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'Jewish banks masterminded crisis'
Yonit Mozes
Published: 21.10.08, 20:26
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61. #36 Yerushalaimi
David ,   USA   (10.22.08)
That is a very dangerous suggestion. Jacob when facing Esav knew to divide his family to be sure some were preserved if Esav attacked. If all Jews were in the tiny Nation of Israel then it would only take one nuke to wipe them out. The Jewish people are much better off scattered in times like we are living in today. Then they are sure to be preserved. Jews need to be strongly united, just not in the same physical location. Unfortunately, they are divided today between secular, religious, Orthodox, Conservative, Reformed, Zionist, anti Zionist, Nut-ra Carta (Or what ever they call themselves), self haters like Olmert and gang. The list goes on.
62. more power to them.
David ,   USA   (10.22.08)
Let's assume it is true. Not that I think it is mind you, but assuming that it is, who can blame the Jews. The entire World is anti-semitic. It is true that there are people throughout the world who love the Jews but for the most part, the powers that be are afraid of the Jews. Why, beats me, but it is true none the less. If Israel is able to pull it off then more power to them. It is called self preservation. Control the wealth and you control the world. But, who would start such a rumor as this? Let's see now, who stands to benefit if Israel suffers? Who REALLY has the wealth right now? It seems that wars are being fought over oil. Who has the oil? I believe it is the enemies of Israel. The same enemies they have had for thousands of years. Who ran the oil prices to 145 dollars a barrel? I believe this was the main cause of the current financial crisis. So, lets put the blame where it really belongs, but, if I am wrong and the Jews did it, then I say YOU GO JEWS! GREAT JOB!
63. Jewish Bankers
Moe Sadd ,   Detroit, MI   (10.22.08)
Just follow the money -- ironic, isn't it that as the international financial world collapses all around us -- Israel markets are booming? #29 comments makes the most sense... The Federal Reserve: History of Lies, Thievery and Deceit. http://www.scionofzion.com/federalreserve.htm Quote from H. L. Birum, Sr. "The Federal Reserve Bank is nothing but a banking fraud and an unlawful crime against civilization. Why? Because they "create" the money made out of nothing, and our Uncle Sap Government issues their "Federal Reserve Notes" and stamps our Government approval with NO obligation whatever from these Federal Reserve Banks, Individual Banks or National Banks, etc." In the end, it will be obvious to all that WTP have once again been "greenscammed" by the House of Rothschild vis a vis The Fed. Has anyone ever wondered why the 13 Stars on the US note is in the shape of the Star of David? The facts clearly speak for themselves....
64. Some also blame Vatican, Monarchy
George Hayduke ,   Nashville, USA   (10.22.08)
Just to ensure that other views are represented, there exists groups of theorists who blame the Vatican for everything while others blame the Brit Crown for everything, while others blame the Russians. Meanwhile others blame the international Nazi movement for everything bad that happens. This should answer the question of who would be blamed were the Jews not around? There are numerous players! Should the Rothschild family financial and banking empire receive some of the blame for the human condition? You bet. Should the Vatican? Of course. What these entities, from the Crown to Rusky Oligarchs all have in common is they are all elites. They are the slavers, the haves, the bosses and they are pitted against the slaves, the have-nots, and the workers. But perhaps this is too simple of an explanation?
65. #54 the churlish punk
Tahl ,   Israel   (10.22.08)
Actually I'm quite flattered that a Jew-hating turd like you got so upset by my post, to post such a rabid response as you did - it only means I was able to fully expose your Jew-hatred as something quite ridiculous and absurd. Tell me, where exactly in my post have you seen any "kneejerk reaction is to quickly cry Antisemite at every little thing"? Actually it is nowhere to be seen. I never "cried antisemite" at anyone, I only explained why the antisemites (or anti-Zionists, or Jew-haters) have such silly and unfounded claims. That must've really ticked you off now didn't it? And where exactly in my post, have you interpreted "what I really think of Christians"? Again nowhere. I actually respect every man of every religion, who is not brainwashed by hateful ideas. And so do almost all Jews. You, on the other hand, in every sentence you wrote (especially "Talmud-reading Zionist pukes" - that was my favorite), exposed your rabid Jew-hatred, not to mention your stupidity. Once again, I'm flattered that I manged to anger such a churlish crock like you.
