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Palestinian industry of lies
Danny Seaman
Published: 29.05.08, 17:46
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1. Palestinian propaganda
Arthur Bernstein ,   Boca Raton, FL USA   (05.29.08)
More than one year ago I strongly recommended to the Israeli Foreign Ministry that they do the following: Set up live webcams (with sound) along the Gaza border and in Sderot which can be streamed live on the internet. This would show the constant rocket and mortar fire directed at Israel. We live in a media-centric world and, quite unfortunately, Israeli leaders are deficient in utilizing these resources.
2. Now the penny drops?
David ,   Karmiel, Israel   (05.29.08)
So what's new. We have known this for years. We know that the Arab propaganda machine even influenced FOXNEWS. We all know that when they reported on the "Muslim riots in Paris" a 30 second phone call from Prince Al Walid bin Talal of Saudia Arabia whose organization has major shareholdings in Citibank, AOL, Apple Inc., Worldcom, Motorola, News Corporation and others, to Rupert Murdoch, head of News Corp, changed the headline to "Poverty riots in Paris". The only answer to this is for us to establish a better propaganda machine than the Prince's one. The opening move must be the establishment of a TV Channel in English and French running 24 hours day. When something happens to the poor Palestinians, the whole world sees it from their side within seconds. Israel's point of view is limited to five minutes on IBA Channel 3 and the news in Hebrew. Our TV Channels do not interrupt their programming until the sky falls down! The tragedy is that we have the full infrastructure for this and we don't use it. It ishe same IBA Channel 3 which probably has a viewer ship of maybe 3! it is a satellite TV channel that the whole world can see! We are we going to wake up that this is no longer Golda time when Israel "doesn't have to explain". This 2008 where news is Olds after five minutes except when it come to Israel bashing!
3. Good article More of the Fakestinian lies should be revealed
Scott ,   NY, USA   (05.29.08)
4. clear thinking with good ideas!!!
ecr   (05.29.08)
Perhaps this same idea could be applied in our backyard, vis-a-vis secular/religious reporting or bashing.
5. Really?
Shimon ,   Cincinnati, USA   (05.29.08)
The Arab manipulation of the media started quite some time ago. I seem to remember their post 1967 whining, although it probably started before that. After all, they were the students of the Nazis including Josef Gobbels. Nice to see at least one Israeli has awaked to notice the phenomenon. Finally.
6. SUE THEM - THAT WILL KILL IT ON THE SPOT
David ,   London   (05.29.08)
7. #1 and #2, excellent ideas, they are needed!
Johnny ,   Stockholm Sweden   (05.29.08)
Implementing both of your ideas would serioulsy change the situation when it comes to media fabrication in favour of the palestinian terror lovers. Its really sad the Israeli government hasn't implemented them yet. It would be worth more than 1000000 dead terrorists.
8. The State of Israel and the IDF must not be afraid
Adam ,   UK   (05.29.08)
to sue for libel if a newspaper or television station gets their facts wrong. The legal system in Britain is ideal for this, since libel law places the burden of proof on the defendant to prove that an allegation is true. Given the flimsy reporting standards employed by the likes of the Guardian and the BBC it ought to be a push-over.
9. Equip military units with cameras
Gee ,   Zikron Yaakov   (05.29.08)
So that the soldiers can film the actions of the Arabs and Israeli reactions. Especially when the cowards hide behind women and children while shooting at Israeli troops. Then we can instantly counter Pallywood productions
10. Tutu Carter and Haniyeh
Arie ,   BaGolan   (05.29.08)
Make Goebbles proud!
11. Now you're talking buster
alan ,   alaska's waters   (05.29.08)
This is a great, well reasoned piece. The media war against Israel is based on many factors including turning a blind eye to questionable sources or not checking facts or accepting as true anything the Pallywood machine throws out. Some journalist honor access to the PA territory,so they can cash in on articles, far more than they seek the truth. A sad but salient feature of this media war. Many here in America have watched puzzled as Israel failed to wage an effective media relations. This seemed to end with Mr Regev's appointment and certainly the writer of this piece shows great comptence. Kolhakavod
12. I was IDF at Netzarim
David Benjamin ,   USA   (05.29.08)
I was in IDF at Netzarim. i witness killing of Al-dura. that why i left Israel. Jews live free in US with out having to killing people everyday.
