Opinion  Sever Plocker
Obama and the Jews
Sever Plocker
Published: 25.03.08, 16:29
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61. Armando....lost your green card?
(03.26.08)
if you have one that is......Migra migra......;-)
62. Jewish Intellectuals
CCPony ,   US   (03.26.08)
Once every four years, Jewish Intellectuals are hardly intellectual, indeed.
63. #56, Abe Froman 's slander
Phil ,   US   (03.26.08)
Abe, you are so dumb. First of all, how do you know if I voted for George Bush? Were you in the voting booth with me? Anyway, you forgot to mention that Bush was the governor of Texas, not just theowner of a baseball team or didn't you know. Since you obviously are not going to vote for Hillary Clinton, I could certainlyu accuse you of being a sexist and not voting for her because she is a woman. However, any sane person knows that many people 's votes have nothing to do with race or sex. They have to do with policies that the candidate supports, the candidate's track record, and displayed competence. In your small world, anybody who criticizes Barak, whether it is legitimate or not, is a racist. I hope you read the YNET article on General Tony McPeak, one of Obama's trusted adviser. According to the YNET article, McPeak blames American Jews for the lack of progress between the Palestinians and the Israelis. He also accues the American Jewish community and Christian supporters of Israel as encouraging the Iraq War to protect Israel. Let me see, Obama's preacher is anti-Israel, his foeign policiy advisers are less than friendly towards Israel and he employs as his campaign director, a man who is not only anti-Israel but is also ac cusing American Jews as agents against the best interests of America. Yet Abe, you continue to accuse anybody who doesn't agree with you as a racist. american Jews for the a
64. #54 Kenya
Armando ,   Denver, USA   (03.26.08)
What an incredibly racist diatribe. We're supposed to elect a Black man because of something that happened 120 years ago? To Blacks? That I had nothing to do with?
65. Good Article!!! Smart observation!!
Avraham ,   los angeles, CA., U.   (03.26.08)
66. a note
sahar ,   jerusalem   (03.26.08)
in general.. you mustguiss the results fromthe cause but i see manypeople like wright guiss the causes after the results i think even it is healthy but sure itis nottrue .and i think it apears when there are failed policyor dishonest one and i think this kind ofpolicy whichis failedand dishonest is presentes with the powerfullmen or they think they are
67. obama funded terror
barak is dodgy   (03.26.08)
he sat on the board he funded and ran arab american action group in chicago he associated with confessed terrorists there are PLO connections....etc wait until the election really starts for this stuff to all come out that is, unless the mainstream media wants to ignore it
68. Change Tell us what the CHANGE IS?
Gary ,   USA   (03.26.08)
69. sever ploker and the mercenaries who profit from frightening
Sean ,   Montreal, Quebec   (03.26.08)
Well Sever, I went on Youtube and watched a few of the reverend's sermons. You are full of beans sir. There was no anti Jewish diatribe nor hatred for the destruction of America. He is a preacher and as such he was preaching to his congregation that their country was reaping the seeds of of their violent past. He also was rather vehement about rich white men running their society. Perhaps you were under the impression that the poor and downtrodden are managing the affairs of state in the USA ? If there is any awakening to anti-semitism that needs to be done here, it is for people to realize that there always have been and probably always will be, men like you who for their own profit sell lies to instill fear in the Jewish people.It must be very dark on your side of the fence.
70. American Jews are idiots
Ran   (03.26.08)
in the true political sense of the word. At the same time, it's a fact that non-mainstream media exposed the facts a long long time ago and the mainstream media covered them up UNTIL THEY COULD NO LONGER GET AWAY WITH IT.
71. #54, If you attended Passover, you should know the differenc
AK   (03.26.08)
Passover isn't about hate, but about new beginnings. You remember where you were -- a slave, but you do not dwell on hating the Egyptians, but celebrating freedom and the God that delivered the Israelites from slavery. On Passover, the Jews do not dwell on the slavery; they remember it, but celebrate freedom. Time for the African Americans to do the same. Write doesn't remember the past, he lives it. Jews have a very long history of suffering, much longer than you but they always look toward the future (even if never forgetting the past, the future is what's important) . Frankly I have never heard of any Jews asking that the doubts about any Jewish political candidate be set aside because of the past Jewish suffering. I think that the true measure of equality is to treat ALL candidates the same. I believe, Obama is treated with velvet gloves. Obama set for 20 years in that church in which Rev. Wright taught hate of Whites and Jews. If those are not Obama's believes, why didn't he leave that church? There is also the question of Brzezinski and other Israel hater and anti-Semites advising him. For the Jews it is a real concern. (Brzezinski behaves like a typical well educated anti-Semite, which only means he would never use crude words referring to Jews.)
