more than before....as you know in the world the leaders of jihad , islamic extremists , brotherhood, Alqaeda are from Egypt...even Hizballoh includes Egyptians in the Hizbollah's media , Hebrew , political department...all such factors are complicated and made you in a real trouble...so Don't hang your problems on Olmert...Nobody blames him...and also Livni that keep dreaming with PM...the current government has nothing to do because the Equation has been changed completey with new complicated parameters However these parameters are common to the whole region......that is Why you don't find any solutions...and the situation becomes worse...the defense minister Barak came what did he do OR What would he do...Nothing even if you change the whole government...the solution this time isn't in your hand and this is your problem...ask yourself who is responsible for all such things..your done...I want the israelis build a new wall until it surrounds the state with high walls and becomes NOT a state because it will be worst than berlin wall which was aimed to divide the East and West..but in israel it will be all around..Who can LIVE in such state Except the people who are living already in pyschological sanitations....in such case you will collapse.

"IDF officers - used to bribes & arms' theft - survive?". Who is going to survive etc. Who is going go be bribed? What do you mean? Mike

Of olmert and the goverment,were such a strong country with good people but olmert makes us look like were a buncha slaves,who need to ask for premmision before doing something! thats just stupid,thats our own country and we should do what ever the hell we wanna no matter what the rest of the world says because if the same thing happend in france,england or anyother strong country they would kill every single one of those terrorists.

the most easily bribed person in the world is IDF officer. You can get every thing from IDF except big things, like atomic bomb. Most of the arms smuggled to Gaza are Israeli, most of them reach them though sea routes. It only means either incompetence or corruption on the side of IDF, the last is more likely. Even most of those smuggled arms caught in Sinai are Israeli, meaning those were just caught "en route" from Israel to Gaza. All those are facts; only unknown to one living in TA & London.

If Israel existed because the US wants to control oil why would we be in the part of the Middle East that has none? And fighting people who have none? Surely "Israel" would be somewhere like Kuwait - who had a war fought by US to be liberated - Saudia - who had hundreds of thousands of troops to protect it - or Qatar - which host to the largest US base in the Middle East? We are asking the EU because they are meant to be the ones ensuring the Egyptians do their job.

to set as naval bases. Israel can only hit to sink US Libertys ! It cannot defend its boats from a Hezbullah's thrown stone, either.

We are writing on a forum that would not be allowed in many countries and certainly none in the Arab world. Your post is close to those that write about the 7 people that control the world. Of course some Israelis are corrupt but they get caught, sentenced and exposed and we read about them. That's all! No more and no less than in every other country. Mike