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Abbas says hopes Olmert's statements 'deposit' for next government
Roee Nahmias
Published: 02.10.08, 00:15
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1. deposit on peace talks
alexi   (10.02.08)
the arrogant olmert screws israel by setting out his views which he cannot implement because he will likely go to jail-they were said to hurt israel and to handcuff livni with what abbas sees is a new marketr. Ths is the ultimate chutzpah. Let livni make or not make a deal on her own. Olmert should stay the hell out of it. The whole oslo group is totally discredited by their assoiciation with olmert who is the most corrupt and worst PM in israel's history.
2. Sorry, Abbas, you don't get store credit
Jake   (10.02.08)
Olmert still doesn't understand that these guys were born in the shuq, haggling over the price of a carpet.
3. next government
colin   (10.02.08)
Abbas now wants a say in Israeli politics already implying what that the next government must implement the corrupt crooked Olmert's sick dream.Does this abbas not keep up to date??Israel has kicked the corrupt olmert out because of his leftest policy.Abbas will get nil,nothing giltch naught.
4. Damned by faint praise-Show me who your friends are, and...
Ozraeli ,   Australia   (10.02.08)
Show me who your friends are, & I'll show you who you are... With friends (and "leaders") like these, who needs enemies... The only "deposit" I would like to leave for Allmerde or Livni is a hot, steaming pile of dung on their heads - reflective of what they have inside, and my opinion of them. They are both either making extravagant, excessive, unrealistic, unsustainable declarations and position staking claims; or wordy, contradictory, meaningless announcements. Remember, these are the only 2 "PM's" in Israel's history that have been lawyers. Everyone else (I believe Begin was trained, but never practiced as one) has been a "doer" and builder of some sort. Their character and training is that "I am smarter, more clever, and more manipulative than you"; "I know better"; stubborn denial and evasiveness; shifting responsibility (Creating a ghetto by having foreign troops in Gaza and the West Bank?!); forcing, not motivating or leading; doing the quickest, easiest deal for self aggrandisation, personal benefit, and moving on to the next "action". Principles and planning is not part of their makeup-words and illusions are. When lawyers get into management, crisis is near, because they are not builders (like engineers, architects, or even generals, who have an objective, plan, and build from the bottom up), but destroyers, dividers, and manipulators, using words and meaningless paper to create illusions of action and benefits. Just look at Livni's record at the Companies Authority, the Ministry of Justice, Foreign Affairs, etc. Look at Allmerde's history as Mayor of Jerusalem, Minister of Trade, Health, Deputy PM, etc. etc., etc. A tiny country like Israel, built on faith, vision, principle, history, and the Jewish belief in striving for embodying the best characteristics of humanity (even with the imperfections, difficulties, and disappointments) needs a PM who has those characteristics, not an inveterate liar, manipulator, and wheeler dealer. Striving for excellence does not mean striving for self destruction, self immolation, or never ending capitulation, sacrifice, and surrender- if anything, it is the opposite. There are two things that float to the top: turds and cream. You are not cream. You are a long term professional politician, whose "Future is behind him" Allmerde, please go crawl back under your rock. You are an ugly, dishonest, manipulative destroyer. Shut up and quietly go away.
5. Olmert
Mohammed ,   jerusalem   (10.02.08)
FINALLY , SOMEONE SAYS THE TRUTH FROM THE JEWISH SIDE. he is right israel cant govern 270,000 Palestinians . it should give up the dream of the "complete Israel" and give back SOME of the land to the Palestinian . Thanks Olmert at least you said it.
6. Wake UP Israel!
Mark Kleiman ,   Florida, USA   (10.02.08)
Livni & Olmert are one and the same... Someone should check to see if they each have homes outside of the State of Israel... ASAP!!!
7. dar al harb prevents islam from peace with a jewish state
bezalel ,   tel aviv   (10.02.08)
we know we cannot trust abbas we know we cannot trust olmert we know the americans form foreign policy at a whim to suit their situation only trust G-d peace will come when Jews act like Jews and proudly claim their heritage, not when we trust in discredited leaders
8. Israelis will never let it happen
Ralph Levy ,   USA   (10.02.08)
The Israeli public will never allow wholesale suicidal concessions to occur. http://ralphsrant1.blogspot.com/
9. Arab initiative
ZS ,   USA   (10.02.08)
Does the arab initiative call for a right of return, or just for a "fair solution" to the Arabs who were displaced during the various Arab-Israeli wars? If it is a "fair solution", meaning mostly compensation, and part of the compensation would come from Arab countries that attacked Israel causing the displacement, and part from Israel, then I think that is a good plan. By the way, there is no such thing as a "just peace". There is negotiated peace. If you and I have a disagreement about who owns a car, we must get together and work it out between us. This is a negotiated agreement. A "just" agreement would mean that our neighbor who lives down the street must agree with the decision between you and I before it can be implemented.
10. rjhowen@sbcglobal.net
Jamie Howen ,   Lodi, United States   (10.02.08)
I cannot believe Olmert or Bush could be so shortsighted in giving "land for peace". It has never worked and never will. Do not forget how many times this has been tried and failed.
11. THE GREATEST PLAN EVER !?
steve ,   london, england   (10.02.08)
Everyone should now turn their eyes to the heavenly skies at night and watch for a star moving through space. Then wait for the marvellous and wonderous news that a woman has conceived a child without any sexual relations at all.
