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Maori tribes to reinforce Jewish people?
Itamar Eichner
Published: 29.06.08, 08:02
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31. Hi Steve
David Lev (trevor) ,   Now in Israel   (06.30.08)
How you doin'? Remember me from Manukau Road? I now live in Shilo, so look me up next visit to Israel. There aren't that many Kiwis in Shilo!
32. To #28
M. Hartley ,   Atlanta, US   (06.30.08)
Although there's no love lost for any religion on my part, let's do be fair. Catholics don't exactly have a monopoly on criminality, child abuse included. Some religions simply incorporate it into their canons, some keep such a tight lid on their faithful, they don't dare complain, and some people, regardless of their religion, are just disgusting and/or sick human beings. As for good ol' #2, well, there has to be a reason even for him. It probably falls into the category of "God's nature is unknown and unknowable." Some people , without rhyme or reason, simply are. Of course and depending who looks at us, that can be said of just about everybody. Welcome to humanity!
33. the pot's record is pretty black
leo solomon   (06.30.08)
iI's interesting that New Zealand's leaders are so hyper critical of Israel's treatment of the Arabs in Israel's midst ,whose population has grown tenfold in sixty years ,when New Zealand's own indigenous Moari population has ,as a result of the policies of the governing whites , been depleted to near extinction.
34. to #24
sarah ,   longwood   (06.30.08)
kia kaha steve. guess your soundbite to Israeli TV 8 years ago was particularly memorable!
35. To 2 Yaakov Sullivan
Raphael Cordovero ,   Montreal, Canada   (06.30.08)
I was born Irish Catholic... So what and who cares? Your message reads like MAYDAY. Who is threatening you? When have Jews forced anybody to become Jewish? When was there a Jewish Holy Inquisition by which thousands of Catholics were sadistically tortured, raped and burnt alive? When dit a rabbi snatch a catholic baby from his parents to have him raised as a Jew? (cf. your holy pope Pius IX the kidnapper and the Mortara case?), When was there a Jewish drunken mob to kill and set fire on Catholic villages on Jewish Easter, etc. etc. Raphael Cordovero da Spinoza
36. TO 2 YAAKOV SULLIVAN
MENDOZA ,   ANJOU, CANADA   (06.30.08)
GOOD FOR YOU. SULLIVAN I WAS BORN JEWISH, I HAVE NOT REALLY PRACTICED MY RELIGION SINCE THE DAY OF MY CIRCUMCISION, MY WIFE IS NOT JEWISH , BUT WHEN I DIE, I HOPE THAT I WIILL BE ABLE TO SAY : ANI B'NAI ISRAEL, i AM A CHILD OF iSRAEL
37. Maoris embracing Judaism
Pat ,   Colorado Springs/ US   (07.01.08)
This is a disturbing thought. I would think that the Maoris would identify more with the Palestinians since both have experienced or are experiencing the brutality of illegal Occupations and human rights violations.
38. #3
ilyse ,   us/israel   (07.01.08)
1. Kabbalah is very jewish. 2. Christians are afraid of the teachings of Kabbalah. 3.Reincarnation - there is a prayer that jews say that asks g-d to forgive us in this life time and our last life time. 3.Rabbi Shimon Bar Yochai wrote the Zohar in the 13th century. Moses De Leon published it in the 13th century. I DO NOT THINK EITHER ONE OF THEM ARE CHRISTIANS. It is very important that people study TORAH before they get into Kabbalah, however you must be a religous person who only sees what is back and white. OPEN your mind to the grey area......... Before you put down The great Teaching of KABBALAH AND ALL THE GREAT RABBI'S - get out ot your narrow minded box and STUDY other things besides what your RABBI tell you to study. Check out KOSHERTORAH.COM if you dare...................Let the right Kabbalah teachings open your mind and your heart.
39. To Steve Daniels from #31
(07.01.08)
Steve, you may better remember me through my recruitment & immigration business in Auckland. You worked for me for a while...Bannister?
40. To #36 :-)
M. Hartley ,   Atlanta, US   (07.01.08)
My ancestry is so mixed up, there's no way I'd restrict myself to any particular country or tribe. When I die, I'll tell God, "You brought Your prodigal daughter home. Now where's the party?"
41. kabbalah--least Jewish of holy books
Bill ,   Chicago, USA   (07.01.08)
Our traditional Judaism is viewed through the prism of Maimonides introduction of Aristotelian logic into Judaism. The mysticism implicit in Kabbalah attracts a certain type of person and fills certain needs . Just as Sufi mysticism filled the needs of some Muslims, and Christian mysticism fills the needs of certain types of Christians.Because you and I disagree with it doesn't mean Kabbala is not really Jewish.
42. #37
Steve Daniels ,   Auckland New Zealand   (07.01.08)
Actually for Maori to identify with the Palestinians is to identify with the oppressors for the very fact that the Palestinians are not the indigenous peoples of Israel. The term 'Palestinian' is a relatively new nationalistic term not based on indigenous but on political nostalgia i.e. they are named after the extinct biblical peoples the 'Philistines'. For Maori to identify with this is to identify with the Narnia stories and other pieces of fiction.
43. #31 #39
Steve Daniels ,   Auckland New Zealand   (07.01.08)
Trevor, Oy Vavoy? It's almost 20 years now. How are you, who is David Lev, how did you end up in Israel, when did you leave NZ, what are you doing in Israel, how's Sue, how's your son Joshua? Ok just a few questions, e-mail me and catch up, I was just over there, if I'd know I would've swung by. My daughter is so grown up now and in her last year in High School. Diana has just returned from there and you may have heard that Julian was murdered in Kenya on Kol Nidrei last year. Beth Shalom has grown and has the largest Cheder in Australasia now. I'm the Vice President, go figure? Plus I sit on a number of organisations both within the Jewish Community, Maori Community and the General Community. Lorraine is now a very successfull lawyer with her own practice and is also on the Board, in fact she's immediate past President, who would've thought ? We're still good mates. Anyway, Trev e-mail me. Shalom-nui Steve
44. Judaism
Tom ,   Auckland New Zealand   (04.19.09)
Shalom Aleichem/Aleichen.just wondering if this congregation has rabbi's or even if it fits in with the Messianic believers?
45. Maori people
Lori ,   NY, USA   (11.04.09)
I suppose it's probable quite a few are descendents from intermarriage. I'm, however, very curious about the possibility that they could be another "lost tribe" or have they all been accounted for in other parts of tfe world. I would love to correspond with someone about this. If interested email me at austen1789@yahoo.com.
46. Maoris
Ani ,   London UK   (07.30.10)
People have guessed the length of time Maoris occupied Aotearoa NZ. Maori had been travelling backwards & forwards to other parts of Polynesia long before Europeans arrived in the Pacific area. And the Maori language is very closely related to all the other Polynesian languages which includes Hawaiian. I wonder where that person got his incorrect info from
47. Being a Jew
Janniot Schneider ,   Edingen Germany   (07.02.11)
The Maori claim at the time of Ramsis II Moses lead his people of the sea.. It is believed the Maori sailed from Egypt to New Zealand. In an exploratory research.. So are one of our legends
48. Maori are Israelites.
R   (01.03.19)
MAORI came from CHILE before going to NZ.
We are Israelites.
We are from Tribe of NAPHTALI.
WE ARE JEWS.
PRAISES TO THE MOST
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