66. So, Moe, #63, amusing link. Not only do you have not even
Roman ,   Lod, Israel   (10.22.08)
the slightest idea of the evolution of the modern currencies and international banking. Look toward China for paper money issued and backed by the state, Muslim lands from 7th to 12th century for credit-based transactions, savings accounts, and major institutions, and the Order of Knights Templar for the equivalent evolution of banking in Europe. Also, it's quite amusing that you attack central banking - it was a required evolution as currencies became more centralized, and paper money became the norm. Central banking made sure that the dangers of inflation, introduced with paper currency, were greatly curbed - and the benefits of it kept. In any case, that isn't the main premise of your link, is it? The main premise is an anti-Jewish rant about Jews and Money. Well, the two names your link mentioned are quite amusing, seeing as how that period didn't have *surnames*! Surnames are a very recent innovation, only having started reaching widespread use in the West and Near East during the 14th century. So those two Jews of Babylon supposedly being the First Loansharks have... interesting names, to say the least. Maybe they're time travelers! The rest is little better, with pseudo-history mixed in with outright lies to create a picture of a Great Jewish Money-Grubbing Conspiracy. Damn, the works really *are* coming out of the woodwork, aren't they? I mean, nevermind the fact that the US had central banks since the late 18th century, and a national banking system since 1863. Oh, and the member banks of the Fed? A tad more than 10 of 'em. More like thousands. Maybe your hock-article confused it with Federal Reserve Banks - 12 of 'em, based in the major states and divided into supervising regions of the US - all of them *Federal* banks to the core rather than private-owned. The *private-owned* banks in the system are the member banks: http://www2.fdic.gov/idasp/main.asp Here, give it a try. Just use the "Find All - Institutions" button, and weed out the banks merely insured by the Fed to get the full members. You amuse me, honestly. I truly loved the Rothschild/Illuminati/World Domination conspiracy theory - classic stuff there.
67. #55
BD ,   U.S.   (10.22.08)
#57 was to you.....oops
68. #40
(10.22.08)
since YOU brought the accusation against jews, then YOU are responsible to prove YOUR claim. in a court of law, when an accusation is brought about by someone, their lawyer MUST prove that this accused person is in fact guilty. so, proof of this imbecilic accusation falls on YOU, not on the accused...the jews.
69. #63
(10.22.08)
the american flag star has 5 points. the jewish star of david has 6 points. when the american flag was created, israel was not a reality yet. so why connect the two? unless, an anti semite like you would love to grasp at straws to blame the jooooooos! get off it, you miserable scum, and admitt that your drivel is a shame and a pity for us intelligent human beings on earth.
70. #35, You don't know the banking system
Rich ,   Toronto, Canada   (10.22.08)
The Federal Reserve is a private bank set up by the Rothschilds to control the money supply of the United States. They control all of the banks in the US. The policies of Alan Greenspan, with investment money coming from abroad, encouraged the banks to lend money with no collateral and no credit check. This was done intentionally. the policies of Alan Greenspan, Ben Bernanke and the Rothschilds have destroyed the American economy. They are traitors and criminals, and they need to be arrested. The entire international banking system is a fraud.
71. @ #41 Anti Semites make Zionists
Mannstein ,   USA   (10.22.08)
Actually it's the other way around.
72. @ #48
mannstein ,   USA   (10.22.08)
Good ideas can't be killed.
73. Special
Mannstein ,   USA   (10.22.08)
Those who would demand special treatment should not be surprised if they receive Sonderbehandlung.
74. #70, another member of the Dreamland Crowd, eh?
Roman ,   Lod, Israel   (10.22.08)
Oh, open a bloody history book, already...
75. #73, Jews never demanded special treatment - merely equality
Roman ,   Lod, Israel   (10.22.08)
Something that many didn't really want to accept, focusing instead on rehashing the hate-myths of old. Just like you do.
