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Conscientious objector to IDF service jailed
Yael Levy
Published: 20.08.08, 22:11
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31. Jail the ones that encourage this behavour
S Freedman ,   Jerusalem   (08.21.08)
Israel is awash with these people that are undermining the state,sedition is tolerated ONLY in Israel.You have Israeli's who are paid to write the nastiest garbage about the state.They write for media that are virulenty anti-semitic.You have teachers and proffessers,who poison their students minds.They are the ones who should be jailed.
32. #7 How are you Karim
S Freedman ,   Jerusalem   (08.21.08)
As a clown you could be very amusing, an Egyptian giving us a lecture about human norms.Egypt is a failed state the only thing that you guys can produce is more and more babies,that you are unable to feed.As to human rights do you actually know what it means,seeing as you never experienced it.Keep sucking on that hookah.
33. Forget prison send them to Yeshiva
rh ,   Modiin Israel   (08.21.08)
Really scare them
34. Future Meretz Soldier
Dr. Dave ,   NYC   (08.21.08)
35. karim#7 - I think your country has its own problems
yaron   (08.21.08)
karim#7 - I think your country has its own problems. Human rights? Women equality? democracy? you have none of that. Israel has its internal debates but your opinion is surely not welcome. Lets see if you are so brave to go and demonstrate against your own government.
36. For every 1 Leftist refuser, 1000 evacuation refusers
Jake   (08.21.08)
who refuse to participate in the evacuation of settlements in Judea and Samaria. In fact it was the refusers on the Left, like these buffoons, that CAUSED the phenomenon of refusers on the Right feeling emboldened to refuse to participate in settlement evacuations in the first place. The latter group does not only include Religious Zionists, but also non-Rightists, seculars, Kibbutzniks, and Druzim. So actually these Lefty Loonies are doing the anti-evacuation movement a big service. Way to go, Leftists!
37. Sharon sowed Gush Katif, this is the harvest.
Bunnie Meyer ,   Los Angeles, CA USA   (08.21.08)
38. Together at the bank...but alone in the tank?
mother from north   (08.21.08)
What about all the haredim that don't serve...can't exempt some and not others
39. To #7 How do you protest against your government?
jason white ,   afula,israel   (08.21.08)
For freedom of speech, an end to mubarak's dictatorship? Or what the government does to the Copts? Or all the money they spend on weapons and not fighting poverty? Clean up your own country before you talk about others!
40. the religious
popo   (08.21.08)
dont serive and we dont jail them .... oh sorry i forgot there praying for my soul in sheva because im not kosher to pray for my self and i should be graetful to them for bringing 10 and 15 kids in the world that i have to pay for from my taxes. lets get honest with other that is a concies decision and so is not serving in the army for concies belives but thay both would make lousey soliders any way , let them work in institutions to servie there country its called shroot lumie shouldnt only be for girls
41. With rights come responsibilities
Cameron ,   USA   (08.21.08)
You know the drill sargeants in boot camp are going to play particular "Holy Hell" with this lot. These kids are truly going to learn the meaning of "paying dues".
42. Thankfully There are Still Jews of Concience Like Udi Nir
Johan Odin ,   Oslo, Norway   (08.21.08)
Just when you thought that Israeli society had sunk to the lowest level possible, there are glimmers of hope from brave young men such as Udi Nir who are willing to face punishment rather than aid Israel in its immoral national obsession of brutalizing, oppressing and killing Palestinians in the name of Zionism. Thank you Udi for having the bravery to your sacrifice you own freedom in order help others live free. I assure you that your sacrifice will not be in vain, and I wish you all the best. .
43. Israel Could Use A Whole Lot More Like Udi Nir
Johan Odin ,   Olso, Norway   (08.21.08)
Just when you thought that Israeli society had sunk to the lowest level possible, there are glimmers of hope from brave young men such as Udi Nir who are willing to face punishment rather than aid Israel in its immoral national obsession of brutalizing, oppressing and killing Palestinians in the name of Zionism. Thank you Udi for having the bravery to your sacrifice you own freedom in order help others live free. I assure you that your sacrifice will not be in vain, and I wish you all the best
44. #25 Gee - You are Right, They Do Reflect their Upbrining
Johan Odin ,   Oslo, Norway   (08.21.08)
But unlike you, they were taught morals, ethics, humanity and the other basic tenets of a civilized society, something you obviously missed out on.
45. All my respect .......
Marlene N. ,   New York City   (08.21.08)
to this courageous young man with a conscience, and all who follow in his footsteps. It is no privilege or honor to serve in any army of occupation that serves as an oppressor. Surprising that Israel and its Jewish population has not learned that to date.
46. Nir is a pig.....plain and simple....
Andy ,   ramat hasharon   (08.21.08)
He should spend 4 years in jail.