72. Rachel, Jews are strangely trusting lot.
AK   (03.26.08)
After all, I still remember those Jews who trustingly believed that the Oslo Plan will bring Israel peace and tranquility and had called me doomsayer because I saw Oslo as a reckless gamble with human lives and the country's security and very low adds of winning. Now we are being asked to take a gamble on Obama. Why should we? I am a strong believer that if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it is very unlikely to turn out to be a bird of paradise. Somehow I don't believe Obama will turn out to be our long-awaited 'messiah' , his formidable oratorical skills to the contrary.
73. Abe, as someone who voted Gore, I can criticise Obama.
AK   (03.26.08)
And don't be concerned about what Obama says to AIPAC, worry what he says to others. The problem with American Jews is that they forget that not the empty words but the deeds that matter. Obama is known to be pro-Arab. And just like a pic of Bush with that Saudi prince turned out to be an excellent indicator where Bush stood on Israel (nice words to AIPAC notwithstanding) Perhaps it is a good time now to see with whom Obama holds hands.
74. #16, that's not necessarily true..
Connie ,   Virginia   (03.26.08)
but since most black americans vote for democrats, that is what scares them. If Alan Keyes were running for president and it looked like he would get the republican nomination, I would vote for him over McCain.
75. If Obama is elected
matisyahu ,   USA   (03.26.08)
Israel's ties with america will weaken, allowing Israel to make more independent decisions, unforced by American "peacemakers"
76. "Obama and the Jews"
Sam Bolivar ,   New York, NY   (03.26.08)
Mr. Plocker - We are ALL filled with stains, my friend. I think that Sen. Obama is more concerned with genuinely serving the needs of the 98% of Americans who are NOT Jewish, than with bending over backwards to continue failing policies which contradict the earnest desires and public opinion in OUR nation, and indeed the entire world! I don't like everything about Obama, that's for sure - but at least he inspires hope for a better future for the United States - which is far more than can be said of the fear-mongering warmongers Clinton and McCain... May G*d/Yahweh/Allah bless our suffering world.
77. Sean, #69, I really think you have issues
Jake   (03.27.08)
if you believe that Jeremiah Wright is just a preacher. What do the words "God Damn America" mean to you!
78. Rachel, #55, this so-called principled judgment
Jake   (03.27.08)
of Obama boils down to one tiny speech he gave in Chicago in 2002, as a IL state legislator, before he ever announced he was going to run for US Senate. He didn't give the speech because he knew the Iraq war would turn out badly, but because his constituency in poor, crime-ridden deprived South Side Chicago has a history of disillusionment with US Government policies, mostly domestic, but by extension also foreign. That is why Jeremiah Wright's sermons are not controversial there, to say the least, and that is why Obama gave his stump speech in 2002, because he was already "preaching to the converted". It wouldn't matter if Saddam were the Devil himself. Obama would have knocked the US government policy. Had he served in the US Senate at the time, things would have been a whole lot different. Obama is no clairvoyant, and the fact that you believe he has "principled judgment" at this point, it only goes to show that you've been duped and simply believe what you want to believe.
79. Last time I looked Obama was Black
Josh   (03.27.08)
He states "honest fury of blacks in America". So it reasons that he being black, he must think he is entitled to the same same honest fury. Honest in what way, against the whites, the Jews, the govement. People blaming their problems on someone else, anyone else but themselves and God's rebuke? Many blacks have lived for generations without having to work. Many have not. So are the working blacks as furious as the non working? Will black america be entitled to take farms from white farmers like the black leaders in south africa did? That type of fury? A Los Angeles riots kind of fury where 79 white people are murdered and the nation just forgets the transgression? And are their blacks who aren't furious? Is his statement encouraging non furious blacks to become furious by saing getting furious is honest? Obama shows he not only identifies with such rantings, but that he thinks they are justified. He doese not have to be a supporter of black fury to get the black vote. So why does he identify with this? By his participation and donations for the last twenty years, he has not only supported but promoted this preacher in the world's eyes. Normal people who hear such twisted and slanderous language would get up from their seats and leave or even more, object. Instead this man sat silently for twenty years and I would like to say he did nothing but the fact is he made this preacher a national personality. We know what doing nothing is about from the hollacaust. We also know how people went from silent to being the heads of concentration camps. Would he be the type of president to send away the St Louis ship again? No thanks Obama. In fact no thanks to all politicians but especially those who tolerate and promote people who are hate ranting mongers of division.
