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Livni isn’t innocent
Haim Misgav
Published: 28.07.08, 00:34
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1. great article
fad egypt   (07.28.08)
HAIM is correct why livni didnt attack sharon and joined him in kadima and he was corrupt sharon was called to resign before the coma because of a corruption scandal and she is attacking olmert now because she is the VP to replace him she is oppertunist why she stayed at the government during the war and made the cease fire or the surrender then attacked olmert and accused him of failing she is oppertunist she must go home with olmert barak mofaz and yishai the only one is BIBI at least he stayed in the sharon government while he was critic to his policy and was doing great job in finance ministry and trying to stop the pullout plan from the inside but when he failed to stop the plan he has resigned election now vote likud shalom
2. "Livni and honesty" is like "Mofaz and Honesty".....
EGW ,   vancouver canada   (07.28.08)
You want Livni to "be honest" which is what we are all entitled to. But, since she is a politician, you know this is an impossibility, all the more due to the way she's been sliding along for the past many years. So why don't YOU also "be honest". Don't write about thousands being "evacuated" from their homes, but rather that they will be "TORN" from their homes. Also, whilst I'm writing in, why do you persist in referring to "Palestinians" when you "know" there is no such people...and why don't you call them by their proper title ...:"local immigrant Arabs", or "local immigrant Arab squatters".
3. Misgav is right. Corruption comes in many forms.
Steve ,   US   (07.28.08)
Livni supports dangerous, even suicidal policies. Israel needs a strong leader; not another politician who, in addition to being corrupt, is weak. Livni proved her inabiltiy to lead during the second Lebanon war. She proved her corruption as a member of the Sharon government. Sharon sold out. Livni sold out.
4. haim's doing olmert work
alexi   (07.28.08)
Haim, nice try to do olmert's work at tarnishing Livni. Good try. olmert is scum and you are tarnished for supporting him. Livni does have weaknesses so far as you say in not telling Olmert to go to hell, likewise in not telling Gheit to go to hell, and in not resigning. But she is clean and she does have conviction. So far, she still under the ilusion of political horizons and has not been able to say no to rice, no more. So, we'll see. But Livni is clean, olmert is up to his neck in horse manure.
5. Livni is Israel's #2 Enemy
Dr. Dave ,   NYC   (07.28.08)
She is right behind Olmert as enemy & traitor. If Israelis don't recognize it they will get what they deserve for propping her up.
6. No one in politics is "innocent" entirely. How else could
Rivkah   (07.28.08)
their handlers control them? King David was first chosen by God to be King, then he was anointed by the Prophet Samuel, then years later he met with the elders of Israel to agree with their expectations after King Saul died. THEN David became King. David was not innocent after many battles. He had lied and pretended to be insane when he stayed with the Philistine king as a refuge, to survive. He drooled on his beard and acted stupid. But he was still suitable to be king.
7. Livni isn’t innocent?
Ariel ,   Europe   (07.28.08)
Well, this innocence question shell be put (if at all) to her first boyfriend, really. She's an ISRAELI POLITICIAN, for G-d's sake! Get real, people!
8. livni is not a saint
sas ,   israel   (07.28.08)
she did nothing as minister of justice she does nothing as number 1 to ohlmet - critizices him n remains in position......... all she knows is how to comb her hair. she has ruined the MFA by nominating some dumb ambassadors. she will be a DISASTER.
9. ANY UNTAINTED CANDIDATES,DR MISGAV?
ROLAND SEENER ,   LONDON ENGLAND   (07.28.08)
JUST CHANGE THE NAME FOR A FUTURE ARTICLE DR.MISGAV?
10. About Livni and the second lebanon war.
Bartley Kulp ,   Safed, Israel   (07.28.08)
Livni claimed to the Winograd commitee that she did not realize that everybody in the war room was planning a generaly wider conflict and invasion of Lebanon when she agreed to vote for the attack. Well gee. This is a great answer in explaining her actions on what must have been the most important day of her career as a cabinet member. Either she is lying or she is conceding that at a crucial moment of her job she was not on the same page as everybody else. This is kind of like the excuse at school where one claims that their dog ate their homework. She cannot be a prime minister in this country.
11. Livni's Corruption
Df ,   Beer Sheva   (07.28.08)
What Dr. Misgav brings us is a new concept in politcs: Ideology and political actions for what someone believes is for the good of the country is in the same league as the corruption that Olmert is being accused of. Your equating the two denigrates the concept of the rule of law. You as a law lecturer more than others should know the difference between the two. Apparently your political beliefs have overtaken common sense.
