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Israeli generals duped into supporting Obama
The Associated Press
Published: 06.10.08, 20:29
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1. what deception and lies ?
Charles   (10.06.08)
this is the typical Obama style, who is astonished by that ?
2. LOST CREDIBILITY
David ,   Bat Yam   (10.06.08)
Israeli generals have lost all their credibility, for as soon as they hit the political stage they turn left and destroy the country. It makes me wonder if when they served in the army was it just for self glory or was it a genuine feeling of patriotism towards a Jewish state. It’s becoming clearer by the day that the former is what drives them. STOP saying the words “IT WAS TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT”; it wasn’t (listening to the tape). I’m sick a tired of hearing that from politicians got caught saying something that hurts their image. A Jewish State is used for the name only, it allows them to legitimize their desire for power, but make NO MISTAKE, they DO NOT want a JEWISH STATE, a Jewish state requires Jewish Laws (TORAH). I still can’t for the life of me figure out how you separate the two, Jewish State but not Jewish, it makes no sense. The land was given to the Jews by G-d, for keeping his laws, how do you separate the two?
3. This is what "Change" means for NObama
Zion   (10.06.08)
4. who funds Jewish Council for Education and Research?
"follow the money" ,   Deep throat!   (10.06.08)
say it aint so? How did these top security people get duped? Is it really all that easy?
5. Obama is using the Clinton play book all the way to the ...
Stewart ,   U.S.A.   (10.06.08)
White House. Sadly, ignorant Americans love to lap up the lies. They want to believe in Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy. I assure you that if Obama gets elected, we will get exactly the government we deserve!
6. Right out of Marxist playbook... why suprise??
shneerhere   (10.06.08)
7. Obama is clear as MUD
AlbertoGa ,   St. George UT, USA   (10.06.08)
Every day this guy turn white into black and black into white. No to be trusted. For a VOTE he will sell his soul to the Devil. He is for sure a direct friend of Terrorist from the US. Now it is all comming to the surface...in Red Hot details friends. See FOX news. No good for the USA and No friend and good for Israel. He is in rush to talk to all the # 1 countries that Hate the US and in particular Israel. the worse Nut is Amedin of Iran. A vote for Obama is a vote for Catastrophy Never Again
8. You mean Osama?
Tommy   (10.06.08)
9. Efraeim Halevy
Gh-Reza Amouzadeh ,   Toronto-Canada   (10.07.08)
Don't fool ourselves, and stay realistic .It goes something wrong with Mr.Efraeim Halevy
10. Obama: Good for Israel
Ted Greenfield ,   Des Plaines, USA   (10.07.08)
The Film was simply to counteract a Campaign of lies by the republicans, sent to Jewish Voters , misrepresenting Obama's Voting record and views on Isreal and Jews. His Senatorial record is the SAME as McCain's , about Israeli Concerns. The film shows that , NO he is not scary ,he is a known quantity and is good for Israel's Security. So if you do not want him for President ( Your suicide Pill) fine. But DO NOT pretend that he has ANY anti Israel views.
11. Incredibly stupid, or naive-"Swiftboating" goes both ways
Ozraeli ,   Australia   (10.07.08)
Regardless of the truth, they are either incredibly naive & trusting, incredibly stupid, or incredibly misled. No conclusion is complimentary to these 'Doyens of Defense', their foresight or political acumen (most were MK's). It is similar to Minister Vilnai talking about a 'Pal holocaust' (small 'h'), without thinking of the listener's perspective, translation, cultural nuance, or reverberating, escalating consequences in a politically manipulative, agenda driven world. I can believe a partially "off the record", wide ranging discussion; & with Israeli openness & opinionativeness, voicing (in their view) a limited professional opinion. BUT-is no one media trained? No control of editing? No awareness of cut & paste clips? No approval of final version & demanding edit protection? Were they being "Led by the tongue..."? Hard to believe. All of these gentlemen, considering their positions & experience, especially Gen. Inbar should know when not to voice personal opinions, regardless of the cross involvement of US-Israel. To a certain extent, I can understand their naivety , given the existential demands of a military or intelligence lifetime, after decades of putting their lives on the line; the standards of trustworthiness, leadership, intelligence, integrity, & discipline required, not to understand the dishonesty, manipulativeness, & willingness of people out there in the "big, wide, cold, cruel world" to mislead & cheat in order to obtain an advantage. BUT... This is similar to Westerner's inability to comprehend Indian professional beggar families cutting off a child's foot to create an object of pity, or the ease of robbing &/or murdering a foreigner in any number of places worldwide. Simply beyond their frame of reference & belief system. BUT... They appear as "useful fools", & in the clip, certainly appear unequivocal in their opinions. Wake, up, people-you're in the big leagues. BTW, talking about useful fools, tools, naivety, & stupidity - now Allmerde is trotting off to Moscow, about to hand ownership over a significant part of Jerusalem real estate (Sergei's Courtyard, in the Russian Compound) as a "gesture" (or bribe) to Putin's specious demands. A "gift" to his bestest, bestest, friend, to spur Russian help with Iran & Syria, etc. Huh?!? Completely unreported in the Hebrew press. Talk about naiveity! IMO, Obama is a polished, well spoken, empty suit. He has no core, knowledge, diplomatic, or real legislative experience. His Teflon 'vibes' are those of a Personal Success & Motivation , speaker or carnival barker/spruiker, slick like Bill Clinton, both from broken families, both wanting success, approval, fertile ground for being led. I'm sure Putin & Ahminadinajad will love his boyish enthusiasm & trust... He may have good intentions, but 3 years from 1st Senatorial election to President, backed by the Chicago Democratic machine? He is new Jimmy Carter, naively ready & waiting to be manipulated. JCER doing this shows the motivations & machinations behind a new Manchurian Candidate. Mealy mouthed platitudes of "We'll address their concerns"-after the fact. Remember Marx, Engels, Lenin, Stalin, Trotsky, Beria. Remember Hitler, Goebbels, Himmler, & Streicher. Remember who came to power during The Great Depression-it wasn't just FDR. Remember that looking for "new" saviours is typical of a period of upheaval, uncertainty, economic earthquakes, & falling living standards. Remember what extremists are willing to do to "Create a better world", on other's backs. Remember the Jewish enthusiasm to participate in this, as per the commandment of "tikkun olam" (improving the world). . Remember the Jewish enthusiasm in looking for false prophets. Lenin: "To make an omelet, you have to break eggs". Remember what happened to the Jews, when no longer useful, or they finally understood the "leaders" agendas. Funny coincidences, aren't they?