76. #62
BD ,   U.S.   (10.22.08)
Anyone who condones murder and theft, regardless of race, class, sex deserves the same wraith!! You cannot justify what these evil men are doing without making yourself look bad... just remember there is always a smaller minority, you can't always play the victim. You are also missing the difference that most people are making between Jews and Zionist.... A great Jewish man explained it best It is my conviction that killing under the cloak of war is nothing but an act of murder. Albert Einstein
77. #72, #76
Tahl ,   Israel   (10.23.08)
#72 - Gosh, looks like this article has got all the smelly rats and nutjobs creeping out of their holes... Frankly I'm surprised Ynet let this disgusting TB to be posted. You really oughta get together with Chucky there at #54, I can't wait to see what a fine couple you two would make! #76 - David's actually got a good and beautiful point there, so in my opinion you don't need to correct him on anything. I couldn't quite follow what you were trying to say to him (you were kind of hard to follow), but I don't think he justified these evil and hateful people, but rather the Jews! So don't you think he should be congratulated for giving these silly libels, the twist they deserve? Everyone should know the truth about who REALLY has the wealth and controls the world's economy by means of the owning the most imporant energy resource.
78. List their faults
jedberten ,   USA   (10.23.08)
So if they are completely innocent of this, then maybe some knowledgeable individual can list half a dozen things they ARE guilty of. With thousands of years of history there must be something. White Christians are criticized daily for one thing or another.
79. #71-73
Cynthia ,   USA   (10.23.08)
Zionism is a movement to create a Jewish homeland. You need not be threatened or jealous of that. It's not your business and no one is asking your permission. You could be successful just like many Jewish people without being anti-semitic which has its foundation in ignorance and hate. Anti-semitism existed long before Zionism.
80. #77
BD ,   U.S.   (10.23.08)
The point I'm trying to make, is that everybody is wrong, because everybody thinks they are right! If you understand what a paradox is, realize that we live inside one. .....and before all the worlds prejudices and twisted historical facts, that lend themselves to truth with-in themselves, but evade the bigger picture.. there was peace! One of my greatest mentors is a Jewish man. Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are even incapable of forming such opinions. Albert Einstein We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them. Albert Einstein Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen. Albert Einstein
81. the only answer ...
ragged soul   (10.23.08)
the only answer, of course, is to let the criticisms fly, allow the studies to commence, permit the analyses to conclude. Eventually, the truth will arise. If the jews are not responsible, this will be shown to be the case. Nevertheless, blocking, deriding or influencing any of these events and processes will only add to the percieved anti-semitism. And let's face it, you do not need any more of that.
82. #78
BD ,   U.S.   (10.23.08)
I think most people will agree, that the root of this 'crisis' has alot to do with the Instability of the U.S. economy at the moment. It's instability is rippling like a stone to the rest of the world... who is weaved into it's structure. If i were to blame one person for this..... it would be none other than jewish zionist.... Paul Warburg was instrumental in creating the treasonous "Federal Reserve act" of 1913. which set the stage for him and his agenda, which was... Creating false boom and bust waves, that him and his band of tycoons could easily predict(because they created the system) and ride to an Empirical end.... MOST people know very little about how the "central banks" truly operate. By controlling the interest rates, and inflation/deflation, they are ALWAYS, and i would like stress ALWAYS at the crest of the wave..... If we truly want to solve the problems, and stop playing the racial blame games. We would have to listen to Ron Paul, and get back to real FREE MARKET economics... until then, we go down, we go up, we go down.... and the ones Thomas Jefferson explains this to us. http://etext.virginia.edu/jefferson/quotations/jeff1325.htm
83. A monument to the next holocaust.
Desirie ,   tokyo   (10.23.08)
I found this in my studies, and find it's insinuations frightening. There are ten commandments on this giant stone artifice, and the creator 'R.C. Christian' is alarming! Even more alarming is the first commandment itself. WAKE UP PEOPLE! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Guidestones
84. Jewish Banks Masterminded Crisis
ronilevy ,   Denver USA   (10.23.08)
Of course, this whole idea is absurd...IMHO, an Irish cartel is behind the 'meltdown'...Just look at the names involved: O'Bernanke, O'Paulson, O'Greenspan, O'Kravis and so on...And this is the tip of the iceberg!...And, worth mentioning, is the disappearance of $3 TRILLION from the Pentagon budget when the Irishman, O'Zakheim, was signing the checks...I will call Abe Foxman tody!
