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Jewish groups condemn attacks on Obama
Yitzhak Benhorin
Published: 16.01.08, 08:54
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61. # 51
Thomas   (01.17.08)
That's nice. Did you know when Edward Said spoke in Israel to an Israeli audience, he received a standing ovation? So why should it mean something worse for Obama?
62. Jack and Redmike
charles ,   petach tikva   (01.17.08)
I'm not so sure that Belgium is rolled over by muslims . Where you lived , near the Gare du midi , there are of course many of them , the same for Schaerbeek and St josse ten Noode , in Borgerhout [ Antwerp] there is also a very large community . But it's not the same as in Holland , a very tolerant country , where there are more than one million of them . Belgians are not so tolerant , and the VB party is very strong in the Flemish region . This party , a racist one , does what is possible to diminish the muslim influence . I did'nt read Jack's tb , from there my intervention .
63. Josh talks about a lie , he is one
charles ,   petach tikva   (01.17.08)
he knows very well what a lie is , he is it from head to toe .
64. #62 - no problem :-)
redmike ,   tel aviv and london   (01.17.08)
I don't mind at all being challenged vis a vis my political or other beliefs but felt the need to defend myself when it seemed personal and unjustified. You post was OK and semi-teasing but the annonymous one was unnescessarily unpleasant. I hope you are correct that Belgium will not roll over but my personal feeling is that Europe no longer has the stomach for another war - Islam vs non-Islam. I voted for Lieberman last time and will either vote for Bibi, Benny Elon or even Lieberman again in the next elections. I have nothing against Arabs but see Muslims as a threat to the world as we know it. Most people hide that heads in the sand which is understandable but not helpful. Mike P.S. You say 'a racist one' but Islam is not a race and one should carefully distinguish between Arabs and Muslims.
65. Redmike
charles ,   petach tikva   (01.18.08)
First of all , i never write anonymous , it happens tha i forget my name , but i correct this as soon as possible . When we call a pplitical party "racist" we all know what it means , even it is not 100 % correct , the same with antisemites , Arabs are also semites . I think that people in Europe begin to realise more what kind of threat muslims , or at least a growing part of their extremists , can represent . Regarding your political views , and the way you vote , no problem for me . You see , the big and only problem here is that NO satisfactory solution , for both sides , can be found . And here no one , be it Lieberman , Bibi , Olmert , Peres or Beilin , has a magic wand to bring it .
66. interesting link re Islam
redmike ,   tel aviv and london   (01.18.08)
one can agree or disagree with http://musam.notlong.com/ but it makes some interesting observations Mike
67. the Jewish community supporting Obama, unintentionally!
observer   (01.18.08)
"despicable and false attacks and innuendo based on religion," the letter said. "We reject these efforts to manipulate members of our community into supporting or opposing candidates." Can't you read between the lines : The Jewish community as if saying Islam is accusation & the Jews support you (Americans) against the "despicable" Islam. The Jewish community poses itself as a bunch of religiously intolerant fanatics. what the americans hate most, at least now, are religious extremists. The americans would vote for Obama because "the enemy of the enemy is the friend"
68. women just lost all rights
obama ,   here   (01.18.08)
when all women are wearing hijab than I'll laugh.hahaha
69. #68 No, women would win right to wear what they realy want
(01.18.08)
70. 65 charles
jack bauer   (01.19.08)
not to be a prick or anything, but do you think it might actually be possible that arabs are hametic and not semitic? I say that because I read up and found that ishmael, whos mother was egyptian, married an egyptian, and whos children most likely did as well just food for thought
71. Jacobus de Boer
charles ,   petach tikva   (01.19.08)
What they might be is not important here , it was to clarify what i wrote to Redmike . We all know what racists mean , even that a racist is not against a race , but a segment of a population .
72. The facts
Sigfried S. Kuhn ,   Abedeen   (01.20.08)
It doesn't matter what those leftist Jews are complaining about. The facts are that Obama belongs to a self-described Afro-centric Church. This church has a minister who is virulently anti-Israel. This Church also has honored the vicious anti-semite Louis Farakkhan. Obama has never protested any of this and only comments because the facts were discovered. These are facts-not accusations. Another fact is that Obama was a cocaine user. I know that many teenagers experiment with drinking and pot. Very few go to cocaine. What the facts show is that Obama has been willing to tolerate a bigoted minister and has embraced him. He also belongs to a racist church. After all, if a candidate belonged to an aryan church, would he be given a free ride as Obama has been given?
73. War and the Democratic ticket
Josh   (01.20.08)
The blood money made on war is what drives this election. The democratic ticket was loaded with losers becasue in order for the war to continue, and it will, they need another republican in office. There is no way Hillary or Obama would win a popular election. I am also wondering if the US constitution will need to be amended to allo either to hold office as the constitution was framed by white supremists who had slaves. In the US they intentionally make the Rebuplican ticket the war machine with overspending and they make the democratic ticket the doves. It is smoke in mirrors and what really drives the politics in the US is greed. Whether it is the democrats selling US jobs to foriegn countries for bigger tarrif taxes or the rebublicans making war, it is all to further world collinization for the banks who are the modern day bandits that charge you to service your own accounts and now on the accounts of third world countries. Make bricks with straw. Massive taxation on currency without representation. Since the beggining banks have never hid their plan for one world order. So dont bother putting your name on a politician if you think they are low lifes. Stay at home and watch reruns of the Jerry Springer show. At least you will be prepaired for the future when we revert to uneducated barbarians and peasants.
