1. The Israeli education system is 2nd rate for several reasons
1) Chutzpah on part of the parents
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2) Chutzpah on part of the students
3)Chutzpah on part of the society who has a "its coming to me " attitude.
4)Lack of basic discipline and repect for authority.
5)Lack of moral fibre in a society that is in a downard spiral.
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2. Underpaid teachers should have no bearing
on a child's grade. One thing has nothing to do with the other. Besides, the decision to teach is made for the love of it, not to get rich. Teachers have been badly paid since time immemorial.
The teaching standards in some schools in this country is far below standard. It's THAT that needs to be addressed - teacher's salary and children's grade do not go hand in hand.
| Kim , |
Tel Aviv |
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3. education
Israeli education will still drop a long way as the modern trend is to provide the basic start only and allow a student after concluding military to realise the shortcoming in education thereby requireing a student to spend his time and money remeding to situation.For politician security is more important than education.and no future changes are imminant.
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4. #2 - Kim - you are badly mistaken....
48,000 NIS per year is obscene - and it DOES have to do with student scores - because you get what you pay for in education as in life. This is a crime. If you can't undersand this, then you obviously studied in an overcrowded classroom with an underpaid economics teacher. The love of teaching is an essential part of the profession - but nobody is going to work for NOTHING. 48k NIS is just about nothing.
| Andy , |
ramat hasharon |
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(09.09.08) |
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5. Good teachers
# 12 is wrong as a person who wants a decent living and respect will not enter teaching, a profession vital to the future of a nation. A person has a desire to earn a good living for his/her family. Teacher pay must increase to assure obtaining good and sufficient numbers into this important profession
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6. yuli tamir's pathetic excuse
This is about one of the most pathetic excuses I have had the misfortune of reading..... I would simply ask Yuli this, "if the lack of spending on Arabs resulted in a neccessary larger amount of spending on Hebrew schools then the Jewish kids grades should have made up for the Arab shortfall, no?"
The fact is that nearly all the OECD countries have a seperation of state and religion and do not run ethnically based school systems aiming for a meritocratic admissions (except America which is more of a zip code lottery). So if some religious people want to educate their kids in a soley religious fashion they have to pay for it themselves. All state funded schools therefore teach a curriculum that is geared to providing the economy and society with people of significant utility. Yuli's excuse is just a joke. "multitude of disciplines"........
| Pontius Pilate , |
Tel-Aviv |
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(09.09.08) |
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7. Bleak Picture of Israeli education
100% true, my kids have had more than their share of lousy teachers through out elementary school, from science teachers who thought that the Rubber handle on a screwdriver was so the screwdriver didn't get hot, to stating that there was no such thing as farengheit when it comes to temperature. Not to mention math teachers that can't add up points correctly on a test.
The quality of teachers here has nothing to do with class size, but low salaries and incompenatnt people going into the field!
| Millicent , |
Israel |
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(09.09.08) |
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8. Four sub systems ?
Take away those NOT following the State program . Let them pay for it if they want a "special" education . And you will have more money for educating future productive people .
| Charles , |
Petach Tikva |
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(09.09.08) |
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9. the numbers
With three children in the school system, from elementary to high school, the more accurate numbers are about 33 students per classroom. The number reported here has probably factored in to the mean the special ed classes which have a limit of 10 students.
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