13. The entire myth of 'Palestinian' is an Arab invention.
Gee ,   Zikron Yaakov   (05.29.08)
I find the fact that Arabic doesn't even have the letter 'P'. So how can they be something that can't even be written in their own langauge? The KGB and Arafat invented the entire 'Palestinian' movement in 1964. Everything they say and write is a lie, which the primary lie is that they even are a people.
14. come on come on
(05.29.08)
If you cal it Paliwood still it's nothing beside the Israeli propaganda , you are useing Hollywood it self for your interest , Show me which American movie showed the Israeli massacers against the Palistinians or the treatment they get on your check points or about how you stolen this land and throwed it's people out or killed them even Spielberg he has to work for your account from time to time and his last work he made for you was Muenich , but they show only the suicide bombers and kidnaping airoplais like you are inocents with baby faces doing nothing wrong , we didn't see any movie shows Sabra and Shatila massacer or dair Yasin , or kana 1 and 2 , or baldat el sheikh , not even the bombing of the king david hotel wich your terrorist organisation Irgun and it's master mind Menachem Bigin did it , each time you are under international presure we find new film to show the what the Nazi did to you and you start this old brocken disck to shut the mouth of the world not to attack you ... come on guys those poor Palistinians are nothing beside your huge propaganda machines supported be your rich Zionists Loby in America and in France ... oh God ... what a people .
15. in hard time can not say only the truth
tantan ,   .....   (05.29.08)
journalists can do propoganda but not in hard and diffecult time and events .. and what about the human rights men they are not arabs nor journalists nor anti israel .sometimes easy to lie but theeasiestistotellthe truth
16. So where is Israel's "rapid response" team?
Raymond in DC ,   Washington, DC USA   (05.29.08)
During the 1992 US presidential campaign, the Clinton team assembled what came to be known as a "rapid response" team that was tasked with quickly responding to allegations from the opposition. Today, any campaign worthy of the name has such a group. Where is Israel's response team? A few people in the PMO without the skills and motivation to do the job won't cut it. You need photo analysts, intelligence and military people who know what's going on, and can express themselves fluently in the media's language. During the Lebanon clashes, it was disheartening to hear the IDF apologize first and investigate later. In the meantime, it took internet bloggers little time to demonstrate that claims of attacks on ambulances, chemical bombs, and massacres were demonstrably false, that many video reports were staged, etc. Israel, as usual, was AWOL. Karsenty, in disputing the al-Dura libel, couldn't even get an Israeli representative in court to support his allegations. That's a clear dereliction of responsibility. I'd add that, in disputing such fraudulent reporting, Israel name names - the reporters and those they represent. Once they've been shown to be liars their credibility will be worthless.
17. Why are so many lies being reported?
Sigfried S. Kuhn ,   Aberdeen   (05.29.08)
From the phony Reuters pictures that were doctored to show more smoke from Lebanon to the lies about Jenin, Palestinian reports have been shown to be outright lies or gross exaggerations. Over and over, Palestinian reports of atrocities have been shown to be wildly exaggerated or just outright lies. Thus, the question is why the media, including "respected" organizations such as the BBC and the NY Times, continues to report such stories without checking on whether the stories are accurate. You would think that fair-minded people with above average intelligence would learn from past experiences. Yet they seem to revel in reporting untrue stories that would make Israel look bad and ignore past false propaganda emanating from Palestinian sources. Even when they are caught reporting false and inaccurate stories by media wathdog organizations such as CAMERA and Honest Reporting, the news organizations never bother to attack the facts behind the criticism. Instead, they attack the messengers as biased towards Israel. There seems to be several possibilities for why the media continues to repeat this unethical and deceitful behavior. First, the state of journalism is at a low point . Gone are the days of dignified, ethical, and fair-minded reporters like Edward R. Murrow to be replaced by people of prejudice who report their views as the truth. These unjounalists feel no compunction about printing outright lies and refuse to report facts that would contradict their opinion. In other words, they have an agenda and believe that the "justness" of their cause allows for lying and ommission of pertinent facts. Some of these people are outright antisemites. Others, like the infamous CNN producers who admitted to stretching the truth in order to maintain access. With so much oil money around, it does not take a conspiracy nut to conclude that some of the media is paid to print Palestinian propaganda. This lack of journalistic integrity and professionalism is not without damage. Besides making so many people mistrustful of the media, the constant false and negative reports about Israel have made people formerly sypathetic to Israel become hostile. It also justifies the prejudice of many antisemites that they are right about the Jews---just like nazi propaganda created new antisemites and strengthened the already present antisemitism in others.