74. Obama's chances are slim and none
Petra ,   usa   (01.21.08)
he would be better served to openly discuss the points of contention to his election than overlay them with more political hubris. I rec'd an email from his camp and asked questions that weren't answered. I figure if he wants my vote, I want answers. As they never came, my vote will go to someone else. Pity, he'll stay long enough to make history and then, throw it all away due to his silence on the most important issue, to me, and that is, is he a friend of Israels or, an enemy? He does have a great speaking ability, but, don't they all? Time will tell who will be the nominee, I just don't see Obama as 'the' one. A political babe in the woods. If he can't answer the questions now, when?
75. Jewish leaders can be wrong,
RCA ,   USA   (01.22.08)
no matter how well intentioned, just like anyone else. Who here does not know this through personal experience? When facts are clear, decisions are easy.
76. VOTE for Rudy GIULIANI !!
RCA ,   USA   (01.22.08)
If he can push past his present slump. Rudy is a natural. He knows Jews! He deserves a shot at the Presidency. He never forgot. Don't you forget!!!
77. #76 Not unless I get a plane ticket to China
Josh   (01.23.08)
Rudy Giuliani destroyed Santa Monica California. Rather than address the homeless problem in his city, he gave them all free airplane tickets and shipped them off to California where they overran that beautiful city. New York's problems shipped else where. I must admit that Time Square is much nicer without the peddlers, pushers and peep shows, but he only shifted the problem on someone else. The city of Santa Monica has men sleeping in bushes the way Tel Aviv has cats. You can wake up go to the window and look down and see a strange person sleeping in your garden. The park on the sea coast where many movies were filmed is now a tent city where shirtless crazies throw concrete benches around like super heroes on PCP. No one treads those parks but homeless and drunks although you may see a jogger zip through unscathed amid the tent city. As wages decrease and people are straddled with debt because of the banking companies, will he ship Americans overseas so they can sleep in the bushes of the Chinese. I wouldn't make him president. It was a tacky and cold hearted thing to do without really addressing the problem. It affected fellow Americans adversely, lowered property values, and effected business in Santa Monica. He should have allocated money to assist in the treatment or committal of people who are a danger to themselves and society. Not ship them else where so New Yorkers don't have to deal with their problems. After all the reason many of them are in their homeless situation is because they were born and raised in New York.
78. HE FILLS THE BILL, and then some.
RCA ,   USA   (01.24.08)
A man can do only so much with the responsibility that he is given to do. I save and improve lives every day. That does not provide the responsibility nor the means to do the same outside my sphere of influence. The truth of the matter is that poverty, pain and suffering is a fact of life . Just as those who die in those circumstances , there are others who are born into it. The most any one individual can do is either cure , alleviate, or make the burden being carried more bearable, by love and compassion. Insanity, depression, dispondency, ignorance, abandonment, and illness are rooted in the human condition. When elected into public office with the responsibility to make the lives of ones constituents lives of some quality and some hope is more than enough to ask from some humanbeings. When one encounters the talents , skills and abilities of a Rudy Giuliani in ones lifetime, and having been lucky enough to have been a native New Yorker before and during his mayoralty, and to have experienced the results of such vast improvements, it becomes no strenuous ponderance. Now living in the Southern US it is an absolute pleasure to witness the ripening and maturity of such a gifted politician as Rudy Giuliani to national promenance. Like a fine wine aged to it's magnificentness Rudy Giuliani is ready to be savored to the benefit of all.
79. If Rudy can't pull it off.....Let's hope Bloomberg can.
RCA ,   USA   (01.24.08)
The rest just can't reach the same high-points.
80. When all is said and done about Obama ...
RCA ,   USA   (01.24.08)
Obama may be a very fine gentleman who has rocketed to national in a very short time. Obviously , the man has a great gift of oratory, that can energize crowds, even when he mostly speaks in generalities. I ask , what has he accomplished ? What great legislation has he sponsored, authored or helped create ? What major problems has he solved? What tests, beyond debate, has he achieved distinction ? Where does he show the adept political skills that he needs for the office of the Presidency. Are we expected to believe that 2 or maybe 3 yrs in the Senate are sufficient schooling to commandier the US ? I don't think so. Running for the Presidency, I am sure , is a valuable education in itself, which might serve Obama some time in the future should he decide to run again with some real experience under is belt. Untill then ....Obama is a stuffed suit, deep in water, way over his head. He deserves the same chance to run as any other American. How, though, can anyone seriously give him their vote with such lack ?
81. According to islam,if your father is a muslim,
jason white ,   afula,israel   (01.25.08)
you are a muslim. The only elections Jews should be worried about is early elections in Israel.
82. Email Obama Muslim
Deborah ,   Atlanta USA   (01.25.08)
I too got this email in both Hebrew & English. And I immediately emailed it out. I then began to question it and went to snopes.com, where they report it is another urban legend.
83. Reply to Obama article
Gina ,   Anchorage, Alaska   (01.27.08)
I have read many articles on Obama and no were, at any time, in any article have I ever read he 'converted' to the christian religion. ONLY that he belongs to a church. Just because one stands in a garage does not make them a mechanic. How much of this pre-election hype are we to believe?
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