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Animal rights groups against Passover sacrifice
Kobi Nahshoni
Published: 02.04.08, 06:54
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1. shouldn't they support this?
ora ,   Jerusalem   (04.02.08)
Thousands of animals are killed for Israeli consumption every day. In this case, people will at least see the bloody and unpleasant process of the death itself. Why wouldn't animal rights groups support that? If animals will be killed anyway (and they will), at least let people see how it's done, there's nothing more likely to create a few new vegetarians. Also, I love that this guy is quoting Torah sources to prove that sacrifice isn't allowed. It seems he hasn't read the whole thing just yet.
2. Antisemitic: Jews have right to practice their religion
Andras Bereny ,   Kfar Tapuah, Ephraim   (04.02.08)
3. Animal slaughter OK - Gay parade not OK
Talula ,   Israel   (04.02.08)
Can anyone see what is so wrong here? Only savages would slaughter an animal and think it's OK. And only those same savages would run riot and attempt murder to stop a harmless gay parade. The divide between secular and religious is indeed growing.
4. Etl Altman (pictured).
jewish mother ,   jerusalem   (04.02.08)
Looks like someone let this animal live. Not sure if it was so humane, tho'.
5. thanks msm for giving fringers a voice
Rami   (04.02.08)
only lefty fringers mind you, of course.
6. Why don't they ask the same for islamic version ???
trumpeldor ,   eurabia   (04.02.08)
7. passover
stephen ,   ludlow, usa   (04.02.08)
The Passover sacrifice was killed in 33 ad, as He was ment to be. All the prophets pointed this out. The Jews were fulfilling this task, even tho they knew it not. Praise god, they did this that all might partake and be saved by the His blood.
8. #3 Nothing's wrong but YOUR ignorance.
Miriam ,   Israel   (04.02.08)
There's NO prohibition in our TORAH against slaughtering animals, but there IS a GRAVE PROHIBITION against immorality and abomination.
9. This is the same organization that stick up for
Miriam ,   Israel   (04.02.08)
terrorist animals and have no regard for Torah and Jews.
10. #4 YOU are the animal
Talula ,   Israel   (04.02.08)
This country would slide back 10,000years if it wasn't for people like Eti Altman. Attacking someone's looks to make your point is disgusting, but then again, I wouldn't expect anything different from a wig wearing, sponger.
11. What is the point?
Josh   (04.02.08)
A sacrafice is made to G-d. If the Temple institute is not doing it for God, then this is sick behavior and blasphemy. If they are doing it as part of the Pesach requirement and they intend to eat it with their loins girded and staff in their hand, enjoy! Just remember none of it should be left over till the morning.
12. Barbaric and primitiave practices
Simon ,   TA Israel   (04.02.08)
Hard to believe this is the year 2008 when they murder innocent animals for so called religious practices. Although what should we expect from the Jerusalam municipality who have no regard for human life (arab) let alone animals. End animal suffering now. Become a vegetarian now.
13. #8 Barbarians
Talula ,   Israel   (04.02.08)
I don't CARE what some outdated old claptrap says. Human decency tells me it's WRONG to slaughter animals in this way. It's abhorrent and disgusting. I will NEVER agree to such a thing, doesn't matter WHO or WHAT tells me it's OK. You are blind and stupid and have been raised to believe that only YOU are pure and of a higher moral standing than anyone else......WRONG!!! you are not. You are judgmental, backwards, narrow minded and hopeless. Yesterday MK Benizri, was convicted of fraud, bribery and breach of trust - and that is DEFINITELY prohibited in the Torah. Or are you going to tell me now that it is? LOL! I’ve no patience for the likes of you. You attempt to justify evil just because it was committed by a fellow religious nutcase. You are sick deranged people with no regard or respect for human feelings or life….. only money. You make me sick to the stomach.
14. talula
kobi ,   oz   (04.02.08)
i like you. you are correct! "wig wearing sponger". classic. where in the torah does it say that women must degrade themselves like this? along with dressing like penguins, this is part of a polish cult which has next to nothing to do with the ancient traditions.
15. Animal Sacrifice
NYC Girl   (04.02.08)
As if it weren't bad enough these retrograde religious fanatics are trying to turn Israel into some sort of medieval throwback, but now they're going to publicly perform this stomach-turning ritual against innocent animals. Why don't they just go back to stoning adulterers while they're at it? And then they wonder why so many Israelis feel such contempt for them.
16. #12, Simon
Kev ,   London   (04.02.08)
Become a vegetarian? No way. I eat about TEN chickens a day to grow my muscles H-U-G-E!!! You should do the same.
17. #3 Talulu, You're an idiot
Eli ,   Jerusalem   (04.02.08)
Gays have every right to march in Jerusalem, and the religious have no right to kill animals in public. G-d is not on your side.