12. "There are also different kinds of corruption" ..
redmike ,   Tel Aviv   (07.28.08)
and the kind perpetrated by Olmert and Hirchson are the worst. You can get no lower than stealing from charities. It is not clear whether this article is just an attempt to tarnish Livni or to try and vindicate Olmert. The evacuation and the so called 2nd Lebanon war were primarily both Olmert's doing! Mike
13. livne
sad ,   israel   (07.28.08)
GO HOME BEFORE ALL THE FLITH COMES OUT ABOUT YOU. WHAT WOULD YOUR DAD SAY???????HE WOULD BE EMBARRASSED.
14. Livnis isn't innocent ..and never was
I.Kemp ,   Nahariya Isr   (07.28.08)
Spot on ! She is just another ambitious out- for- herself politician.
15. Livnat
zznhl   (07.28.08)
Most Israeli ppoliticians appear to be "corrupt" in some way or another. In Israeli society its even harder for a women to attain such great hieghts, so I would sensibly conclude that Livnat is at least as "corrupt" if not more.
16. Tzipi
Manny ,   Israel   (07.28.08)
Great article.
17. Here we go...
Talula ,   Israel   (07.28.08)
Haim Misgav got out the wrong side of the bed this morning. Tsipi Livni is our best bet - she's strong and smart and we need to give her a chance. This crumbling State of ours needs more women at the helm. GET OVER IT!
18. She's just another loser from Kadima ...
Terry ,   Eilat, Israel   (07.28.08)
The Kadima crooks are trying to foist her on us & only support her because she seems more "saleable" than the other losers from Kadima. They just want to avoid elections & keep their jobs. She's as inept & incompetent as the rest of them. Her "accomplishments" expressed numerically would be below zero. Can anyone even name an accomplishment? The "Queen of Surrender" as PM would be a new low in Israeli politics -
19. We need to try all members of the kadima/labor/
jason white ,   afula,israel   (07.28.08)
sh_ass gang. They sold us down the river to stay in power. They and their aides are guilty of the gaza ethnic cleansing of Jews. They are ready to give Judea and Shomron to the terrorist abb-ass. They will give up our Temple Mount. They are ready to give up the Golan. They are an evil group of traitors and we will be better off if we outlawed those three terror groups. livne is just a poodle for condi. She will do what the enemy U.S. state department wants.
20. you forgot the failure of the resolution which ended the 2nd
chanie ,   chashmonaim   (07.28.08)
21. livni is no saint
fad ,   israel   (07.28.08)
GOOD MORNING. NO ONE IN KADIMA is CLEAN...........anyone around ohlmert is corrupt one way or another.
22. NO CONVINCING ARGUMENTS.
Gideon   (07.28.08)
23. THE ONLY ALTERNATIVE TO 2-STATE IS 1 STATE WITH 80% ARABS.
Gideon   (07.28.08)
Stupid shmuck.
24. Sharp and true analisys. very refreshing
Norman   (07.28.08)
25. an honest non-PC lawyer
Rami ,   London   (07.28.08)
very rare, and refreshing. Livni is not only stupid, she is evil.
26. One mistake
Israel Israeli ,   Tel Aviv   (07.28.08)
Misgav is right that Livni is a corrupt failure, but he diminshes the significance of war. For most Israelis the war did not end when Israel pardoned Samir Kuntar in return for two corpses. There were 150 dead and a few thousand wounded. Is the war over for the orphans, widows and parents? Is the war over for previously healthy people without arms, legs or vision? Is the war over for people suffering from PTSD? The answer is that the war is over for corrupt politicians like Olmert, Livni and Barak who had no personal stake and for which war is just a political game you play between meeting Seinfeld and Abbas. The war is not over for real Israelis saddled with one of the most corrupt and morally bankrupt governments in history.
27. livne
fad ,   israel   (07.28.08)
she is worse than ohlmert. says what she likes and acts differently. her dad is turning n his grave, she only nows how to comb her hair. she has ruined the MFA. Look at the amb.she has appointed. some do not even speak hebrew,.............the one to budapest cannot speak a word of hungareian. How is she to work??????? disgusting!!!!!!! the one to Japan cannot even speak english??????? SIMPLY a DISGRACE, and the one to Hong Kong has no idea where he is landing or what to speak.
28. democracy
tom ,   toronto, canada   (07.28.08)
the purpose of an election is so that the people of the country can select a leader - to do so by newspaper editorial is just not democratic. let's have an election already!
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