outnumbering you. what is you plan now?

How conveniently soon you forget. the shrine erected by Israelis at the Meir Kahane Memorial Park at Kiryat Arba in the occupied West Bank to honor the murdering terrorist Goldstein. Not only is the park named to honor the terrorist Meir Kahane who led the terrorist group Kach that Goldstein was a member, but the grave of Baruch Goldstein was for years a shrine to celebrate the murdering of 29 innocent lives in the name of Zionism and the Settler movement. So don't lie to me about your "decency" or try to fool myself or the world into believing that Israelis are somehow morally superior when Israelis do and have done exactly the same thing that today you condemn, and do so with state funding to boot. BTW - Since you live near by, have you been to the Lehi museum in Tel Aviv that honors another Jewish Terrorists group commonly known as the Stern Gang? You know, right there on Avraham Stern street that is so decently named to honor its cold blooded murderer of a leader who was finally killed by British police at the hideout which is now the museum itself. I guess my standard of decency is just a wee bit higher than yours.

several weeks ago, the eight boys would probably be alive. !

It seems you are a victim of liberal Seular Humanism and multi-culturism. There can only be one truth and there is only one G-d, and there can be no peace without justice and you cannot make peace with people who want to kill you simply because you exist!

Pray tell me what is wrong with Sweden, France and/or England? To all those who are in the habit of maligning the "Left" it might do you some good (I hope) to remember that it was the so-called Leftists who built the country. No country, Left or Right can allow some of its citizens to take the law into their own hands. Jewish fanaticism is every bit as despicable as is Arab fanaticism and self-destructive when all iis said and done.

same with jews and arabs. we tried to offer them an olive branch a million times. we asked them to be our neighbors and live beside us in peace. we offered them a chance to be apart of this thriving country that we are building with our sweat and our blood. but everytime we extend our hand, they spit on us... they kill our children... they chop up our brothers and dance in their blood. they act like animals. so, now we tried our best. we went to marriage counseling for 60 years, and the arabs are becoming more and more evil and hateful. so its time to finally say goodbye to our long lost neighbors, the arabs. it's time that the jews and the arabs call it quits. its time we breakup this sad and destructive relationship. its time we get a divorce and go our seperate ways...

Dumb people do dumb things. ...and the rest of us pay for their stupidity.

no single tear gas, no single rubber bullet, no single stunning grenade. It appears that the Israeli caliber and civilized tech of hurling stone is far more advanced than the Arab's counterpart.

To 23,24, 30, 31, To 24: Another free-thinking liberal who comments on “extreme rightism” when Jews finally have enough of the terrorist attacks on them and do something about it on their own, but do you say the same thing on Muslim websites about extremeism…probably not because you know that unlike the Israeli “right”, the Muslim right could kill you for saying such things to them. To 23, 30, 31: You would like nothing more than the UN to outlaw Israeli self defense so it would be even easer to try to destroy them. You see the weakness in Israel because of their current leaders and secularism, and you smell blood, but be on notice - The Protector of Israel is strong! I am not talking about the USA who is now betraying Israel…I am talking about the G-d of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, The Holy One of Israel. He is the only true G-d and He alone is sovereign, declaring the end from the beginning, and from the ancient times things that are not yet done. He loves them and honors those who honor them, in spite of Israel's current state of disbelief because He is faithful. You are subject to Him and He, alone, will protect Israel and in the end only Israel will stand.

As long as Israel is able to put those mediocre maniacs in their place it's a true democracy. No doubt. Look back to extinct Nazi Germany and its SA (Sturm-Abteilung) and you may imagine what can be meant when the mob riots in the streets. It's just an offer to people with a bit of common sense to further hold on to a firm Israeli democracy. The bestiality of this blodsheed in the Jerusalem yeshiva hat to be utterly condemened, but no Sippenhaft (kin liability). Don't throw your high ethical standards away ... Thank you

So YNets interpretation of a Right wing is anyone that stands up against the terrorists?