18. Ignorant -
GreatestGrandma ,   Petach Tikvah Israel   (04.02.08)
I like these people that come up against Jewish laws with such Ignorance. Did you notice that she is portrayed as someone in the continuing education? She must be learning arrogance anything, but the Jewish laws. This sound very much like the writer Nam Barkan, that wrote about the Mezuzah. I ,would not want to eat anything that was not slaughtered and go someplace without a Mezuzah. I did react to the other problem with a letter to the ynet staff now I think we have to publicize it To whom this may concern: I have just noticed an article written 21/2/08 by a Nam Barkan- titled Machleket Nishikah. I found it interesting to note what he/she noticed a Mezuzah, carrying infectious diseases. I just spent some time in the hospital, and find it very disturbing. Infectious, nauseating, and disgusting! That is what I found at the Israeli hospital. 1. How could this writer not notice the nursing staff's callus work, like cleaning and disinfecting the bed and room when a sick person leaves the hospital? Go into the hospital and see the dust on the beds that have not been cleaned for weeks. 2. The preparation of meds to the patients. 3. The nurses’ aides (the ones distributing the food to the patients) eating from the patients trays and utensils 4. The emergency room telling patients to get onto someone else’s pee beds!!!!! 5. Nurses starting infusion (IV lines) without clearing the line of air!!! And let alone the infectious air that everyone breaths that’s in the air and not only in the Hospital system. Do you care for me to go on and on or is it just the Mezuzah that he/she cares to mention. Maybe if it were not for the Mezuzah there would be greater losses and infections. And before attacking me check out my claims, go into a hospital like Belinsohn and see for yourself! A worried grandma
19. Wrong again, Talula
jewish mother ,   jerusalem   (04.02.08)
This so-called wig-wearing sponger is a religious Zionist with two sons in the army and a working husband. Or was it jsut the word "jewish" that bothers you???
20. i'm joining PETA right now!!!
jman ,   neve yaakov   (04.02.08)
Please Eat Tasty Animals!!!!! research shows that the traditional jewish "shechita" is the most painless of all the ways to slaughter an animal. and please don't be cruel to the poor veggies, they have no self defense against the mean pickers!!!
21. Innocent Animals
Lindsey ,   UK   (04.02.08)
Talula - spot on !! I agree with every word you say but instead of sacrificing animals, why not sacrifice the many "wig wearing spongers" who parade around like Batman clones .... now that I would pay good money to see !!
22. Every time you eat meat an animal dies...
Ilan   (04.02.08)
Not even Talula is a sacred cow. If eating kosher meat is legal then kosher slaughter must be legal too. Funny that these people don't think to prevent Moslems from eating meat during Ramadan and Idr el Fitr. Are only other peoples beliefs worthy of respect?
23. Did you know Romania was told by the EU to stop
Rivkah   (04.02.08)
sacrificing pigs for Christmas or they could be invaded for animal rights violations if they became an EU State? They stopped sacrificing pigs for Christmas. I guess it is all right to kill animals for food as long as it is not a religious ritual. The significance of that is that when Israel starts animal sacrifices again for religious reasons, the world community will react similarly because that will give them an excuse to invade Israel and kill Jews on the pretext it is to protect animals from religious sacrifice rituals. Of course, it is all right to slaughter animals for food as long as religion is not in the picture.
24. I favor Oslo - sacrifice of Jews on the altar of Peace(tm)
Talula ,   Rabinland   (04.02.08)
25. #17 Glad you agree with me
Talula ,   Israel   (04.02.08)
That's what I said - Gays have every right to march in Jerusalem and the religous have no right to kill animals in public. FOOL!
26. #6 Because they do not have the guts.
Etoile ,   Montreal, CAN   (04.02.08)
Excuse the pun. But seriously, these lunatics would not exhibit such boldness if this were a halal slaughter.
27. #13 Talula The TORAH is ETERNAL just like the JEWS are.
Miriam ,   Israel   (04.02.08)
You don't have to care but that's a fact if you like it or not. Torah laws are not like Ehud Barak's on-the-spot-made-up-laws or change of laws according to his moods or Beinish's fancy. "Human decency" is not more moral than Torah. YOU are the one talking about "human decency" and YOU support the most inhuman corrupt immoral behavior - namely: gays. You seem to be completely mixed up. You write: "Yesterday MK Benizri, was convicted of fraud, bribery and breach of trust - and that is DEFINITELY prohibited in the Torah. Or are you going to tell me now that it is? LOL!" Oh, yes? It’s “DEFINITELY prohibited in the Torah”. If you’re so knowledgeable in Torah, where in the Torah is it mentioned that one is not allowed to bribe a person other than judges. Is Benizri a judge? Did he bribe judges?????? LOL! And you write: "I’ve no patience for the likes of you. You attempt to justify evil just because it was committed by a fellow religious nutcase. You are sick deranged people with no regard or respect for human feelings or life….. only money. You make me sick to the stomach." You know why you have no patience? Because the truth is on the Torah's side and that hurts and it hurts you quite much. It's your illiteracy and hatred for Torah laws that are proper laws that makes you sick. It's time you start studying the Torah and realize what a fool you have been till now and you’ll become well.
28. #11 Josh
David ,   USA   (04.02.08)
You're getting close Josh, but tell me where they are to find an altar sanctified for this purpose. Doesn't Torah place the altar upon the Temple mount? Is it acceptable to just build an altar anywhere one pleases? It was different in Egypt. There was no Temple mount. But what does Torah teach in this regard? Please give me your opinion.
29. EVERY ANIMAL EATEN IS SLAUGHTERED.
petra ,   USA   (04.02.08)
THIS ONE ACT IS GIVEN BY OUR HIGHER POWER AND SHE HAS A PROBLEM WITH THAT? HELL, EVEN EATING AN EGG IS SLAUGHTER. ONE MORE SILLY REASON THAT TRIES TO DIMINISH WHAT'S HOLY AND WHAT'S TO BE REMEMBERED. LET HER EAT CAKE. OR, OFF WITH HER HEAD. LOL
30. # 3 Actually...
Keren ,   Israel-SP   (04.02.08)
The divide between simpleton,ignorant,uncultured jews and religious,intelligent ,cultured Jews is indeed growing.
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