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Minister Ben-Eliezer: Israel-PA peace process is virtual
Attila Somfalvi
Published: 05.04.08, 14:30
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1. Marwan Barghouti way to peace
jerome ,   basalt, co   (04.05.08)
Who and how many would Marwan Barghouti kill to make peace?
2. Ben-Eliezer is a sneaky leftist LIAR. Do not trust him!
Dan Nuria ,   Holon, Israel   (04.05.08)
I know him personally. He wants arch terrorist freed for his own political goals. He uses scare tactics to fool people. He is a leftist criminal who should be in jail. And mass murderer Barghouti should be hanged!
3. I'm dumbfounded by this man's stupidity.
Terry ,   Eilat, Israel   (04.05.08)
G-d save Israel from Israeli politicians.
4. Ben-Eliezer ; WHAT ABOUT GILAT SHALIT ?
YITZAK BEN SHLOMO ,   Singapore   (04.05.08)
SMART ASS !
5. The achievement of the PLO and terrorism.
Dora Ziv ,   Haifa   (04.05.08)
A survey carried out the Panels Research Institute finds that more than 75% of Israelis see partial or total transfer of Israeli-Arabs out of Israel in any final-status agreement that includes a Palestinian state.The poll asked whether it would be justified, in the framework of an agreement for the establishment of a Palestinian state, to demand the transfer out of Israel of all Arabs. Nearly 30% said yes with no reservations, while 28% said only Arabs who did not express loyalty to Israel should be expelled. In addition, another 19% said that Arabs who lived in areas bordering the PA-controlled areas, such as Wadi Area and the southern Galilee, should be transferred out.The remainder, just under 25%, said no Arabs should be transferred out.The survey encompassed 668 respondents, taking part in a series of Panel4All internet surveys. The Panels Institute says the respondents are a representative sampling of the adult population in Israel, and that the margin of error is 3.7%. Practical details at : http://tinyurl.com/4ondq6
6. Ben Eliezer and fantasyland
Brod ,   USA   (04.05.08)
If he thinks Barghouti is the savior of the Islamist-Jihadists, then he must be out of his mind. Why would an Israeli help its enemies to recuperate and usurp Israel's liberated biblical and historic homeland? If the Leftists are more concerned with crusading the Jihadism of the Islamist-Jihadists, they do not belong in the Land of Israel. Israel should be wary of internal elements who seem more obsessed in rehabilitating its enemies than ensuring Israel's national security interests.
7. fuad
fish   (04.05.08)
This man looks like an overstuffed pita, and he gives advice of stupidity of cosmic proprotions. We heard it all before - let's strengthen Arafat, let's make concessions, let's give them more weapons, let's release their terrorists from jails. Result - bloodbath, and nobody bears any responsidility. Who gave the right to this pathteic bunch to play with our lives? Sadly - we did. Majority of Israelis bought this "peace process" and elected one idiot after another. Is Israel doomed? Is there anybody like Churchill on the horizon who will say instead of" concessions, peace talks etc. - "We shall fight on the shores, on the beaches, in the streets. We shall fight with growing strength and growing confidence. We shall defend our country. And we shall never surrender."? I only hope that the relatives of the people that the new Messiah - Mr Bargouti killed for his "peace process" - we'll block his release through legal means, and the whole country will send all these politicos like Fuad, Barak, Olmert - where they belong - garbage can.
8. Good idea
Matt ,   Israel   (04.05.08)
And why don't we see if we can call satan up from hell and ask himt o negotiate a peace deal for us? Does anyone actually believe this non-sense? One line says it all: "I respect Abbas and Fayyad; they are good people" Any man who says he respects men who are self-proclaimed terrorists, and calls them "good people" on top of it, is either insane, or else prepared to make a deal with the devil to further his own ends.
9. Ben-Eliezer
Mike Jefferson ,   Washington, D.C.   (04.05.08)
continues the peacemeal dismantling of Israel in search of a non-existent peace. Throw this bum out.
10. An even better idea
Amir ,   Beer Sheva   (04.05.08)
Make Assmanajad the Chairman of Labor. This will solve all Labor problems, including financial problems.
11. rewarding the Palestinians?
Shimshon ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (04.05.08)
Why should Israel reward the Palestinians and free Bargouti? We shouldn't free any terrorist so they just can make up a new government?! Where is the logic? http://www.shimshon9.com
12. Utter lies. this guy has lost the plot
3Jay3 ,   Israel   (04.05.08)
Hamass wants Barghouti released, Fatah doesnt! This is common knowledge and the reason why is because Barghouti will back Hamass and the terrorism it produces. Ben-Eliezer is nothing but a common leftist liar that would love to see Hamass destroy Israel..
13. Every time he opens his mouth,
eh-oop ,   UK   (04.05.08)
he weakens Israel's negotiating position.
14. Did you pay attention how
David ,   USA / ISRAEL   (04.05.08)
Olmert surround himself with stupid crooks So he can look better. I just wonder how much money he got payed to propose that.. Ben Eliezer was never good before and will never get any better. How about the arms he is talking about, wasn't he and his party who were in a rush to give it to them . they did it during the Oslo accord and hey did it again. You really have to be a real moron not to learn from your previous mistakes. What a sorry ass just like the rest of them
15. Mr Ben-Eliezer thinks he's important.
Terry ,   Eilat, Israel   (04.05.08)
He heard people saying, "That Ben-Eliezer, he carries a lot of weight." But they only meant he should go on a diet.