To Realism: I wonder how we in the US would act if, for example, the families of themurderers on those college and high school campuses put up similar mourning tents? After the bombing in Oklahoma City, hundreds of miitant groups disbanded, and thousands stopped being members. The anti-Semitic leader was executed. Only in Israel can a family of a mass murderer be allowed to spit on his victims graves, while supporters give out candy and further insult. Personally I do not approve of any of these antics, but understand why these young men took the law into their own hands. It's obviously out of terrible frustration with the govt's inability to stop the violence. If I call for the complete destruction of the Arab enclave, would that define me as right or left wing? Maybe just a real upset guy? Israel's security was lax, but the fault is with the Arab community entirely. They simply don't want to live with the Jews, within, without, or side by side (Bush). Until Israel gets realistic about it's problem, this will all continue. Israel is trying to put a patc here and a patch there. Won't work. Bottom line: separate the two people's once and for all. Whatever it takes. Some problems are just unsolveable. After 100 yrs, the basic conflict just goes on, and on..like the battery commerial., except with two rabbits. Give the Arabs a choice, either live in peace with the Jews, or go your own way...with a one way bus ticket OUT.

Steve, If you can't figure out the sarcasm in what i wrote, you need to go back to kindergarten. Groucho Marx once said and I believe either Nipsy Russel or Flip Wilson stole the line: " I WOULD NEVER JOIN A CLUB THAT WOULD HAVE ME AS A MEMBER". Now get some coffee and slowly read what I wrote: "Palestinians should protest Jews behaving like Palestinians". Do we need to do this two or three more times until you figure it out? The word in English for you to look up is "Self Deprication". Let me and everyone know when you finally get it!

I am not a victim of liberal secular humanism (whatever you mean by that catchy phrase). Multiculturism I see as the result of God populating the earth with different peoples....do you critisize his works? I believe there is only one God. But I don't believe God can be fully understood/contained in only one truth. If God were finite, he could be described fully by one truth. Since I believe in an infinite God, I accept that any attempt at full description must be lacking. Thus I accept that other truths may also partially be valid. I don't think that any one truth, or all of them together, can fully describe God. I also believe there can be no peace without justice.

To 46, Forgive me, for it is obvious your intelligence is far superior to mine. *sarcasm* <---(look an emoticon for clarity). Would it be trite to recite that it is the lowest form of wit? I understand the irony in the point you were trying to make; however, in making that point you were still claiming that these desperate Jews were behaving like Palestinians, were you not? You say I over-reacted -maybe, but unlike Palestinians who hurdle rocks at Jews praying on the Temple Mount, they were throwing rocks at terrorists’ houses Their government has their hands tied by the international community and will not do enough to deter these murderers and it is the civilians that are being targeted by the terrorists. Palestinians do it out of hate, they were acting out of self-preservation. There are better ways to deal with the terrorists, but those that have that power to do so are not willing. This is war and the Palestinians declared it.

To 47, I am sorry if I sounded insulting. You believe that all roads can lead to heaven and G-d can’t be described by one truth, but friend you are being deceived. G-d would not create us and then not reveal Himself to us. He would not leave us in the dark about how serve Him and be obedient to Him. Only the G-d of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, The Holy One of Israel, the Great I Am has done so, and done so in a way that we can know it is true. He did it through Prophesy. Isaiah 46:9 states: “Remember the former things, those of long ago; I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is none like me. I make known the end from the beginning, from ancient times, what is still to come. I say: My purpose will stand, and I will do all that I please.“ The L-d has a 100% accuracy rate. Things look scary for Israel right now, but G-d is in control.

you put words in my mouth: I do not believe in an afterlife (heaven)..and did not mention it in previous comment. I believe we are in God's world now...and that's all I need to know at this point. You then go on to describe what God would and would not do. I think that's presumptuous. I do not believe anybody should speak for or in the name of God. Then you state that "Only the G-d of Abraham..." has revealed himself. In this statement, you build upon your previous presumptuousness of describing God's mind ("He would not leave us in the dark about how serve Him....."), by limiting God's contact to humankind to only our small sect. I believe God has revealed Himself to all humankind with the same message. Unfortunately, humankind does not always understand....or even worse, purposly distorts His message for political or cultural reasons. God's message is the same to all peoples. It is our challenge to find this common truth in all the holy books. The quote from Isaiah is beautiful.