47. DON'T JUST DISMISS WHAT THEY SAY
Aharon   (08.21.08)
The fact that they are draft dodgers is wrong. My own kids serve in the IDF and I fought in Israel's wars. But the fact that they are doing something wrong doesn't mean the point they are trying to make is wrong too. Israel's army is an occupying army since 1967, you can deny it and ignore it and scream "leftist" and "anti-semitism" all you want, but facts on the ground are facts: millions of Arabs live under military rule with no rights whatsoever. The fact that our neighbors may be barbarians doesn't mean we should be too - our neighbors also don't believe in democracy, maybe we should abolish democracy in Israel in order to fight them more effectively? After all you people seem happy enough to abolish human rights and our most basic principles of respect for human life.
48. Mirian you've got some nerve
Chaim   (08.21.08)
Go get the Haredim to enlist - and until you do, STAY OUT OF THE AFFAIRS OF O-U-R ARMY!
49. Better yet, send them to Iran to live.
w.bruton   (08.21.08)
Or Gaza. Let them have a choice.
50. Jail them for 3 years
Mordechai   (08.21.08)
Jail them for the entire time they would be in the military. They should not get any benefit for not doing their duty. Then ban them from any university or any government job for life.
51. #16
mark ,   ca   (08.21.08)
What a moron!
52. Question the IDF???
Lou ,   Deal, NJ   (08.21.08)
I served for 3 years in the IDF, and would do it all over again. While serving, I never heard hate of the Arabs, but I was taught to defend our homeland. During my combat service, I even saved the life of a Palestinian child who was hit by rocks that were meant for me. I ran and jumped on her to protect her and the rocks kept coming. Although the IDF won the last war in Lebanon without question, we were held back so not to hurt "innocent civilians" and the enemy views this as though they won the war "that they started". My prayers are that there not be a next time, however if there is, we should not hold back anything. The IDF travels the world to help many countries after natural disasters. Where is all of this talk of hate from the IDF. I only see the IDF as a role model of what military should be.
53. Draft evasion
JEFF WEINER ,   SAN DIEGO CA   (08.21.08)
Obviously these refuseniks are uneducated in the facts of life. I wonder whether any of these idiots realise where they, their friends, family and fellow refuseniks would be today if everyone believed as they do. And the answer is not in military detention for 6 or 21 days.
54. "The Army violates human rights"...how charming.
Rivkah   (08.21.08)
OF COURSE THE ARMY VIOLATES HUMAN RIGHTS...they have to kill people on command or be killed.
55. Weeds
Rachel ,   Israel   (08.21.08)
It is too bad that both here and abroad, the Jews' worst enemies are ultimately other Jews. These people take advantage of their democracy to attack and discredit it and they encourage and support the worst acts of oppression that Muslims perpetrate against their own and terror against Jews in Israel and abroad. These are nothing more than social misfits who need to be weeded out and shunned by our society.
56. Conscientious objectors or just plain cowards?
Talula ,   Israel   (08.21.08)
I think cowards is more like. Round them up, put them in prison for three years and when they are released - NO help of any sort from any government office - if they don't want to support and protect their country's survival, they should not be granted any money, in any way shape or form. Better still, let them all piss off to another country they don't deserve to be called Israeli.
57. Another sucker for Pal propaganda
JPS ,   Efrat   (08.21.08)
This guy says "If more and more people voice their objection to the occupation" What an ignorant moron. What an indictment against the school system for teaching trash. What an indictment of phony human rights "supporters". Israel and the Pals are involved in negotiations to create a 2-state solution. The IDF is involved in the aftermath of the 1967 war instigated by neighboring Arab states whose goal was to wipe Israel off the map and kill Udi Nir's parents and grandparents. Udi Nir shows his absolute ignorance of democracy, international law, politics and human rights by sounding like a poster-boy for Palestinian propagandists. Yea, maybe he should go sign up for the Pal armies and learn about human rights on the other side.
58. Leftist cowards!
JAyyy ,   Israel   (08.21.08)
59. Jewish self-haters are the allies of Arabs.
Robert Bernier   (08.21.08)
A part of the Israeli intelligentsia, left oriented, is no longer confident of the nation’s right to its own Jewish identity. This has created a dangerous vacuum. In Israeli universities, revisionist historians have told corrosive lies about their country’s history, portraying it as having been born in sin. In the schools, children have not been taught Jewish history and parrot Arab disinformation instead. Israeli left oriented intellectuals would rather self-flagellate their public and "admit" sins they never committed, and furnish intellectual rationalizations for the most convoluted arguments raised by their adversaries, rather than take up their country's defense even when its conduct is beyond reproach as explained at : http://xrl.us/bi5da
60. #16 & Nir: If it weren't for the IDF
5th generation ,   Israel   (08.21.08)
you wouldn't have a pot to piss in. Or a __ to do it with.
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