18. simple, sound, and necessary
Steve   (05.29.08)
A group of professional "debunkers" is an idea long overdue. This has been recognized by many readers for quite some time. We can meet here next year to discuss this again for this government is incapable of anything but tongue tied apologies to fabricated incidents.
19. "Danny" Seaman
Andras Bereny ,   Kfar Tapuah, Ephraim   (05.29.08)
"Danny" Seaman, your office, the Government Press Office, for which we pay throug taxes, didn't and doesn't lift a finger to outlaw enemy agent press personale in this country. To the best of my knoledge you even protect France 2 "journalists" and provide them with a licence to lie. You are as guilty as the liars themselves as you cover up for them today as you covered up for them in the past years. Your place in hell is reserved.
20. Stupid IDF "spokespeople" are quick to admit any Pal ruses
Alan ,   SA   (05.29.08)
21. El Dura
Bernie Schecter ,   J-M   (05.29.08)
You want professionals to first apologize and then try and find a fix? This has been the Government's way for the last ten years. By the way-I was one of the "others"
22. But then everybody knows the wolf, wolf, wolf story...
Inyaki Bilbao ,   Bilbao Basque   (05.29.08)
23. START WITH THE BBC
Dan ,   Israel   (05.29.08)
News organisations like the BBC are so pro palastinian and anti Israel that even the Palastinians are amazed. The time has come to cut this Arab propaganda off at its source and ban BBC reporters from Israel.
24. have we forgotton we're (Jews)the 1st to use these tactics?!
Leftist Jerusalemite   (05.29.08)
25. #12 david benjamin
(05.30.08)
my name is ayal nisan and i was a soldier on top of the lookout on the israeli side during this fake palestinian story. no israeli shot nor murdered al durah. it was an impossibility of the angle. also, i do not remember ANYONE BY THE NAME OF DAVID BENJAMIN IN MY TROOPS, AND I WAS A SGAN ALOUF AT THAT TIME. you, mr. benjamin, are a liar.....maybe a palestinian disguised as a jew/israeli? enough said. david benjamin never existed in my troops. not during, before or after this incidence. since i commanded this troop, i should know the names in my unit. shame on you, whoever you are.
26. prosecute these propogandists for incitement to
avrom ,   bet shemesh   (05.29.08)
violence and genocide against the Jewish people they lend support to Hamas WHO ARE COMMITTED TO GENOCIDE OF THE jEWS Remind these Lord Haw Haws that victors justice applies and since Right is might They will all be hanged for war crimes
27. # 14 Are you joking?
Thomas   (05.30.08)
You want to see a film based on the Sabra and Shatilla massacre? Fine, by me. But let's see the whole story. The PLO in Lebanon which had been terrorizing northern Israeli, was getting beaten up by the IDF so the PLO took out its anger on the Lebanese Christians, bombing their social halls and such. So one day, some Phalangist go into a PLO camp and shoot up alot of people in vengence. Perfect. I love a good revenge story. Doesn't everybody? King David Hotel? The British military base that was targeted because the British made it illegal for Jews to own arms while permitting the Arabs to do so? Not to mention occupying a country that the UN recognized as an independent nation. Sorry but most countries don't get the British to leave simply by asking them. So I'd buy a ticket for that movie too, as long as its portayed truefully. By the way, the Israelis complained about Munich for its portayl of history. The only Arab argument against Munich was that it made the terrorists look as if they ever had doubts. Wow! That's a terrible bias. Keep crying Islamaphobia and racism pal, Im just starting to care. French Israel lobby - you're too much!
28. # 12 Can I Buy a Bridge From You
(05.30.08)
because I truly believe you're an Israeli who witnessed the IDF kill this kid in spite of the fact that's been proven to have been a hoax.
29. #24 - Leftist J-mite, Proof?
Joe ,   Ramat Gan   (05.30.08)
Do you have proof we Jews are the first to use these tactics?
30. #12
Michael ,   Ra'anana, Israel   (05.30.08)
If this is true, why didn't you contact France 2 to testify at their trial and vindicate them? The fact that you didn't do so makes me suspect that you're lying and using it as a "noble" excuse to become a "yored"... your inaction during the France 2 libel trial belies your words.
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