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Abbas: I was promised almost all of West Bank
Ali Waked
Published: 20.10.08, 13:10
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1. What did Abbas offer Olmert in return?
Sam ,   Canada   (10.20.08)
Did Abbas say to Olmert that he would have Hamas onside to any agreement? Did Abbas say he would not flood Israel with refugees? Did Abbas say he would remove arms from terror groups? How do you get Jews to support an agreement or even negotiations that just focus on what Palestinians are going to get?
2. Olmert the last Scam
Rocketman ,   East Jerusalem   (10.20.08)
Has ever a Prime Minister failed so badly? The only land that interests Olmert and his kadima leadership, is the real estate that they can make money from. Let my people vote so as to end this tragedy whose policy is to run after Saudi leaders when all else failed!!
3. The right thing to do
Shlomo The Homo ,   Tel Aviv   (10.20.08)
I srael should solve the Plastenian problem with class and honesty. I sreal also should gave up the golan and solve the syrian issue.
4. #1: It Does Not Matter What Abbas Offered
emanon ,   USA   (10.20.08)
Regardless of what words come out of Abbas' mouth, the only thing Israel will get from the terrorstinians is more terror. Remember too, Abbas is a liar: while Olmert is capable of giving the entire country away, there is no certainty any off was actually made. No, I'm not defending Olmert, just reinforcing that Abbas is a bigger liar that Olmert. Hasn't the Israeli government figure out THIS IS NOT ABOUT LAND, IT IS ABOUT THE DESTRUCTION AND DISSOLUTION OF ISRAEL! Giving away more land is suicide!
5. I Promise You Will Get No Part Of OUR Land
Yishai Kohen ,   YeShA, Israel   (10.20.08)
And that you will ultimately be sent back to your own land; Tunis.
6. Is Olmert for real???
Darrin ,   USA   (10.20.08)
An an American, i thought we had stupid people in government that should get voted out.. who is this Olmert, Israel has put in charge, to give away the Holy Land to terrorists thinking everybody will be buddies now.. unbelievable
7. promises
colin   (10.20.08)
Abbas can continue dreaming ifhe believes that the corrupt olmert promised him yehuda and shomron. There is no west bank as there is no palestinian.Both these words are only fantisies of the media.Abbas does live in Israel and must know that the crooked olmert has been kicked out,fired,and has no say in the workings of Israel
8. #5: Yishai, I heard same false promises before Gaza pullout
Gil   (10.20.08)
Where you one of those guys givng promises, "there is no disengagement"? Get in touch with reality instead of giving false promises. You Greater Israel dreams don't make some million Palestinians just dissappear and if you can't live with them then it's for you too to start living west of the fence.
9. Return the West Bank with Yishai Kohen on it
Shlomi ,   Tel Aviv   (10.20.08)
that way he can keep his promise to live on the promised land; stone age dreamers like him are unable to settle in modern Israel (proper) anyway.
10. I think Olmert offered him ANY bank
gil ,   israel   (10.20.08)
of his choosing. He just mi$understood.
11. Israel gives away Northern Televiv (2015)
Bhaskar ,   Edmonton, Canada   (10.20.08)
Israel has asked it's citizens to move from upper half of Tel Eviv as the growing Arab population needs housing. Last week, Arab population carried out massive revolts, and Israeli leadership has promised that peace will be held as whatever cost. So northern half of Jewish population will be moved from Televiv, to remote desert location!
12. Territory taken in self-defence from a defeated ...
Robert Bernier ,   Tel Aviv   (10.20.08)
Territory taken in self-defence from a defeated aggressor can be retained. A state victim of aggression is entitled to protect itself by retaining lawful possession of territory taken in self-defence from a defeated aggressor. The dismemberment of Germany after two world wars, as a protection against any repeated aggression, is a classic example of the operation of the customary law. Demands that Israel withdraw unilaterally from the whole of the Territories, and without any peace agreement, security guarantees or border adjustments, would negate the whole basis for the negotiation of a peaceful settlement with "secure and recognized boundaries" as explained at : http://xrl.us/osyi8
13. Every hill in Samaria and every valley in Judea is part ...
Robert Bernier ,   Tel Aviv   (10.20.08)
Every hill in Samaria and every valley in Judea is part of our historic homeland.! The Land of Israel is ours by Historical and Moral right and in 1920 the world recognized our undeniable national rights to this land. It is ours by the historic right of the people of Israel to the entire Land of Israel. The Jews have the right to build and live freely in their country. Every hill in Samaria and every valley in Judea is part of our historic homeland. We do not forget this, not even for one moment as explained at : http://xrl.us/bi9g8
14. Olmert's offer is meaningless
Brod ,   USA   (10.20.08)
If Abbas thinks Olmert is god of Israel then he is mistaken. Olmert's offer is meaningless. Olmert does not own the Land of Israel. And he cannot simply offer and give away Israel's liberated biblical and historic homeland to anyone especially its enemies as if Israel is his private property. In other countries, any leader who does this will be charged with treason and jailed for life or end up in front of a firing squad. What makes Olmert think that he has the power to give away Israel's land?
15. lol @ #11 and good comment #1.
nate ,   canada   (10.20.08)
...too bad nobody asks anything of the fakestinians.
