well, it seems that there is at least one person wiith some personal integrity. Kol HaKavod Mr. Itzchaky. And a reminder to all of the pigs stuffing themselves at the coalition troughs - We will remember who you are at election time, and how you let down the country.

Now we can say that Kadima is 100% dishonourable. Sycophants (a fancy word for tuchas-kisser), self-interested jobniks, apologists for failure, people of no principles or integrity - that's Kadima's political program. Labour & Shas are no better. But eventually, elections will come. These sleazy politicians, Olmert at the top of the list, will get their just reward. The sad fact, though, is that our political system cannot reform itself from within. The worst our society has to offer is in politics for what honest person of integrity would want to lower himself into the sewer of Israeli politics?

NOW OLMERT!

how to be a good leader of the people: 1) Blame the Army for your lack of decisive leadership - Tell the people who put their lives on the line for the people ofIsrael, that it is their fault 2)Be cocky in the face of the people. Even though the people of Israel still have some hope for our democratic system, wave their abducted sovereignty in their faces and tell them you are here to stay and thats just too bad for them. 3) Speak in terms of "I" and "I" and "I" - because Israel is not about "we" or the "collective people", it is just about you the leader and your gang of politicians. winograd or no winoograd report, Olmerts true colors continuously shine through. Is it not time to demand his resignation? I for one do not want to be held hostage by the buraucratic Kadima elite!

MK Avigdor Itzchaky can only be respected for his stand then and now. He proves that there are a few Knesset Members who have some decency in them! Olmert MUST go! How can a Prime Minister stay in office when the vast majority of the citizens of this country do not support him? That is not democracy. Ehud Olmert was not directly elected and thus his party must do the right thing or face extinction in the next election.

In civilised countries when a member of parliament resigns the seat is up for grabs in a bi-election open to all challengers, not automatically retained by the party. We need some serious election reforms.

For a couple of years I have been reading and participating in these tbs. I have heard constant growling and complaining about the government but nothing has been done. Is there no leaders among you. Are you to lazy to go to the streets. You prefer to sit in comfort in your homes and complain on tbs and do nothing to change the situation. Either put up or shut up! If you want new government, go get it. You are the people. If there is one leader among you, step forward, organize protests. Do something! Otherwise, talk about the weather or sports or something.

Hasn't the army been politicized enough? Will they next hold meetings of ham-ass or sh-ass there. Do they have a meeting hall of the enemies of Israel for these events?