85. #79
chucky ,   Olney, MD USA   (10.23.08)
You are a pompous ass. It is everyone's business when Zionism threatens world peace. "Antisemitism existed long before Zionism" According to who, you? Maybe so, but Zionism has exacerbated the problems in the MiddleEast. No one can excuse Israel's behavior, except maybe the blind, oh, and you.
86. Economic ignorance
Sam the ECONOMIST ,   NYC, USA   (10.23.08)
This article fails to give credit to the thousands of Jews in the financial industry that have been screaming about the need for regulation and reform for years. The situation we find ourselves in today is the product of a dumbed down population. I have suffered anti-semitic slurs my entire life and I'm not Jewish!!! Everybody hates Jews but they want to live near them. Like my brother the plumber says" I don't know why people think Jews are cheap" They're the only ones that pay me. If Jews did not invent all plumbing products we enjoy today most people would be defacating in their Hummers and other trinkets people confuse with wealth.
87. #85 Chucky
Cynthia ,   USA   (10.24.08)
According to recorded history, antisemitism existed long before Zionism. Out of curiosity Chucky, what is your definition of Zionism, when did this movement begin and what was its purpose? Exactly how does Zionism threaten world peace or exacerbate problems in the ME? Please give specific examples. Does Christian Zionism also threaten world peace? If there was no Israel, would there be peace in the world? Let's see how smart you are Chucky.
88. Bernake isn't Jewish?
Bob   (10.24.08)
Greenspan isn't Jewish? You are a LIAR, which is TYPICAL!
89. #87 reply
chucky ,   Olney, MD USA   (10.24.08)
Well, since you asked, my reading on the subject seems to indicate that the philosophy was first coined by Herzl in the late 1800's, and furthered by the Balfour Declaration in 1918. Whether or not it was as rabid an idea as some suggest is the subject of much debate. Some say that it promotes Israeli expansion at the expense of all others. That seems to be supported by the illegal settlements, and the sheer size of Israel today versus the 1948 map of the country. Your question to me on Zionism (current Israeli behavior) exacerbating the current problems in the ME? If you really need to ask that you're a retard. What, do you believe they (FOLLOWERS OF iSLAM) hate us for our freedoms? That kool aid is stale and rotten. Christian Zionism a threat? Your damn right it's a threat. It's ill informed, based on a fairy tale. You probably also believe that we have armed forces in the ME for some noble cause. Israel and oil are the only reasons we're there, and we didn't even get the oil. Now Israel wants to take on Iran, but they'd rather have us do it for them. Yet another war for a country that has done absolutely NOTHING for the U.S. If you want to understand why Zionist Christians have a misplaced trust and belief system, read Hoffman's Judaism Discovered, an interesting take on the Talmud, among other things. Others here will call that book Antisemitic. Get over yourselves, it just a different perspective. The truth usually lies somewhere between two extremes. Last, your question regarding Israel's existence and world peace? Why don't you simply ask me how many agels can dance on the head of a pin? A better question would have been, "Does U.S. support for Israel all but guarantee Armegeddon by 2012? Possibly. Perhaps we'll be too broke to participate. Christian Zionists have a death wish, and they'll likely have the wish granted. As for me, I'm putting on my pastor Hagee shirt, and going to the local bar for a few beers. If that's not smart enough for you, there's more where that came from. Stay home from church, read some real factual information about the subject. Most important , remove your head from your butt.
90. #20
Scott ,   USA   (10.24.08)
Anti-zionism is just a euphemism for anti-semitism, which is itself a euphemism for Jew hatred.
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