like Rabbi Ariel who will make Israel a TRUE JEWISH STATE and a LIGHT UNTO NATIONS!

Would that be the set of Morals that Mr Benizri and his convictred criminal friends in Shas are so keen to promote? Dont make me laugh ! Israel is a democratic state and not a state run according to jewish law. You will never force religious law on us which is based on a primative superstition.

It means NOTHING! stick it where the sun doesn't shine. Israel is a jewish secular state so take your twisted nonsense and go sell someplace else.

You need to distinguish between Torah morals and those who have a beard, but fail to uphold it and give religion a bad name. A big difference,and you cannot tar a whole movement or group because of the bad behaviour of a few. Thats like me saying all seculars are corrupt because of Olmart, Wizeman, Sharon, etc

While Olmert's predicament is unpleasant and the suspicions against him of bribery and corruption are growing, he is still innocent until proved guilty from a legal standpoint. Many right wing rabbis are bastions of bigotry and racism and some are not averse to accepting money under the table. They are certainly not qualified to pass judgement on the PM. Many of them are also not as clean as driven snow when it comes to wheeling and dealing. Rabbis living in glass houses should not throw stones.

Simon I cannot help myself but notice all of your hatred and annymosity toward judaism our national religion and identity. You seem to continue to mock our nation and our value system. It all stems from absolute ignorance and arrogance which prevents you from learning about judaism before you spit forth your venom. If you were to learn about our religion you would see that we the jews have had the highest moral system which is the most balanced and perfect way of life for the last few thousand years. Of course this does not mean that everyone can live up to the standards in full but the fact is that G-d gave us the system that life was created for. Since you dont know much about the torah and its wisdom you make light of it and the rabbis who live by the torah. If you do not study you are also held responsible and you cannot then claim ignorance. Although you may be ignorant it is not an excuse. Until then you are setting yourself up to be one of the enemies of our nation and you are not on our side at all even if you live in Israel and are Jewish. Unfortunately our biggest enemies are always other Jews. Watch out ...

"primitive superstition"... are all your views based on wat you read in the newspapers. Einstein would be so proud of you - a true thinker! It's ok, 20 years time the only folk living here will be the arabs and religious Jews...I see all the chilunim I work with only have 1 thing on their mind - improve english and get to american...true Jewish values.

that G-d gave Israel to the Jews, what right do you and your secular friends have to claim it's yours and to fight for it with the Arabs? You should go settle in Uganda like your mentor Hertzel wanted, where you’d live peacefully and everybody will be happy. And what do you have with the Kotel and other holy places if you claim it’s “primitive superstition”? G-d did not want us Jews to be like other nations. He wants MORE from us because we’re on a higher level (spiritually). (And that’s why it’s not so easy for goyim to get into this nation. One has to prove they’re serious about it.) Yisrael kedoshim heim - The Jews are a holy nation and must act accordingly. G-d does not care if this country is democratic (which it’s not) nor communist (which it is) or socialist, as long as the Jews adhere to all the laws of the Torah. Regarding BenIzri and Deri; they were indicted for a small crime of a bit bribery which was by far less than Olmert’s many corruptions.

If you are chrisitan or Muslim, just keep your mouth closed on matters far above your ability to understand. If you are Jewish, keep cool, no one will force you to make mitzvoth or be moral, YOU decide, you have the choice, but at the end you will loose the game against G.d A man with a kippa going against halakha cannot be called religious...thats for sure... the problem with some non observant jews is that they often think that a man (could be a total secular) with black and white clothes is called a religious !!!!!

Ill keep it simple so that you will understand. Gee im shacking in my crocks from your threat. Although i do find it amusing how you presume i have no knowledge of Judism! FYI i am ex religious, yes ive seen past the myths the fairy tales and all the superstion, who knows even one day you migh open your eyes and see that all the hatred and violence in the world today stems from religion.

Well apparently the judge in the Benizri case called it the biggest case of fraud in the history of Israel. Benizri received hundreds of thousands of shekels in money and services from contractor Moshe Sela over a 10 year period. While he was standing on his soap box with a black kipper telling us all how to behave. So i dont think we will call it a a bit of bribery as you so would like us to believe. As for Deri and the other 6 convicted criminals well now theres an idea for a book!

Seriously people, do you have any idea how creepy you all allow yourselves to sound? (apart from the seculars here). Jews and Arabs will live together in Israel, some will be secular and some religious. The way you religious Jews prattle on about the state becoming a religious one is very scary, reminds me of the Gaza Strip and Iran. You are fundamentally empty people that have to look to a book for the day to day running of your lives. No state can be run like that. Besides, if all the seculars left, the state would go bankrupt or are you relying on the religious lot to support it? HA HA HA HA H HA HA HA HA - Nah! I thought not. The spongers would continue to soak up every last shekel without putting anything back. And what about the army? all the seculars gone, the Haredim don't do military service - you wouldn't have much of a country. So GET REAL!!!!

If the religious establishment is going to take a stand against corruption, I will give them my full support, enen though I am devoutly secular.

HIS RIGHT TO CROSS EXAMINE TALINSKY IS HIS CASE>>ONLT TIME WILL REVEAL !! :-)~ THIS IS A JUDICIAL PROCESS - DUE PROCESS OF LAW ! THESE DAYS THE EDICT HAS NO IMPACT !

By now the rabbis are giving those halachic decrees on daily basis. Something, that started as few objective laws, which were meant for all times (they couldn't predict the future back then, otherwise the Halacha would be different today) independent from circumstances, is now just another stuid political tool. Halacha was meant as something with holyness, now it's not important any more. As Nitzsche said it, we killed God! Good night, guys!

The Benizri case was mostly dismissed and the amounts involved were trifling. It is also subject to appeal. If he is guilty, he deserves to be smacked for bring disgrace to Shas and religion after all the good efforts of Eli Yishai. The big and I mean big money is in the Wizeman,Sharon,Olmart and other secular scandals.

someone and the person does not listen or retreat...the physicians carry out the curse when the person goes to a doctor. Same thing is true in America. Physicians do a lot of dirty work because they can bury their mistakes without being prosecuted. Even dentists can! Were charges filed against the dentist who killed the grandson of the Mayor of Jerusalem? NO. When a physician buries a patient, he gets sympathy for all the trauma that caused him/her.

Or you will be disobeying, nu?

The origins of the word and the concept of Jewish has and continues to mislead the people. Nowhere in our literature are we referred to as a religion. Religion is a word foisted upon us by our enemies to convince us that we don't need a land and can be Jewish everywhere on the globe. We are a people, the children of Israel, living according to the constitution given on Mount Sinai. Yet, many of us do deny its validity and are happy with that decision. Too bad!!!

"Religion is a word foisted upon us by our enemies to convince us that we don't need a land and can be Jewish everywhere on the globe. " Actually, the Prophets told us that. The covenant with G-d goes everywhere.

Homosexuals date back to the bible AND don't forget that god created us in his own image. Maybe that's why you are so scared. You could be an in the closet lesbian. Why aren't you mad at God for creating children who are born with horrific disabilities? You are so sad and pathetic - you should keep quiet now.

Lee do you really think i believe such rubbish. God prohibits homosexuality? How about people driving on Shabat and women not covering their hair will you be attacking them to or do you just prefer to concentrate on homophobia, Wonder where that came from hay Lee? You really make me laugh. DO i live my life according to the Torah? News flash Buddy No i dont. Some might say God made man in his own image so God made me gay, so prehaps you are saying God is Gay. BTW we really need you here in Israel , when are you making aliah ?