16. everyone and his own delusion
tom ,   toronto, canada   (04.05.08)
yes, the current "peace process" with the palestinians is a farce, since the palestinians themselves have declared that their goal is not peaceful co-existence, but rather to extract the maximum in concessions before resuming the war to annihilate israel. but what kind of mirage is ben-eliezer chasing? what makes barghouti, the convicted master-terrorist, the miraculous "secret ingredient" that will bring peace to israel? "strong leadership", under arafat, only brought israel more attacks. and strong leadership, under hamas, has been no better. the argument that the palestinians cannot negotiate from weakness, is at best an unproven hypothesis, but it is certainly NOT a proof that a strong leadership will want to make peace! ben-eliezer is trying to sell the world his own, personal, delusional fiixation with barghouti, as if it were divine revelation. perhaps he shouldn't stop taking his medication.
17. It Is Obscene To Even Call It A "Peace" Process
MK ,   Philadelphia USA   (04.05.08)
18. How about freeing Yigal Amir?
jason white ,   afula,israel   (04.05.08)
This fool faud shows he is as stupid as they come. Time to destroy the palis and not reward them. Time to retake our land that the palis are trespassing on! Time to have new elections and get rid of the regime in power now.
19. TERRY, TERRY, TERRY.........................
AVROHOM BILGREI ,   ZION   (04.05.08)
EMAIL ME ?
20. Sound like Pace Now mantra
(04.06.08)
"We are leading ourselves toward a binational state, and therefore we have a bigger interest than the Palestinians in sealing a deal, if we want to hold on to Zionist Israel," Ben-Eliezer said.
21. Nobody knows the trust behind Barghouti
Groucho marx ,   From outer space   (04.06.08)
This Marwan is not the former Marwan. He was changed and now he is an undercover israeli agent that will infiltrate PA and Hamas. They call him Fuad's secret weapon to destroy palestinian (FSW; +AP) He is an bioengineering product of jews scientifics in a top secret place in Mecca. Wait&See
22. frkl the book of Ben Eliezer scare stories
zionist forever   (04.06.08)
Another scare story from a left wing politician who sees himself as potential primeministirial material. Its the 15 years of oslo that brought us nothing but missery lets stop pretending that there were never good times since 1967 its oslo thats the cause of all this .. the PEACE PLAN DESIGNED TO CREATE THE PALESTIAN STATE. We have created the palestians when we started to call the PLO the PA and told ourselves that they were a respectable political movement that no longer belived in terror and Arafat was a statesman now he called himself president. Bargouti isnt a miricle worker he is a murderer. We told ourselves that the palestian Prophet Arafat was a man who would work miricles and solve all our problems but he only made them worse. Right up to the end we told ourselves Arafat wanted peace & he could deliver but when he died we went back to calling him a terrorist rather than a president. Then we had Abbas the new miricle worker who will bring an end to all our problems but he hasnt and he wont. Bargouti is just another Abbas we want to belive he is the miricle cure but deep down we know he is a waste of space. If Ben Eliezer wants to be calling for palestian leadership he should be supporting the young blood who were not in the orginal PLO or Arafat deputies, they cant do any worse than what we are dealing with noe. Maybe the next generation will be better. If he is so concerned about giving weapons then why doesnt the man try and do something in the Knesset not in the media. The Israeli arab fith colum we dont need a peace process to deal with them we need new laws. Lets stop trying to be politicily correct & turn a blind eye when they raise a Hamas flag or we let the arab politicians say Israel has no right to exist because we want the arabs to feel wanted so we treat them special. Lets start making tough laws and enforcing them. The claims about us becoming a binational state if we dont release Bargouti and do a deal with palestians is just a scare story just because we dont have peace with a group or a country doesnt mean the status of israel will change. if he really believes that Kadima is going to survive then the man is an idiot if he thinks after all this the public is going to stick with Kadima. The saddest part about all of this is that with Olmert, Livni, Barak & Peres with Condi behind the scenes Bargouti is probably going to be out by August / September this year while Bush & Olmert are still here to say they are releasing a man who will save the peace process.
23. I'm just trying to understand the difference
REality Check ,   BaGolan   (04.06.08)
Between Labour, Meretz, hamas, and hezbullah?
24. Do Arabs want peace ?
Dora Ziv ,   Haifa   (04.06.08)
"All of Israel is Palestine" - Denying Israel’s Right to Exist and Anticipating its Destruction The foundation of Palestinian ideology is the denial of Israel’s right to exist. Jewish history is rewritten and Jewish historical presence in the Land of Israel in erased. All the agreements with Israel are said to be temporary. Palestinian Authority Television regularly broadcasts songs, dance, sermons and video clips encouraging Palestinians to anticipate, visualize, and hope for Israel’s destruction and replacement by a future "Palestine" "from the River to the Sea." Statements made in English by Palestinian spokespeople regarding the desire to live 'side-by-side' with Israel are frequently contradicted in Arabic-language statements and opinions given in the various Palestinian media. The dual nature of these messages are significant, as they are preparing Palestinians for ongoing conflict and not for peaceful resolution. Thus, any peace agreements signed in the future by Palestinians will be seen as a betrayal of the messages they've been taught for over a decade. Preparing people for peace now will help create peace now and in the future. Preparing people for ongoing conflict will destroy any chance of peace for the foreseeable future. As to historical facts : http://tinyurl.com/4chl55
25. WINOGRAD!
(04.06.08)
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