To 47: “you put words in my mouth: I do not believe in an afterlife (heaven)..and did not mention it in previous comment. I believe we are in God's world now...and that's all I need to know at this point. “ So there is no more confusion, you believe in G-d then, but not the afterlife, and you believe that G-d created us strictly for this world, as cruel as it is? I can point you to many scriptures that contradict this and promise the afterlife, but if you don’t trust scripture you will find no comfort in them. You say that what you believe is all you need to know, What do you base that on? “You then go on to describe what God would and would not do. I think that's presumptuous. I do not believe anybody should speak for or in the name of God.” I don’t need to presume because, unlike you, I have faith in Scripture, which I believe with all my heart is G-d’s special revelation to man, becuause He said it is. You stated that you believe in G-d (easy to do since creation is proof of a Creator) though it seems you are not sure which G-d you believe in since the G-d of the Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is different than Allah, (Buddha, who is not revered a god), or the many gods of Hinduism; however, logic must beg this question: why did G-d create us if He wasn’t going to reveal Himself to us or give us life after death. How can all “truths” be valid when they contradict each other? If G-d made multiple “truths” that contradict each other, would that mean then that G-d lies? If He hid truth in a bunch of falsehoods and left it to us to sort out truth from falsehoods, how can we know which parts if each “truth” is truth and which parts are lies? Can man really be trusted to do this? But the L-d says, “6 Seek the LORD while He may be found, Call upon Him while He is near. 7 Let the wicked forsake his way, And the unrighteous man his thoughts; Let him return to the LORD, And He will have mercy on him; And to our God, For He will abundantly pardon. 8 “ For My thoughts are not your thoughts, Nor are your ways My ways,” says the LORD. 9 “ For as the heavens are higher than the earth, So are My ways higher than your ways, And My thoughts than your thoughts. 10 “ For as the rain comes down, and the snow from heaven, And do not return there, But water the earth, And make it bring forth and bud, That it may give seed to the sower And bread to the eater, ****11 So shall My word be that goes forth from My mouth; It shall not return to Me void, But it shall accomplish what I please, And it shall prosper in the thing for which I sent it.**** 12 “ For you shall go out with joy, And be led out with peace; The mountains and the hills Shall break forth into singing before you, And all the trees of the field shall clap their hands. 13 Instead of the thorn shall come up the cypress tree, And instead of the brier shall come up the myrtle tree; And it shall be to the LORD for a name, For an everlasting sign that shall not be cut off.” It is easy to see why truth is relative to an atheist, not so easy with someone who believes in G-d.

“Then you state that "Only the G-d of Abraham..." has revealed himself. In this statement, you build upon your previous presumptuousness of describing God's mind ("He would not leave us in the dark about how serve Him....."), by limiting God's contact to humankind to only our small sect.” I wonder why you referred to this “sect” that believes in “Only the G-d of Abraham…” as “our small sect” when you have already stated that this “sect” does not include you since you don’s believe in only Him; however, my statement that only the L-d’s revelations can be trusted because of fulfilled prophesy is not built on a presupposition, but what I know of history and what I observe in the news of today! This is not presuming that I know G-d’s thoughts, but I can observe His actions and verify that what He predicted would happen has happened or is happening now, accurate to the very detail. This is no small point to pass over. Consider Israel. They were scattered, remained a distinct but persecuted people, then were re gathered as a people in their own land and become a nation again in one day, and they regained Jerusalem and that fact is a huge problem for the world just as was predicted by the prophets over 2,000 years ago and this “coincidence” has no other explanation than fulfilled prophesy. Have you read these prophesies in the Torah. These are verifiable. People are unfamiliar with prophesy fulfillment because they are not familiar with the prophesies to begin with. There are others as well. Take Ezekiel 38 and 39 for instance. That alliance determined to destroy Israel is forming now between Russia, Iran, Libya, and the other Islamic nations right before our eyes and I don’t have to tell you how they feel about Israel. Also, here we read about a weapon of mass destruction that can also be used for fuel and requires special clean up when used. Described by a prophet when a weapon of mass destruction was a sword! No other religion or religious text dares to predict history in advance other than the G-d of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Since this is verifiable, how can you say “our small sect” is not the right one? I don’t have to speak for G-d, He has spoken for Himself!

“I believe God has revealed Himself to all humankind with the same message. Unfortunately, humankind does not always understand....or even worse, purposly distorts His message for political or cultural reasons. “ Agreed, but he gave us only one message, though you will disagree. Fulfilled prophesy proves which message is the genuine one.

“God's message is the same to all peoples. It is our challenge to find this common truth in all the holy books. The quote from Isaiah is beautiful.” Though you can look though all the “holy books” for truth, in only one will you see history predicted in advance and fulfilled. That quote from Isaiah is beautiful because it is true.