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IDF troops clash with gunmen in Gaza, three Palestinians killed
Hanan Greenberg
Published: 12.06.08, 09:36
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1. Why only 3 whacky Ali?
Rami ,   London   (06.12.08)
Why not 3,333,333 ?
2. in the hebrew version it say three terrorists
stop manipulation   (06.12.08)
in any case they were members of Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades. So should write IDF kill three members of Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades and not IDF kill three Palestinians. The fact that they were members of Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades and not opinion.
3. if the Palestinians are gunmen then
(06.12.08)
why do you say it only inside the article. why not in the title of the article? why mislead the people?
4. counterterrorism efforts?
observer   (06.12.08)
do you call planting an explosive device on the Gaza's side of the border terrorism? and you call this trespassing - so called counterterrorism effort- self-defense?
5. To 4 heres some sorely needed logic
Dude   (06.12.08)
"do you call planting an explosive device on the Gaza's side of the border terrorism?" 1. Lets assume that they aren't going to use said explosive to blow up part of the fence so that they can cross over into Israel. This is terrorism because they are trying to attack anyone who comes near the fence. If an Israeli were to drive next to the fence and they blow it up to attack that person (regardless of whether they are military or civilian) this is illegal and the entire of purpose of this. You are trying to be disingenuous by saying "oh they're just planting explosives on there side of the fence" when in reality its more like their planting them to attack any Israeli who might haplessly come near the fence, like a farmer tending to his crops... 2. It is terrorism to use it to blow a hole in the fence and then try to crossover and kill children in a kindergarten or whatever sadistic set of targets they (and probably you as well) have in mind. "and you call this trespassing - so called counterterrorism effort- self-defense?" See this is called pre-emptive work. So instead of having a hostage situation where a Hamas member blows up part a fence in an ambush and then runs over to the nearest Israeli village and tries to hold hostage a kindergarten, we stop him before he does that. And by the way, what need is there for someone to be walking around with a bomb towards Israel, unless they are planning to use it against Israelis? Please explain any other possible reasons?
6. I can always depend on YNET to keep a running tab on how
Al   (06.12.08)
many ragheads bit the dust. Way to go YNET....The shamatta on the Med.
7. #6 lashon hora
(06.12.08)
8. A different solution - Well-being instead politics.
Robert Bernier ,   Tel Aviv   (06.12.08)
Instead of counting the daily dead and injured Arab as a result of the terrorist war they declared on Israel, it would be wiser for the Arabs to abandon politics and terrorism, and search for a better future for themselves and their children, to choose well-being instead of politics and understand that a “Palestinian state” is not the solution to their misery. Huge amounts have already been paid by the international community in order to help these people but the only beneficiary were the Arab politiciens. Even if there will be a “Palestinian state” the conditions of the population will not improve. The solution to their misery is elsewere : they should think about emigrating, discretely, to other Arab countries before it is too late, (most of these countries are not very populated and can easily integrate them). That is the real solution as explained at : http://tinyurl.com/2bbl4q
9. by your logic, the IDF has to be disarmed,
observer   (06.12.08)
and the Palestinian pre-emptive work encouraged. According to B'Tselem , from 27 February to the afternoon of 3 March, the IDF killed 54 kids. How many Israeli kids killed since 2005?, the answer is Zero kids.
10. To 9 Sloganeeing is a signal of the shallowness of a debate!
Dude   (06.12.08)
"by your logic, the IDF has to be disarmed," How is this my logic? PLEASE EXPLAIN. You might as well have written, "I know what you are, but what am I" (and to pre-emptively answer a terrorists) "and the Palestinian pre-emptive work encouraged." What pre-emptive work? Launching 60 mortars at innocent families in the south of Israel? What are you trying to pre-empt? Please TELL ME! You lack a morality, justice, and an argument, so you pathetically try to take a descriptive term and turn into a colloquial slogan to obfuscate the fact, that you have no way to justify a Hamas member trying to plant bombs to kill Israeli's passing by Gaza. Nothing so you simply divert and try to start a new fire by simply setting another attack without basis of introduction.... "According to B'Tselem " Uh-huh, this organization has caught LYING numerous times and is quite well known to be funded by anti-Israeli EU groups and headed by people with SEVERE BIASES. This is not the gospel, just some highly paid propagandist, harade as an 'idealists'. ", from 27 February to the afternoon of 3 March, the IDF killed 54 kids. " What were there names? Were there cases of similar names such as Muhammed Ahmed and Mohemmed Amed? how old were they? Are they t17 turning 18 tomorrow or just born the day before? Where were they? Were they neighbors of Hamas members or were Hamas members shooting missiles next to there houses? What the sex of each one? Who conferred this information to B'tselem? Did they double check? And the list of questions goes on and on. Just because you have a randomly generated number does not make it true and does NOT give it validity. Also please don't forget by the 4th geneva conventions that whenever Hamas operates in a civilian area, THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THOSE CIVILIANS. Not the IDF. "How many Israeli kids killed since 2005?, the answer is Zero kids." Where did you get this statistic? Secondly I guess those missiles fired today (and everyday for that matter) since 2005 and before don't count as attempted murder. They're just missiles, it doesn't matter that they almost hit a kindergarten on numerous occasions. And that just by pure luck of G-D there weren't easily over 50 in a single day. Please take your indignant self-righteousness and shove it.
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