16. Ayatollah's man in the Knesset at it again
Dr. Dave ,   NYC   (10.20.08)
One last shot to give his overlords in Tehran what they crave.
17. Hey! Abbi, baby!!
Sheikh yer Bu'Tay   (10.20.08)
Did you get all that in writing? Is Olmert the unconditional king of Jerusalem, who can make such important decisions all by himself? Nah, I didn't think so. This is just another pretext to another war to ultimately win what you really want.
18. OLMERT SHOULD BE JAILED FOR THAT
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19. inappropiate
Michael   (10.20.08)
PM olmert, We all know you opinions. In Democracy, everyone is entitled yo his or her opinion. however, an opinion is not a fact and it isn't always intelligent. Olmert's personal opinion is aclassic example. How many times do we have to hear this insanity. For someone who claims he wants to reach a peace agreement your making the possibility of peace further away with these ridiculous theoretical scenarios. I think Olmert should give his houses away to Abbas as a good will gesture.
20. Bridge
Elianah ,   Ramat HaSharon   (10.20.08)
If Abbas thinks that Olmert can deliver (especially given that he's effecitvely out ANYWAY and his political successor seems to be incapable of mustering enough support for a government), then I have a bridge for sale. Also, 92% or whatever the last offer was would also count as "almost all of" the West Bank. Why is this news?
21. Corrupt olmert says "real land for fake peace."
Bunnie Meyer ,   Los Angeles, CA USA   (10.20.08)
22. What olmert meant by "almost all"
Arie ,   BaGolan   (10.20.08)
Olmert's version of "almost all" was "almost all" of Israel up to the beaches of Tel Aviv; "almost all" of Jerusalem up to the western gates; "almost all" of the Negev up to the Western part of Ashqelon. "Almost all!"
23. Real Peace - Real Solution
Larry Finklestein ,   Boston, Mass USA   (10.20.08)
Israel can and must cede sovereignty over most of the West Bank and Gaza- It is pointless to try and hold on to these areas, which will never be comfortable places for Israelis to live or work. With Peace, there are two benefits- 1- Israel's demographics are preserved 2-Israel can trade with Palestinian neighbors and coordinate on resources, without fear of violence. Olmert and the new administration will want to create a Palestine in the West Bank first, and Gaza later, with borders adjusted to include new Israeli living areas traded for equal unused space elsewhere. A sovereign Palestine may face a few restrictictions, such as a limited military and joint Israeli control on borders, but should otherwise be able to operate with relative people and goods movement within the two countries. Even assigning Arab Jerusalem to Palestine, simply confirms the reality on the ground. Why bother governing an area in perpetual rebellion, with zero economic benefits and tremendous burdens in resources and people? The alternative, unthinkable, would be to expel all Palestinians from WB and GZ.. Otherwise, sooner or later, they will outvote and dominante Israel proper.
24. The Land is, Israel Land, Dear Olmert !
AlbertoGa ,   St. George UT, USA   (10.20.08)
This guy is in no place to make deals with Terrorist Org. Hamas and Fatah are one and the same Muslim Org. They wish only one thing... The total Destruction of Israel. Gaza was a very, very bad deal. One mistake that will be hard to fix. Olmert, Perez, and Livni all left wing Utopians Basta la Musica.
25. The Iranian problem identified.
David ,   USA   (10.20.08)
Would someone please tell Ephraim Sneh that the problem with stopping the Iranian threat can be found in the facts of this article and not in America's generosity in our military aid to Israel. The man wants to bite the hand that feeds him while kissing the rear end of the likes of Olmert who caused the mess that Israel is in. Why don't Sneh do something about the internal problems of the Israeli government instead of pointing the finger of blame at the US?
26. to #5 Yishai Kohen
Shlomo the Homo ,   Tel Aviv   (10.20.08)
Do you remember what happen in Gush Katif ? You say the same thing "No one will take our land" It is in the plastenian hand now, Sinai before that and south Lebanon in between. Can you see the pattern here? do you want to make a bet on it ? Here is my bet 2010 west bank and East Jersulem to the Plastenian, 2012 the Golan hight to the Syrian.
27. To Robert Bernier
Sholom The Homo ,   Tel Aviv   (10.20.08)
Keep dreaming while the Israeli politcians are dealing with the arab and the rest of the world. One day you will wake up to a new smallar Israel and may be safer and happier Israel. Get used to it or get the hell out.
28. Arabs have no claim to the Jewish homeland!
Palestiniansareamyth ,   USA   (10.20.08)
The only claim the Fakestinians have is to Arabia where they're from!
29. There are already enough Palestininas in Israel
Boris   (10.20.08)
So end end the stupid occupation and get out of West Bank and East Jerusalem. We cannot oppress and discriminate another people forever; it also didn't work in South Africa. It's time to use the Separation Wall for it's real purpose.
30. Olmert made promises he cannot keep.
Vicky ,   Ashkelon Israel   (10.20.08)
It is not his place to make them without the consent of the Israeli Nation. We were promised peace for Gazza, we still don't have it. Grow up Assad, we aint that thick (Well most of us are not anyway!!!!!)
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