12. who needs enemies when you have olmert
zionist forever   (10.02.08)
Israel controls Judea & Samaria and says we must give most if not all of it to the arabs and anything we do keep must be compensated for through land in Israel. Israel controls Jerusalem and Olmert says we must divide it and even goes as far as to justify the recent terror attacks in the city because the city hasnt been divided yet. Israel controls the Golan but Olmert says we must give it to Syria. Olmert sounds like he is heading the negotiating team for the arabs telling Israel what it must give if it wants peace. Arafat was better friend to Israel than Olmert the man who belives that we are tired of being courgeous, tired of winning and tired of defeating our enemies.
13. Isnt this by any standard an act of treason?
freejay ,   Israel   (10.02.08)
14. Abbas had a little lamb(named Olmert)
Nachman ,   Uman   (10.02.08)
he locked it in the closet and when he let it out he found a little DEPOSIT
15. No ! to peace at any price.
Robert Bernier ,   Tel Aviv   (10.02.08)
To cry peace, peace, when there is no peace, as the Jewish prophet, Jeremiah, taught us long ago, is not an expression of hope but a foolish and dangerous abrogation of reality. It dulls the mind and the aspiration of a people who then become lost and blinded under a veritable veil of deception. Peace is impossible for a nation like Israel without its own demonstration of unassailable military strength and its utter rejection of concessions to an implacable enemy. The Arab world respects strength. It treats concessions with complete and utter scorn. It considers overtures of peace as a sign of weakness and becomes emboldened in its aggression. No! to concessions : http://xrl.us/biz8x
16. Until the Arabs stop inciting their
Zooog   (10.02.08)
people, peace is an illusion.
17. olmert ignored that G-d gave Israel to the Jews.
Bunnie Meyer ,   Los Angeles, CA USA   (10.02.08)
18. Really...?
Jad ,   UK   (10.02.08)
Abbas, can I remind you that Olmert is no longer a PM...? He's just a corrupt loser and his comments worth nothing. Better listen to your people and resign.
19. Steve # 11
Yerach ,   Jerusalem,Israel   (10.02.08)
Are you talking about artificial insemination or test tube babies?
20. A disgrace to those who fought in '67 & '73
Laura ,   Israel   (10.02.08)
This scurrilous, repugnant Olmert is a complete disgrace to those brave men and women who fought and died to save Israel in existential wars waged against us. His statements are particularly loathesome coming just before the anniversary of the Yom Kippur War. By law, this traitorous scrap of a human being posing as "our" PM cannot give away what is not his to give. If our legal system had any balls, it would have long ago called for his arrest for treason. There exists the death penalty for such a charge. Olmert stands on the same level ground as Eichmann. May the honor and dignity of those who fought in in all wars waged against us be remembered for posterity.
21. peace in 2 days time
elliot ,   usa   (10.02.08)
lasting 2 minutes ,two weeks, or two months--take your pick
22. Any government after Olmert
Leah ,   Israel   (10.02.08)
who wants to give Jewish land away and put 500.000 Jews out of their homes will not be in power very long. The Arabs must realize that they already have a Palestinian State and that IS Jordan with a Palestinian population of 80% of the population and occupies 78% of mandate land. Jordan IS Palestine
23. to 19
steve ,   london, england   (10.02.08)
I am talking about a 'leap of faith'. The word "miracle" comes from the Latin root "merari" = look at. Can anybody see the muslims of this region abandoning their belief in the idea that Judaism is a dead religion and that all Jews must convert to Islam? Will Judaism be abandoned in preference to Christianity? Will Hamas teach their children the text of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights? Will the League of Arab States abolish the Article in its own Arab Declaration of Human Rights which declares that "Zionism is a form of Racism"? I don't see Ehud Olmert as a miracle worker. I see that he has abandoned the hopes of Israelis for peace. He has put dialectical obstacles in the path Livni must follow. It will be difficult for her to build confidence among the members of her government now. Maybe it is time now for Israel to choose a different party to head the national government !
24. 200% true
rang   (10.02.08)
25. Olmert is hard working Arab Agent-in-chief.
val ,   eurabia   (10.02.08)
Looking on his continues hugs with Abbas, I recall similar pics from Politburo chiefs. No doubt, he is very grateful to Abbas, probably he pays more then Talanski from EU money. And who's dare to say Israeli PM is not doing the job? He just have different job descrition.
26. #23 Steve
Said ,   London, UK   (10.02.08)
Are you talking about Brian?
27. Abbas also praises terrorist attacks
Zion   (10.02.08)
28. Abbas: "...peace in two days time."
H. E. ,   Oslo, NORWAY   (10.02.08)
SURE...
29. All the Utopians including Abbas
AlbertoGa ,   St. George UT, USA   (10.02.08)
Just for the record I have seen Peres here in the USA yesterday, on a Religious Evangilical Show (TV)....The man is on Valium for sure. He was mumbling about Peace, Love with the Arabsfanatics, Shangrilalala...etc etc. A first Class Utopian about Israel future. Israel is in Danger Now my friends. The Oslo gang and now Abbas are ready to kill us all and trow us in Sea ! Never Again
30. Thank you Olmert - support Peace Now
Rabbi Maurice Harris ,   Eugene - USA   (10.03.08)
Thank you Olmert for speaking wisely. It's time for fundamentalist nationalism to stop holding Israel hostage, and for serious efforts at what it will take to bring peace to be tried. Please do the mitzvah of supporting Peace Now during these times of threat from extremeists in the Jewish community. http://www.peacenow.org/action/donate.asp
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