12. obamas foreign advisors anti-israel
yoni ,   jerusalem   (10.07.08)
everyone should see for themselves that obamas foreign advisors as well as his uncle like pastor who married him and his wife are anti israel. Judge him by the people who he invites to guide his decisions. Obama has an esecially alarming advisor Brzezinski who is from the carter campaign against israel among other radicals. Obama is the #1 most liberal voter of the entire senate. he has voted most left wing more times than anyone else! This man does not represent the majority of americans and does not serve the interest of israel well at all Beware!!!!!!!
13. Ted #10. Pretend? He's so naive and so pro everything anti
(10.07.08)
14. Ted,#10. We pretend? He is so naive and inexperienced he..
Stewart ,   U.S.A.   (10.07.08)
doesn't have to be anti Israel to screw things up. Also, a voting record of a few years in the Senate hardly makes a track record when compared to others who have been in Congress for many years, some for more than a decade. Besides, Obama always needed the white Christian, black Christian and Jewish vote. Once he becomes president though, he can pull another Jimmy Carter and pass it off as "peace making." Obama's experience is as a community organizer and his talent is rehtoric. He is neither a statesman nor diplomat, and he has NO military experience what so ever... not even as a civilian as a congressional committee member. After watching his flip flops and rehtorical spin including a number of out right lies, I may trust him to organize my birthday party and give a rousing toast. That's about it.
15. #10, how possibly terrorists' friend good for Israel?
AK   (10.07.08)
Obama was palling on only with Ayers but with Rashid Khalidi. He is buddy, buddy with all prominent Jew-haters and Israel-haters. Mccain may not be israel's great support, but he doesn't get contributions from Gaza and is a friend of late and unlamented Edward Said. Olmert means a disaster not only to Israel but to the US, as well. Powers, Brzezinski, Farakhan, Said, Khalid al Mansour, Khalidi --is it anti-israel enough for you?
16. Nice to know Israeli generals are easily duped
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17. Some information about McCain
Joe ,   San Jose, Ca   (10.07.08)
Some people seem very swayed by pretty tenuous connections regarding Obama. If that kind of thing disturbs you, I'd suggest doing a search on McCain and Singlaub. I'm not going to feed you talking points, I'm simply directing you in a direction to get some perspective. If you feel guilt by association is important, then you need to look at some of McCain;s associations as well.
18. Guilt by association? Obama had much more than a casual ...
Stewart ,   U.S.A.   (10.07.08)
association with Reverend Reid and Ayers. He was quite close and sympathetic to them and their ideology. YOU CAN'T SOAR WITH THE EAGLES IF YOU HANG WITH THE BUZZARDS!
19. What fools
Rod ,   Fargo N.Dakota   (10.08.08)
It's been posted on some of the largest anit Jewish forums in the U.S. the Neo Nazis are saying foreign Israeli Jews sticking their noses in U.S. politics
20. Does US public stand a chance?
mike ,   UK   (10.09.08)
If Obama's agents can pull one over former Israeli top brass...
21. Obama hates Israel and Jews
JMKC ,   Kansas City, KS, USA   (10.27.08)
http://www.peterfpaul.com/2008/10/25/the-obama-alinsky-soros-coup-de-etat-in-america/#comment-2808
22. Those who love Israel should worry about Obama's choices
Harrison Troust ,   Beverly Hills, USA   (11.02.08)
Sen. Obama's choice of foreign policy advisors, campaign aides, and friends should give pause to anyone concerned about Israel's survival, especially given the Iranian nuclear threat. Power, Brzezinski, McPeak, Bonior, Malley, Asbahi, Husaini, Wright, Khalidi, Sharpton, and Carter are all demonstrably anti-Israel. Read details at http://www.obamaknowledge.com/2008/10/the-election-and-israels-future.html
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