80. Insipid Argument
Jerry ,   Eilat   (03.27.08)
Plocker writes: "The second line of reasoning was about character: Pastor Wright, Obama said, is a man of noble character, warm, embracing, and people-loving. " That Obama uses that argument shows a level of naïveté which is explains why he must be kept out of the White House. His comment is almost the one that is always applied to an individual who is gone mad. "Such a nice guy!" What does he expect you will find when he sits down with dictators in North Korea and Iran. I would be shocked if they were not "nice guys" in face-to-face conversations. It is just that they have one little button on their desk that can spell nuclear destruction. Naïveté is not a qualification for the presidency.
81. to Kenya #54
Susan ,   Kfar Saba   (03.27.08)
I am Jewish. When I was yung I looked forward to going away to college where I would meet people from all different backgrounds. I found that many; of the black girls at best didn't want to be friends with me, at worst some were hostile to all whites. I thought that in 30 years maybe some things had changed. Now I see that they haven't and I know why. Its people like Pastor Wright, speading his racist hate and brainwashing young minds.
82. to Kenya #54 continued
Susan ,   Kfar Saba   (03.27.08)
I don't hate Russians because their grandparents did progroms against my grandparents(yes my own grandparents, not ancestors 5-10 generations ago), nor do I hate all Germans because of the Holocaust. You can remember your ancestors suffering, as we do on Passover, but you don't have to hate their decendents who had nothing to do with it. I try to treat everyone I meet with dignity and respect and I don't deserve to be looked at with contempt, the way some African Americans do.
83. Obamas grandmother
Susan ,   Kfar Saba   (03.27.08)
I also don't think Obama should have dissed his grandmother publically like that. It was disrespectful and if I were her I would cringe. Then I would call him up and give him a piece of my mind.
84. Choosing a President
gadees ,   Vanco.   (03.27.08)
Its hard to find a candidate that will suit your criteria for a president who wil put Israel and every Israeli citizen at the top of his agenda.If thats the qulifications a president should posses, my suggestion is that a council of Israeli elders is to be attached to the White House where no decision can be taken without their approval.I think, this way may calm down your anxieties.
85. #41Get Obama to Apostatize
gadees ,   Vanco.   (03.27.08)
The only approprate solution for Obama's conandrum is to convert him into Judiasm.This way, Israel can sleep easly.
86. A VOTE FOR OBAMANATION
petra ,   USA   (03.27.08)
IS A VOTE AGAINST ISRAEL AND HER ABILITY TO SURVIVE.
87. # 4 YANKLE THE JEW AMEN BROTHER
petra ,   USA   (03.27.08)
SLOWLY EVERYONE IS BEING EXPOSED TO 'REVERSE DISCRIMINATION'. OBAMA THREW HIS WHITE GRANDMA UNDER THE BUS WHILE TRYING TO RESCUE ANOTHER MORE WHITE THAN BLACK PASTOR DISASTER, WRIGHT ( WHOS UNDERCOVER) HE SUPPORTS PALS TERROR AT THE EXPENSE OF AMERICAS TRUE ALLY, ISRAEL.
88. # 8 DAVID MASADA NO WORRIES
petra ,   USA   (03.27.08)
EVERYONE SEES FOR THEMSELVES WHAT MUSLIMS DO IN A 'CHRISTIAN' CHURCH. EVEN JESUS WOULD GAG. CERTAINLY, MOST AMERICANS DO AS WELL. WRIGHT HELPS MC CAIN WIN BY DEFAULT!
89. # 11 JEFF YES MC CAIN WILL TAKE IT FROM OBAMANATION.
petra ,   USA   (03.27.08)
WAIT TIL THE REPUBS PLAY COWBOY AND OBAMANATION. HE'LL BE SCALPED.
90. # 12 CANADIANS CAN'T VOTE IN AMERICA.
petra ,   USA   (03.27.08)
BUT, I AGREE WITH YOU WHOLEHEARTEDLY.
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